SLEEPYCHIEF 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 playing 1-1 NLH, 4 see a flop raised 5 dollars by a maniac. Flop is 8 7 10 Rainbow. I have pocket 8's and check knowing maniac will bet. he bets 5, 2 call, I reraise 25 more. Maniac calls, next guy calls 25 and moves in for 14 more. One fold, back to me and the only option i have is to call. I CAN NOT RAISE?? WTF. In a regular game I move in here to isolate, since I do not put maniac on J 9. If other guy has it oh well, i'll have to make a boat. Of couse maniac calls 14 more. Turn is Jh, putting two hearts on board as well. I check maniac moves in for 101.00. I only have 104.00 left and don't think i can make the call. I fold. RIVER IS 8!!!!! Any ways one guy turns over pocket 7's and maniac has KhQh. It's sick how a dumb maniac and especially the flaws in fcp cost me money. They might have lost a customer! Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Um.... that's a rule in NLHE, not the site's fault. If his bet is less than double your bet, you can't raise. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs1281 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 poker rules, he didnt double the raise so you cannot isolate because betting isnt re-opened, not a flaw in FCP Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 :doh: Link to post Share on other sites
wingsare1 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Thats does not sound good. Should contact the customer service department. Link to post Share on other sites
yeffy 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Um.... that's a rule in NLHE, not the site's fault. If his bet is less than double your bet, you can't raise.Yup can't fault them for using the correct rules for a NLH game. Link to post Share on other sites
loxo 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Thats does not sound good. Should contact the customer service department.read the above posts :roll: Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Thats does not sound good. Should contact the customer service department.(sw)read the above posts :roll:FHP Link to post Share on other sites
seacucumber 2 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Thats does not sound good. Should contact the customer service department.I totally agree. Your problem can be resolved by immediately sending a PM to dna4ever. I hear that the response time is excellent! Link to post Share on other sites
yergan 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 You really should PM DNA4ever to get his opinion on the subject.Edit: Too late.In all serious, could someone explain this better to me. I was under the impression that if the raise is more than half of the original, it was reopened. Link to post Share on other sites
ChipLeader7 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I think you should know the rules before you start playing and especially before you criticize a site. Link to post Share on other sites
SAM_Hard8 50 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I hate it when the rules get in the way. Link to post Share on other sites
yeffy 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 You really should PM DNA4ever to get his opinion on the subject.Edit: Too late.In all serious, could someone explain this better to me. I was under the impression that if the raise is more than half of the original, it was reopened.The half a bet rule is for limit games only. No-limit does not use the half a bet rule (however many people wrongly do use it in live games).In order to reopen the betting to a player who has already acted on a bet the raise must be double the initial bet or more. Link to post Share on other sites
SLEEPYCHIEF 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 I did not know that. If that is truly a rule in NLH, I have lost some respect for the game as the rule makes no sense. Kind of like in the NFL if the ref blows the play dead there can be no replay WTF!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
superchuck 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I did not know that. If that is truly a rule in NLH, I have lost some respect for the game as the rule makes no sense. Kind of like in the NFL if the ref blows the play dead there can be no replay WTF!!!!i love you. Link to post Share on other sites
vonteego3 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I did not know that. If that is truly a rule in NLH, I have lost some respect for the game as the rule makes no sense. Kind of like in the NFL if the ref blows the play dead there can be no replay WTF!!!!Stupid rule, you're right. It's not like players have been told for years to "play to the whistle" or anything like that. Link to post Share on other sites
p r o d i g y 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 playing 1-1 NLH, 4 see a flop raised 5 dollars by a maniac. Flop is 8 7 10 Rainbow. I have pocket 8's and check knowing maniac will bet. he bets 5, 2 call, I reraise 25 more. Maniac calls, next guy calls 25 and moves in for 14 more. One fold, back to me and the only option i have is to call. I CAN NOT RAISE?? WTF. In a regular game I move in here to isolate, since I do not put maniac on J 9. If other guy has it oh well, i'll have to make a boat. Of couse maniac calls 14 more. Turn is Jh, putting two hearts on board as well. I check maniac moves in for 101.00. I only have 104.00 left and don't think i can make the call. I fold. RIVER IS 8!!!!! Any ways one guy turns over pocket 7's and maniac has KhQh. It's sick how a dumb maniac and especially the flaws in fcp cost me money. They might have lost a customer!More like... flaws in the player. Link to post Share on other sites
bayouboy 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I did not know that. If that is truly a rule in NLH, I have lost some respect for the game as the rule makes no sense. Kind of like in the NFL if the ref blows the play dead there can be no replay WTF!!!!I guess you won't be making millions Link to post Share on other sites
kevo 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 does anybody have a logical explanation for the reason for this rule. i've never understood it. ?? Link to post Share on other sites
tyfgine 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 does anybody have a logical explanation for the reason for this rule. i've never understood it. ??as a matter of fact, yes, DNA4ever can explain this rule, and many others a often as you like. Just send him a PM and he'll be glad to help. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 does anybody have a logical explanation for the reason for this rule. i've never understood it. ??Here's the reason:You cannot raise yourself.Explanation:If you bet/raise and a player moves in for less a minimum raise, then their all-in is not considered a raise. Therefore, when the play gets back to you, since no one has raised your bet, you cannot raise, but can just call the extra money.Take an extreme senario:You bet $1000, there are two callers and the last player goes all-in for $1002 ($2 more). Then you cannot reopen the betting when it gets back to you (a $2 "raise " is not a real raise here). Obviously in this case it makes sense that there is no raise allowed.I know that this sucks when the all-in is nearly a minimum raise, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, and the minimum raise amount happens to be that line.Try to anticipate the reraise all-in, and make your bet half (or less) of the short stack's chips, so you can still reraise OR just make a large enough bet to put him all-in in the first place.Hope this clears up some confusion.Cheers,Merby Link to post Share on other sites
alf13 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Oh Jesus.....I had to explain this rule once to a guy in a tournament I ran.....I almost stabbed the guy in the eye with a butter knife. Link to post Share on other sites
PAYforUSC 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 are you serious? Link to post Share on other sites
Vatche 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 loll...these noobs are getting funnier and funnier... Link to post Share on other sites
liveactiononly 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 i am checking Link to post Share on other sites
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