What Daniel Did In The Main Event Will Make You Sick! Shocking!

[StrippersNBlow 0]

9i wonder how maqny of the donks in this thread have wet dreams about dan

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[thib82 0]

IMO, it's the dealer and the guy who put too many chips in the pot, fault, not DN. If this would have happen to me, where I got more chips than I was supposed to, and a rail bird made a comment, it would have been on. This in no way effects you, so you have no right to make a comment about it. you say you have lost all respect for him now, seriously, there was 12 mil at stake here. Why wouldn't you take advantage of this. Yeah, it is probably immoral, but it's 12 mil!!

[StrippersNBlow 0]

Dude, you are lucky it was DN and that you just got an evil look... cause if it was somebody like Sam Grizzle or Eskimo Clark you would have gotten punched in the face. You have no business speaking up from the rail it is the players', dealers' and floormen's job to make sure pots are correct... not yours.

Phil Hellmuth would beg to differ, he directly affected a pot from the rail the year Ferguson won. It is everyone's job to protect the integrity of the game.

[XXEddie 0]

Phil Hellmuth would beg to differ, he directly affected a pot from the rail the year Ferguson won. It is everyone's job to protect the integrity of the game.

yeah, but this isnt about integrity. If DN reached into someone's stack, then yes a railbird could speak up. But the BB shoulda been more careful about the chips he put in and the dealer shoulda noticed aswell. It isnt everyone's job to protect everyone from stupid decisions

[fatman 1]

Sounds to me like somebody was a bit upset about busting out of the ME and was still looking for a little action from the rail.Dude, you had no business saying a word. STFU.

[runthemover 39]

if this situation did occur then, OP you are more in the wrong for alerting a player to the situation. A person is in charge of their own hand and chips. you have no right to get involved. it's just like a person folding a winning hand. would you speak up from the rail if you saw someone fold a winner at showdown?

[llou 0]

Mike then told the big blind what had happened who alerted the dealer. MIke also directly told Daniel what had happened, pointing out that he had 5 yellow instead of 3 which he should have had. Harvey D.

If we assume for a moment that the incident went down EXACTLY as Harvey D. says it did ... then ...The big blind and the dealer knew about it before Daniel did. Why would it have been Daniel's responsibility to do something about it? If the dealer did not react to the news and the big blind did not request a ruling, why would Daniel? If the big blind and the dealer were content with the situation after hearing the report from the rail, Daniel would have no reason to make a big deal over a remark from the rail that might or might not be true. It was the responsibility of the big blind and the dealer to respond, not Daniel's.The OP's own story doesn't add up to the sin he claims it is ... even if it is true.

[king_tanner 84]

This just in: Railers at WSOP banned from talking.

[Nealyh_02 0]

I will be the first to say this, I am -- WAS -- A HUGE Daniel Negreanu fan until I witnessed something that made me sick to my stomach. This occurred on Day 3 of the Main Event of the 2006 World Series of Poker. Daniel was sitting at Table 56, just along the isle, to his right my a good friend of mine MIKE who I had been watching since I busted on Day 2. ---Daniel, you remember me, the one in the basketball jersey that you spoke with once the break started. ---I was on the rail watching the action. The blinds were $1,200 and $2,400 with a $300 ante and 11 minutes left in the level. At this point Daniel had approximately $30,000 in chips or so after losing a lot of his stack prior to coming to the table. The key here is I was watching this table for hours. This is what occurred ---Daniel was on the button, his chip stack was COMPLETELY made up of black chips...He had NOTHING but $100 black chips to start the hand. Everyone folded to Daniel, who decided to push. Mike in the small blind folded his hand (he had put out one yellow worth $1,000 and two black), the big blind after much comtemplation decided to fold. However, I noticed that the big blind had put out too many chips!!! Instead of two yellow and four black (which would have been $2,400, he put out FOUR yellow and four black, worth $4,400). I immediately noticed this and prior to the next hand, alerted MIke of what had happened. The Dealer gave the chips to Daniel. Mike then told the big blind what had happened who alerted the dealer. MIke also directly told Daniel what had happened, pointing out that he had 5 yellow instead of 3 which he should have had. Daniel then took the 5 yellow and hid them to the side of his stack until the next hand was dealt. As this was going on, the break was nearing. After 4 MORE hands, and Daniel having won a couple of pots, he said "I'll get the floorman". He did that, knowing that he had waited enough hands and won a couple of more small pots, collecting the additional yellow, that there was no way they would be able to give the guy his chips back. All the while, Daniel looks like the good guy.I know you were crippled in chips at that point Daniel, but what you did was wrong!!!! Absolutely wrong and classless!! I have always admired and respected your game, and even marveled at the way you are able to read players, but that was all thrown out the window when you STOLE $2,000 in chips at the Main Event of the World Series of Poker. You looked directly at me when I was telling everyone what was going on. You looked pissed....I hope that you were not pissed that someone would catch what you did, but just pissed that someone would actually speak up.I know you will claim you had no idea, which is a total crock of crap, but hey.....whatever helps you sleep at night.I hope you are man enough to admit what you did, and hope others will accept that in the heat of the moment you made a bad choice. I -- and everyone else--- would respect you again, at least somewhat. A Former Huge Fan.....Harvey D.[/quotewait a minute...didnt this occur on the ESPN show tilt????

[BoBetter 0]

Come on guys we're now talking about one of the worst television shows in the history of television.....Tilt. This thread has obviously gone to ****.Let's lock this one up.Seriously, lock it up.

[sanemancrazywrld 0]

If you believe that IFA) The big blind posted too much ANDB.) Daniel knew about it right away and thought something along the lines of "**** him", I'm keeping the chipsthat it's totally fine, you've got some serious character flaws. Have some freakin' integrity.

[timwakefield 68]

Dude, you are lucky it was DN and that you just got an evil look... cause if it was somebody like Sam Grizzle or Eskimo Clark you would have gotten punched in the face. You have no business speaking up from the rail it is the players', dealers' and floormen's job to make sure pots are correct... not yours.

DN prolly woulda decked him too, but didn't want the 10-minute penalty.

[jowest 0]

this is easy. before cards are dealt the bb puts out too many chips (this is a raise out of turn) action moves back to him and he does not correct the mistake therefore action is on him and chips are live. DN wins the extra chips.I am surprised no one has said this already. NOTHING wrong with this. IT IS COVERED IN THE RULES.case closedNOW lock it up

[timwakefield 68]

this is easy. before cards are dealt the bb puts out too many chips (this is a raise out of turn) action moves back to him and he does not correct the mistake therefore action is on him and chips are live. DN wins the extra chips.I am surprised no one has said this already. NOTHING wrong with this. IT IS COVERED IN THE RULES.case closedNOW lock it up

Yes but even more important IMO is that the OP got sooooooooooo bent out of shape about this, when really he is the only one who acted in an unethical way.

[Canuckickstan 2]

this is easy. before cards are dealt the bb puts out too many chips (this is a raise out of turn) action moves back to him and he does not correct the mistake therefore action is on him and chips are live. DN wins the extra chips.I am surprised no one has said this already. NOTHING wrong with this. IT IS COVERED IN THE RULES.case closedNOW lock it up

Good one. Logical thinking indeed.

[Devorzon 0]

I think you're all missing the point here. Everybody knows it's not DN's fault, but his friends mistake. The OP is just expressing his disappointment in DN for not pointing out the extra money in the pot when he obviously must've noticed it. The OP figures DN needed the money so bad since he was down that his morals went out the window, and he is disappointed in this. That's all.

[HarveyD 0]

Ok....First, I am floored by the quick response of all of you....Second...I read all the posts.....There was one that said, it was resolved immediately....WRONG!!!!! DN waited 5 hands to say anything, and for the exact reason that I mentioned in my original posting!!!! However, I will concede several things that others mentioned.....1. Was it my place to say anything? Probably not.....BUT, the reason I DID say something was because I didn't think that DN would want chips that he didn't earn. Guess I was wrong.2. It was not my buddy who put the chips out there...it was the guy next to him. Was it his fault that this happened...ABSOLUTELY!!! But any of you out there who have played in big poker tourneys know how exhausting it is. These guys had been playing for 3 days, and it was almost midnight of day three. Anyone could make that mistake. 3. Of course the dealer should have said something, but any of you that went to the WSOP know half the dealers were pissed about how they were treated by Harrah's and they probably just didn't give a crap. 4. I am not full of crap!!! I was there!! Anyone that takes offense to this posting, or thinks it's crap, sorry guys it happened.I have NO doubt that DN knew what he was doing! You guys can call me anything you want, I don't really care. I just thought that you guys should know what he did. I used to be just as loyal a fan of DN as all of you....Until this happened. I am not some jerk off trying to cause trouble. I am 28, an attorney here in San Diego, California and if anybody wants more info than that...just ask. I have NO reason to lie. Honestly, if I wasn't there and witnessed it for myself, I may not believe it either. As for stacking his chips a certain way. There was no stacking involved. He had nothing but black before that hand. He obviously put them to the side opposite of my buddy and the big blind. It's just a shame. Oh, and I do have a life....One that doesn't involve cheating....

[timwakefield 68]

I don't think you're lying about what went down, but look at my example from the retail store line. It's just not your place to say something. If somebody is tossing their chips away, let them.

[DaBruins 0]

if im in the main event fighting for my life and my opponent gives me too many chips and the dealer does not correct him, i aint saying a thing.

[doctorp32 0]

The dealers at this years wsop had to be the WORST DEALERS IN THIS SOLAR SYSTEM. If i were DN i think that i would have had to DONKEY PUNCH you then slap you in the back of the neck. If a guy put to many chips in on the BB and didnt realize it. I think that i would raise so much he couldnt call

[HarveyD 0]

I don't think you're lying about what went down, but look at my example from the retail store line. It's just not your place to say something. If somebody is tossing their chips away, let them.Tim....I will agree, I probably should not have said anything....But, like I said in my second posting, I just didn't think DN would want to accumulate chips that way....As for decking me....lol....good luck. Again....I am only telling you this, not because I was busted from the ME, which obviously sucked, but everyone who has gotten cracked knows that it sucks, I am saying this only because I was soooo suprised. I mean, I was just like all of you, I got his auto at last year's WSOP, then played along side him...Geez....Sorry guys....

[ShortStacked 0]

Once the dealer awards a player the pot/pushes the chips to the player, the decision is final. Dn was under no obligation to give them back though the player does have choice whether they want to or not.It happens. Life goes on.I'm surprised someones so wound up over this tbh.

[mhoward29 0]

Agreed that the BB and the dealer should have caught it...But I guess its just a thing called integrity to know that there was a mistake and try to cover it up. I would give the extra chips back because I feel that people make mistakes, we are human... why not be a good person and help someone out. I play lots of cash games at B&M casino's and this happens all the time with people putting out the wrong amount. I always say something cuz sometimes the dealers dont see it. Like I said, it happens.Do I think DN was wrong here, technically no, morally yes, IF he infact knew there was a mistake and didnt help to correct it.To all of you who told the OP to "fck off, I dont believe you", what proof do you have that it didnt happen. Maybe the OP showed you some flaw in your hero that you worship all day, but remember nobody is perfect.

[Spademan 94]

I am not some jerk off trying to cause trouble. I am 28, an attorney here in San Diego, California and if anybody wants more info than that...just ask. As for decking me....lol....good luck.

So you're a lawyer *and* a tough guy?Cool.Your story is stupid, your offense at his actions is stupid, and you express yourself stupidly.Even if true, it would be the Blind, dealer and floors responsibility, not anyone elses, especially some stupid tough guy lawyer in a basketball jersey standing on the rail.Go away.

[nutzbuster 7]

Ok....First, I am floored by the quick response of all of you....Second...I read all the posts.....There was one that said, it was resolved immediately....WRONG!!!!! DN waited 5 hands to say anything, and for the exact reason that I mentioned in my original posting!!!! However, I will concede several things that others mentioned.....1. Was it my place to say anything? Probably not.....BUT, the reason I DID say something was because I didn't think that DN would want chips that he didn't earn. Guess I was wrong.2. It was not my buddy who put the chips out there...it was the guy next to him. Was it his fault that this happened...ABSOLUTELY!!! But any of you out there who have played in big poker tourneys know how exhausting it is. These guys had been playing for 3 days, and it was almost midnight of day three. Anyone could make that mistake. 3. Of course the dealer should have said something, but any of you that went to the WSOP know half the dealers were pissed about how they were treated by Harrah's and they probably just didn't give a crap. 4. I am not full of crap!!! I was there!! Anyone that takes offense to this posting, or thinks it's crap, sorry guys it happened.I have NO doubt that DN knew what he was doing! You guys can call me anything you want, I don't really care. I just thought that you guys should know what he did. I used to be just as loyal a fan of DN as all of you....Until this happened. I am not some jerk off trying to cause trouble. I am 28, an attorney here in San Diego, California and if anybody wants more info than that...just ask. I have NO reason to lie. Honestly, if I wasn't there and witnessed it for myself, I may not believe it either. As for stacking his chips a certain way. There was no stacking involved. He had nothing but black before that hand. He obviously put them to the side opposite of my buddy and the big blind. It's just a shame. Oh, and I do have a life....One that doesn't involve cheating....

I'm NOT accusing you of lying, but they did begin discussing this almost immediately when it happened. It was not a big deal, more like "what was in the pot?" ... "I dunno, do you rememeber"..."i think it was wrong" ..."really ?..how much"...blah blah blah. It was discussed almost immediately because we all saw the discussion and what not.Pots get screwed up all the time at casinos, but that's too bad. Was Daniel supposed to say "here ya go" and throw them back? I honestly do not think that anyone really knew what had happened exactly, and once the cards hit the muck, that was it! Over...next hand please.There is no way in he11 Daniel would squirel away the chips in a mannner like the kid who just stole a cookie. Total BS. Like I said, he would rake in the chips, sort out the stack by color and stack them here and there. He did not have many yellow at that point, so what good would hiding them do? They stood out like sore thumbs no matter where it put them! They were there, out in the open for all to see. You are accusing him of being dishonest and it is that I take issue with. Bu11shit on you O P.