runthemover 39 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 ...maybe ask Nikki.I should've just listened to Billy Callahan aka Colin Farrell's advice might be a strech it's from that scrubs episode Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmering Wang 1 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Dear Speedz,Recently, a few posters have been overusing e-gay jokes/references. It's unfortunate they are being used with Great_Dane enthusiasm because as we all know, they can be quite refreshing on occasion. Now, these posters, hi, shia, seem like nice enough guys, but I don't want to be 'that guy.' How should I go about broaching the subject? If at all. Also, what is the correct way grammatically to use the "if at all" phrase in a sentence. I thought about putting it at the end of that query with a comma splice, but that seemed incorrect though probably universally accepted.Relatedly, could you and/or your smart friends post up a reference for posters to consult for allowed frequence of common jokes / sayings?regards from your bff,anonymousIn colloquial dialog- like we have here- setting "if at all" apart from the previous question is perfectly acceptable, assuming you wish to indicate a second, somewhat related but distinct thought/query. That being said, it should have been:"How should I go about broaching the subject? If at all?"Put a question mark after the clause, to indicate that, in addition to how to go about broaching the subject, you also wonder if you should bring it up at all. Plus it ensures that the reader knows your voice is going up at the end of each sentence, which is totally clutch.This is informal, but fine for our purposes. If you want to be on the safe side, here is the grammatically correct formation:"How should I go about broaching the subject, if at all?"I am a college dropout.Wang Link to post Share on other sites
runthemover 39 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 In colloquial dialog- like we have here- setting "if at all" apart from the previous question is perfectly acceptable, assuming you wish to indicate a second, somewhat related but distinct thought/query. That being said, it should have been:"How should I go about broaching the subject? If at all?"Put a question mark after the clause, to indicate that, in addition to how to go about broaching the subject, you also wonder if you should bring it up at all. Plus it ensures that the reader knows your voice is going up at the end of each sentence, which is totally clutch.This is informal, but fine for our purposes. If you want to be on the safe side, here is the grammatically correct formation:"How should I go about broaching the subject, if at all?"I am a college dropout.Wangthat's how I originally had it. thanks. Somewhere around here, I have a book called "Survival" that we got in 8th grade. It covers almost anything concerning grammar and writing that you could think about. It's probably the most useful book I ever got. I used it throughout highschool and college. Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmering Wang 1 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 that's how I originally had it. thanks. Somewhere around here, I have a book called "Survival" that we got in 8th grade. It covers almost anything concerning grammar and writing that you could think about. It's probably the most useful book I ever got. I used it throughout highschool and college.I respectfully disagree. Strunk and White's "The Elements of Style" is the fucking joint when it comes to this shit. It's a bad Grammar Jammer. Wang Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 16, 2007 Author Share Posted July 16, 2007 I respectfully disagree. Strunk and White's "The Elements of Style" is the fucking joint when it comes to this shit. It's a bad Grammar Jammer. WangGet the fuck out, both of you. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 In colloquial dialog- like we have here- setting "if at all" apart from the previous question is perfectly acceptable, assuming you wish to indicate a second, somewhat related but distinct thought/query. That being said, it should have been:"How should I go about broaching the subject? If at all?"Put a question mark after the clause, to indicate that, in addition to how to go about broaching the subject, you also wonder if you should bring it up at all. Plus it ensures that the reader knows your voice is going up at the end of each sentence, which is totally clutch.This is informal, but fine for our purposes. If you want to be on the safe side, here is the grammatically correct formation:"How should I go about broaching the subject, if at all?"I am a college dropout.WangOh, man, in this post, you used the second worst dashing technique, thus creating the brief confusion that's really Prescriptivism's last standing-leg. Here's a rant about the technique form when I was drinking more:The hyphen has been co-opted by idiots, and is used in place of the dash.I don't mean to harp on punctuation, and I understand that it's been more or less pointless when I went off on things that don't really make a difference, like the ellipsis with like twelve dots in it or whatever, but it's unbelievably confusing when people hyphenate two words together thinking it will work as a dash (like say, "Dutch has-among other things-too much time on his hands", as apposed to, “Dutch has--among other things--too much time on his hands). There are a lotta' ways to space the dash (space, hyphen, space probably being my favorite), and this is the worst possible way. I really don't care about it being "incorrect." It's just really confusing. Even if you just make up something new, like... "Dutch has))))among other things)))..." at least that isn't already taken. You can't just steal the hyphen, we need that. It takes five times as long to figure out what the hell is going on.It's not just message boards, a handful of big-name bloggers do it, and I've seen it in major news papers. I asked some other people if they found it to be confusing. The response was a tad chilling; several people didn't even know what the dash or the hyphen were. People read, see "weird-looking" marks in their day-to-day readings, and either have so little interest that they don't care to look it up, or such horrible comprehension that they don't even notice it.Also, the EoS is a bit out-dated, don't you think?Edit: "It's a bad Grammar Jammer," though, almost made me laugh out loud. Link to post Share on other sites
runthemover 39 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 I hate you and everything for which you stand. Also, you smell. Wangit's on Slimmening Wang I probably should've checked my grammar instead of just writing this out and posting Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmering Wang 1 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Oh, man, in this post, you used the second worst dashing technique, thus creating the brief confusion that's really Prescriptivism's last standing-leg. Here's a rant about the technique form when I was drinking more:Also, the EoS is a bit out-dated, don't you think?Edit: "It's a bad Grammar Jammer," though, almost made me laugh out loud.I understand your position completely, and it compounds the problem that I hyphenate ALOT. I'd venture a guess that I hyphenate more often than anybody else who uses this message board, and it probably isn't all that close. I had a discussion a while back - well before I started experimenting with the dash as a solution to my tendency to write long, maundering sentences - about how to best utilize the dash and avoid punctuation confusion, especially in semi-informal settings like this. I think I'm going to just start using the "space - space" for a little, see how it looks. My reaction so far: it's totally faggy, but now I'll have to do it because I totally see your point, and I'm unusually fastidious about stuff like this, to the point that it'll make me sick to my stomach if I look at it in the future the old way.I'm slightly surprised, however, that the underlying theme here is "FUCKING RULES AND CONVENTIONS EXIST TO MAKE COMMUNICATION EASIER, WHICH IS WHY THEY NEED TO BE FUCKING FOLLOWED!" Because that's how I feel, and I am a pretty rigid prescriptivist, and you are not. Good talk. And EoS is the best. This is one thing I WILL NOT debate. Plus, I bought it for a girl once instead of flowers on our first date, and it turned out really, really well.Wang Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I understand your position completely, and it compounds the problem that I hyphenate ALOT. I'd venture a guess that I hyphenate more often than anybody else who uses this message board, and it probably isn't all that close. I had a discussion a while back - well before I started experimenting with the dash as a solution to my tendency to write long, maundering sentences - about how to best utilize the dash and avoid punctuation confusion, especially in semi-informal settings like this. I think I'm going to just start using the "space - space" for a little, see how it looks. My reaction so far: it's totally faggy, but now I'll have to do it because I totally see your point, and I'm unusually fastidious about stuff like this, to the point that it'll make me sick to my stomach if I look at it in the future the old way.I'm slightly surprised, however, that the underlying theme here is "FUCKING RULES AND CONVENTIONS EXIST TO MAKE COMMUNICATION EASIER, WHICH IS WHY THEY NEED TO BE FUCKING FOLLOWED!" Because that's how I feel, and I am a pretty rigid prescriptivist, and you are not. Good talk. And EoS is the best. This is one thing I WILL NOT debate. Plus, I bought it for a girl once instead of flowers on our first date, and it turned out really, really well.WangI don't really even know the rules of grammar as rules, to be honest. I never bothered to pick them up, because I always just had a pretty good eye and could feel my way through a sentence. I think for super formal stuff, EoS is probably best, but I never write like that, and don't find modern writing that follows it too strictly to be pleasant or even to seem intellectual, anymore. I think you'll be happy with that dash system. It's my go-to informal dash. For anything sexy, I do "[space] double-dash [space]."Edit: Oh, nicely done on the flowers-proxy. Best, though, if you use the line, "It's a bad Grammar Jammer, sweetheart," when you give it to her. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Dear Speedz,Say you have a friend who has a weird fetish, and while normally you would be totally supportive of this sockfuc.. friends choices, how can you tell him that he needs to get a grip on it so you don't have to do 3 extra loads of laundry a week.Regards,Friend of a sockfucker. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Dear Speedz,Say you have a friend who has a weird fetish, and while normally you would be totally supportive of this sockfuc.. friends choices, how can you tell him that he needs to get a grip on it so you don't have to do 3 extra loads of laundry a week.Regards,Friend of a sockfucker.Dear SockFuckerFriend,First let's clarify...in the bolded portion of your question, are you saying that you do his laundry? Or did you mean that you are trying to keep him from having to do extra laundry?Sincerely,Speedz Link to post Share on other sites
renaedawn 1 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 And EoS is the best. This is one thing I WILL NOT debate. Plus, I bought it for a girl once instead of flowers on our first date, and it turned out really, really well.WangI've had my EoS since freshman year of college. It's a well worn friend. I don't follow it like I should but I do still have it. Kind of like the Bible. It's sitting right there (looks up slightly and to the left to the shelf above my head). Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Dear SockFuckerFriend,First let's clarify...in the bolded portion of your question, are you saying that you do his laundry? Or did you mean that you are trying to keep him from having to do extra laundry?Sincerely,SpeedzI mean he needs to leave my socks alone. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 I mean he needs to leave my socks alone.Dear JizzSocks,A few ideas of what to do with your socks when you're not using them.Line their insides with sandpaper.Set small mousetraps down at the tips.Leave a few old ones in easily accessed locations...draw all over the insides with magic marker that will rub right off.Or you could buy him a present of a new package of socks and tell him to leave yours alone. If he's not easily embarrassed this won't be a problem. If he is easily embarrassed then it's still not a problem, because anyone that uses someone else's socks to jerk off deserves to feel like a jackass.Sincerely,Speedz Link to post Share on other sites
DoinSublime 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I've had my EoS since freshman year of college. It's a well worn friend. I don't follow it like I should but I do still have it. Kind of like the Bible. It's sitting right there (looks up slightly and to the left to the shelf above my head).I've had that book since sixth grade and have never read it, no wonder I can't write complete sentences good. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Dear Speedz,Can I be Jewish?Signed,I love goooooooold. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Dear JizzSocks,A few ideas of what to do with your socks when you're not using them.Line their insides with sandpaper.Set small mousetraps down at the tips.Leave a few old ones in easily accessed locations...draw all over the insides with magic marker that will rub right off.Or you could buy him a present of a new package of socks and tell him to leave yours alone. If he's not easily embarrassed this won't be a problem. If he is easily embarrassed then it's still not a problem, because anyone that uses someone else's socks to jerk off deserves to feel like a jackass.Sincerely,SpeedzCan we use smilies here? Link to post Share on other sites
renaedawn 1 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I've had that book since sixth grade and have never read it, no wonder I can't write complete sentences good.It's not much of a page turner. It's not really a book you sit down and read. You should skim through it though. And refer to it often if for no other reason than to not split into two sentences what should be one like I just did. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Dear Speedz,Can I be Jewish?Signed,I love goooooooold.Dear Goldmember,I'm sorry, there's a very specific "No Hanks" rule in the Torah. We already had one back in the late nineteenth century, so you're shit out of luck. Go grab a bong and a blintz to make yourself feel better.Sincerely,Speedz99Can we use smilies here?I'll allow it, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I respectfully disagree. Strunk and White's "The Elements of Style" is the fucking joint when it comes to this shit. It's a bad Grammar Jammer. WangOk, this is about the funniest shit that I have ever read. Link to post Share on other sites
leftygolfer 7 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Speedz,I am playing poker with my 16 year old nephew and my future step-son and his friend ( both are 15).Strippers and coke or hookers and pepsi?Love,Your biggest fan Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Speedz,I am playing poker with my 16 year old nephew and my future step-son and his friend ( both are 15).Strippers and coke or hookers and pepsi?Love,Your biggest fanDear Philsy,I would personally recommend trannies and ecstasy. Now go home and get your focus back...missing two Major cuts in a row is pathetic.Sincerely,Speedz Link to post Share on other sites
HangukMiguk 8 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear speedz,In which direction should I blow my wad?SincerelyCircumnavigationally challenged. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear speedz,In which direction should I blow my wad?SincerelyCircumnavigationally challenged.Dear CC,North. Always North.Sincerely,Speedz Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 chrozzo goes north by northwest Link to post Share on other sites
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