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LOL@that.I saw a young college kid in a 1/2 NL game one time, kept raising to $6. He also is the type of player that if someone raised to like $10, hed push for like his whole stack. Anyways, he went bust like 3 times for $200 and I was talking to him later at the bar, and I swear, this was an exact quote.me - "sucks man, you played good today, just this 1/2 game is crazy in terms of people calling preflop, you gotta learn more postflop play if you wanna beat this game."him - "yeah, all the forums and books say that its all about postflop play, but they're full of ****. Everyone knows NL is about ALL IN. That's why everyone really plays no limit, so they can go allin. Thats why i only raise to $6 preflop. I want someone to reraise me, so I can go ALL IN just like on TV".He bought another drink, I convinced him to play again, and we sat down, and I busted him the 3rd hand with my AA versus J3.Lolers
He's right. Clearly you haven't seen high stakes WPT final table poker.
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i think i saw some of the worst play ever in a 11$ razz tourney on FTP last night. 44 entrants, i got about 20th because of a guy calling me down when i had (a3) 25 after fourth, and he had (xx) 82.. asif he didnt believe me. i obviously got J,K,J to finsih out and he called a river bet with a 9 low..anywaysheres the hand i was actually lol'ing at:me (24) 8610Q (J)him (xx) 10 8 9 9 (x)i had raised him on the 4th street and he called. i ledout 5th and 6th knowing i had the best hand because of his board. 7th street, i lead out, he raises, i reraise and hec aps it.i call, and type lol in the window because there was no way i was beat based on his board.him: OMG HOW DO YOU CALL A RAISE WITH A TEN SIX LOWme: well, the best hand you could have based on your board was a 10-8 low so i knew i couldnt losehim (observer): OMG YOU ARE SO BAD YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS GAMEme: i guess not, thats whyi just school you for your whole stacki love razz. and i hate razz.

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i think i saw some of the worst play ever in a 11$ razz tourney on FTP last night. 44 entrants, i got about 20th because of a guy calling me down when i had (a3) 25 after fourth, and he had (xx) 82.. asif he didnt believe me. i obviously got J,K,J to finsih out and he called a river bet with a 9 low..anywaysheres the hand i was actually lol'ing at:me (24) 8610Q (J)him (xx) 10 8 9 9 (x)i had raised him on the 4th street and he called. i ledout 5th and 6th knowing i had the best hand because of his board. 7th street, i lead out, he raises, i reraise and hec aps it.i call, and type lol in the window because there was no way i was beat based on his board.him: OMG HOW DO YOU CALL A RAISE WITH A TEN SIX LOWme: well, the best hand you could have based on your board was a 10-8 low so i knew i couldnt losehim (observer): OMG YOU ARE SO BAD YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS GAMEme: i guess not, thats whyi just school you for your whole stacki love razz. and i hate razz.
wrong. he could have had 98 on 7th. 98xxx if all of the x are 7 or better.
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i think i saw some of the worst play ever in a 11$ razz tourney on FTP last night. 44 entrants, i got about 20th because of a guy calling me down when i had (a3) 25 after fourth, and he had (xx) 82.. asif he didnt believe me. i obviously got J,K,J to finsih out and he called a river bet with a 9 low..anywaysheres the hand i was actually lol'ing at:me (24) 8610Q (J)him (xx) 10 8 9 9 (x)i had raised him on the 4th street and he called. i ledout 5th and 6th knowing i had the best hand because of his board. 7th street, i lead out, he raises, i reraise and hec aps it.i call, and type lol in the window because there was no way i was beat based on his board.him: OMG HOW DO YOU CALL A RAISE WITH A TEN SIX LOWme: well, the best hand you could have based on your board was a 10-8 low so i knew i couldnt losehim (observer): OMG YOU ARE SO BAD YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS GAMEme: i guess not, thats whyi just school you for your whole stacki love razz. and i hate razz.
You are wrong, he is right. If he had three cards below an 8 unpaired, he had you beat.
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I know this is kinda weird for a first post but I had to put this up. I'm still not sure what he is trying to say here.PokerStars Game #6874111952: Tournament #35042557, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/11/29 - 01:49:30 (ET)Table '35042557 12' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: merevari (3040 in chips) Seat 2: d lozer (3130 in chips) Seat 3: bill0706 (1420 in chips) Seat 4: cacanose (615 in chips) Seat 5: maple152 (1615 in chips) Seat 6: Trione (1200 in chips) Seat 7: tangelo9 (2040 in chips) Seat 8: Xena625 (960 in chips) Seat 9: danrobison1 (1160 in chips) tangelo9: posts small blind 15Xena625: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to bill0706 [Tc Ts]danrobison1: calls 30merevari: folds d lozer: folds bill0706: raises 90 to 120cacanose: folds maple152: folds Trione: folds tangelo9: folds Xena625: folds danrobison1: calls 90*** FLOP *** [2s 4c 8s]danrobison1: checks bill0706: bets 150danrobison1: raises 150 to 300bill0706: raises 1000 to 1300 and is all-indanrobison1: calls 740 and is all-in*** TURN *** [2s 4c 8s] [8h]*** RIVER *** [2s 4c 8s 8h] [Ks]*** SHOW DOWN ***danrobison1: shows [4s 8c] (a full house, Eights full of Fours)bill0706: shows [Tc Ts] (two pair, Tens and Eights)bill0706 said, "what a moron"danrobison1 collected 2365 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 2365 | Rake 0 Board [2s 4c 8s 8h Ks]Seat 1: merevari folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: d lozer folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: bill0706 showed [Tc Ts] and lost with two pair, Tens and EightsSeat 4: cacanose folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: maple152 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: Trione (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: tangelo9 (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: Xena625 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: danrobison1 showed [4s 8c] and won (2365) with a full house, Eights full of FoursAfter the hand he saysdanrobison1: because when people have high cards or a high pairand they dont raise that much i like to see the flopdanrobison1: if its low cards or if you hit normally the low cards have a better handdanrobison1: whats position mean?

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i think i saw some of the worst play ever in a 11$ razz tourney on FTP last night. 44 entrants, i got about 20th because of a guy calling me down when i had (a3) 25 after fourth, and he had (xx) 82.. asif he didnt believe me. i obviously got J,K,J to finsih out and he called a river bet with a 9 low..anywaysheres the hand i was actually lol'ing at:me (24) 8610Q (J)him (xx) 10 8 9 9 (x)i had raised him on the 4th street and he called. i ledout 5th and 6th knowing i had the best hand because of his board. 7th street, i lead out, he raises, i reraise and hec aps it.i call, and type lol in the window because there was no way i was beat based on his board.him: OMG HOW DO YOU CALL A RAISE WITH A TEN SIX LOWme: well, the best hand you could have based on your board was a 10-8 low so i knew i couldnt losehim (observer): OMG YOU ARE SO BAD YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS GAMEme: i guess not, thats whyi just school you for your whole stacki love razz. and i hate razz.
what's your ftp sn?
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i think i saw some of the worst play ever in a 11$ razz tourney on FTP last night. 44 entrants, i got about 20th because of a guy calling me down when i had (a3) 25 after fourth, and he had (xx) 82.. asif he didnt believe me. i obviously got J,K,J to finsih out and he called a river bet with a 9 low..anywaysheres the hand i was actually lol'ing at:me (24) 8610Q (J)him (34) 10 8 9 9 (6)i had raised him on the 4th street and he called. i ledout 5th and 6th knowing i had the best hand because of his board. 7th street, i lead out, he raises, i reraise and hec aps it.i call, and type lol in the window because there was no way i was beat based on his board.him: OMG HOW DO YOU CALL A RAISE WITH A TEN SIX LOWme: well, the best hand you could have based on your board was a 10-8 low so i knew i couldnt losehim (observer): OMG YOU ARE SO BAD YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS GAMEme: i guess not, thats whyi just school you for your whole stacki love razz. and i hate razz.
T8642 does not beat 98643
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But the best comeback line I've ever enjoyed is when someone said back to another player who was complaining "shhhhh Im counting your chips"
I like to say: "I can't hear you over my chipstack." But I think this is a better line.
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Blind vs. Blind to the flop, no raisesFlop is K83 rainbowSB bets 100(pot sized bet) BB pushes for 700, SB callsSB shows 98, BB shows KQ, KQ holdsSB(after the hand) "I thought he was on a draw"

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wrong. he could have had 98 on 7th. 98xxx if all of the x are 7 or better.
ding ding ding
You are wrong, he is right. If he had three cards below an 8 unpaired, he had you beat.
again...ding ding ding
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$10 NLDealt to trystero [Qs Qd]good_ish calls $0.10Jaminoune foldsBigDeal1842 foldstrystero raises to $0.40Bruno_20 foldschuck7611 foldscraze-nate calls $0.40D3De foldsdbwrenn foldsgood_ish calls $0.30*** FLOP *** [7c 5s 3d]good_ish checkstrystero bets $0.80craze-nate calls $0.80good_ish folds*** TURN *** [7c 5s 3d] [Ts]trystero checkscraze-nate bets $1.95trystero raises to $6.95, and is all incraze-nate has 15 seconds left to actcraze-nate: u have AKcraze-nate calls $2.65, and is all intrystero shows [Qs Qd]craze-nate shows [Ad 2d]Uncalled bet of $2.35 returned to trystero*** RIVER *** [7c 5s 3d Ts] [Kh]trystero shows a pair of Queenscraze-nate shows Ace King hightrystero wins the pot ($10.95) with a pair of QueensJaminoune: nhcraze-nate is sitting outyes, I have AK. And I am still crushing A2.

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guy calls a raise from MP in the BB with 52o, flop comes A34, raiser had AQ, BB wins a large potKevinJA8: keep callin raises with 52drunkvike: i will if the moment calls for it

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"OMG! I trap him perfectly with queens only for him to suckout"he is how he 'trapped me'PokerStars Game #7377976468: Tournament #37732295, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level III (50/100) - 2006/12/10 - 01:24:29 (ET)Table '37732295 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: KevinJA8 (5180 in chips) Seat 2: diprivan (820 in chips) KevinJA8: posts small blind 50diprivan: posts big blind 100*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to KevinJA8 [2d Ks]KevinJA8: raises 4500 to 4600diprivan: calls 720 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [4c Kc 5d]*** TURN *** [4c Kc 5d] [8d]*** RIVER *** [4c Kc 5d 8d] [6c]*** SHOW DOWN ***diprivan: shows [Qd Qc] (a pair of Queens)KevinJA8: shows [2d Ks] (a pair of Kings)KevinJA8 collected 2640 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 2640 | Rake 0 Board [4c Kc 5d 8d 6c]Seat 1: KevinJA8 (button) (small blind) showed [2d Ks] and won (2640) with a pair of KingsSeat 2: diprivan (big blind) showed [Qd Qc] and lost with a pair of Queenshe also called me a calling station because there were 5 or 6 hands like thisPokerStars Game #7377905893: Tournament #37732295, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level II (30/60) - 2006/12/10 - 01:18:15 (ET)Table '37732295 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: KevinJA8 (4040 in chips) Seat 2: diprivan (1960 in chips) diprivan: posts small blind 30KevinJA8: posts big blind 60*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to KevinJA8 [As 4h]diprivan: raises 60 to 120KevinJA8: calls 60*** FLOP *** [2c 5h 2s]KevinJA8: checks diprivan: checks *** TURN *** [2c 5h 2s] [8c]KevinJA8: checks diprivan: checks *** RIVER *** [2c 5h 2s 8c] [Qs]KevinJA8: checks diprivan: bets 120KevinJA8: calls 120*** SHOW DOWN ***diprivan: shows [Kh Jh] (a pair of Deuces)KevinJA8: shows [As 4h] (a pair of Deuces - Ace kicker)KevinJA8 collected 480 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 480 | Rake 0 Board [2c 5h 2s 8c Qs]Seat 1: KevinJA8 (big blind) showed [As 4h] and won (480) with a pair of DeucesSeat 2: diprivan (button) (small blind) showed [Kh Jh] and lost with a pair of Deucesafter it goes check, check, check, check, check, bet....im suppose to give him credit for a hand

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Tourny on Doyle's room 200+ players down to 35ishbubble is 27 I have M of about 5 I thinkcut off I have KK raise 3.5 x bb which is 1/4 my stackplayer that has me covered calls ( fairly tight play going on)flop A rag ragvillian bets half my stackI muck, tell him I had KKnext hand all in with 44 get called by 10 10 in BBI ask villian if he had an ace last handHe says: I don't remember. :club:

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Haha, I didn't visit the FCP forum for three months, but I knew this thread would still be alive. :club: Obligatory fish-quote (although a rather lame one - sorry, I haven't played much poker lately): 4 left in a single table tournament on pokerstars, I have about 6500 chips and the other players let me beat them up pretty good, just wanting to survive - I have been raising almost every time preflop and betting/raising most of the time on the flop.I'm in small blind, folded to me, I have J5 raise to 3xBB, big blind calls - flop is Q 8 3, I bet half the pot, BB calls, turn is another blank and I bet again, BB folds.BB: "folded KK, knew you had trips"Me: "great read, well played"

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PokerStars Game #7521350542: Tournament #38436962, $10+$1 Omaha Pot Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/20 - 00:29:35 (ET)Table '38436962 6' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 2: PPfinest (16220 in chips) Seat 3: XCappucinoX1 (7095 in chips) Seat 4: yeah_cmon (10923 in chips) Seat 5: dunewood (3275 in chips) Seat 6: kingal26 (4349 in chips) Seat 7: 1001001 (4625 in chips) Seat 8: GoldSnake80 (20207 in chips) Seat 9: TimWakefield (5451 in chips) TimWakefield: posts small blind 75PPfinest: posts big blind 150*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to TimWakefield [Ac As Ks 8h]XCappucinoX1: folds yeah_cmon: folds dunewood: folds kingal26: folds 1001001: folds GoldSnake80: folds TimWakefield: raises 300 to 450PPfinest: calls 300*** FLOP *** [4s Ah Qc]TimWakefield: bets 600PPfinest: raises 1200 to 1800TimWakefield: raises 3201 to 5001 and is all-inPPfinest: calls 3201*** TURN *** [4s Ah Qc] [5s]*** RIVER *** [4s Ah Qc 5s] [Th]*** SHOW DOWN ***TimWakefield: shows [Ac As Ks 8h] (three of a kind, Aces)PPfinest: shows [Tc 6d Ad 4c] (two pair, Aces and Tens)TimWakefield collected 10902 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 10902 | Rake 0 Board [4s Ah Qc 5s Th]Seat 2: PPfinest (big blind) showed [Tc 6d Ad 4c] and lost with two pair, Aces and TensSeat 3: XCappucinoX1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: yeah_cmon folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: dunewood folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: kingal26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: 1001001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: GoldSnake80 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: TimWakefield (small blind) showed [Ac As Ks 8h] and won (10902) with three of a kind, AcesPPfinest: of courseAs though there's no way he could have laid down top + bottom pair in Omaha to a re-raise :club:

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After this hand:PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)SB (t3025)BB (t3595)UTG (t2350)Hero (t2910)Button (t1620)Preflop: Hero is MP with Theart.gif, Kheart.gif. UTG calls t50, Hero calls t50, 2 folds, BB checks.Flop: (t175) 9heart.gif, 2heart.gif, 4spade.gif(3 players)BB bets t100, UTG raises to t300, Hero calls t300, BB folds.Turn: (t875) 3club.gif(2 players)UTG bets t200, Hero calls t200.River: (t1275) Jclub.gif(2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets t650, UTG calls t650.Final Pot: t2575Results in white below: UTG has 9d Ad (one pair, nines). Hero has Th Kh (high card, king). Outcome: UTG wins t2575. He goes on an on about what a phenomenal read he made. Ok, I played the hand pretty horribly (I was tired and sick though) , but there is no way, he put that much thought into his play, he probably didn't even see the J and thought he still had TPTK. And how the **** is my riverbet an "overbet"?Fish said, "haha"Fish said, "thought you would do that"Fish said, "i knew he was on a flush draw"Fish said, "and had him beat"Fish said, "so i gave him a chance to bluff"Fish said, "and he overbet like a donkey"Fish said, "and i call"

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<snip>He goes on an on about what a phenomenal read he made. Ok, I played the hand pretty horribly (I was tired and sick though) , but there ist no way, he put that much thought into his play, he probably didn't even see the J and thought he still hat TPTK. And how the **** ist my riverbet an "overbet"?
Were you still tired and sick when you posted this?
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