Lhe Challenge(?) Thread

[Dirtydutch 8]

Every couple of weeks or so I post some half-baked declaration about how I'm going to learn another game seriously. Truth be told, I mostly think that because I get bored for an hour or two, and wonder how easy it would be to pick one up. But in all honesty I have no interest in ever playing much straight NL or PLO, and think my edge would be bigger in LHE, given the same amount of work. I do, however, hope to eventually play high-stakes mixed games, partly because I feel like the kind of groundwork understanding I'm working to develop will allow me to be much more efficient in my education, and therefore have a greater average edge than a lot of players. The thing is, LHE is the only HORSE game I don't suck at. I assume the stud games are where I would want to concentrate my early effort? Also, any thoughts or criticism of my thought process on this subject?(This is a long-term aspiration, and I don't see myself working in too many mixed game hands until my paper's right and I'm beating mid-stakes LHE, but I'd like to start building a foundation in my spare[er] time.)

[checkymcfold 0]

Every couple of weeks or so I post some half-baked declaration about how I'm going to learn another game seriously. Truth be told, I mostly think that because I get bored for an hour or two, and wonder how easy it would be to pick one up. But in all honesty I have no interest in ever playing much straight NL or PLO, and think my edge would be bigger in LHE, given the same amount of work. I do, however, hope to eventually play high-stakes mixed games, partly because I feel like the kind of groundwork understanding I'm working to develop will allow me to be much more efficient in my education, and therefore have a greater average edge than a lot of players. The thing is, LHE is the only HORSE game I don't suck at. I assume the stud games are where I would want to concentrate my early effort? Also, any thoughts or criticism of my thought process on this subject?(This is a long-term aspiration, and I don't see myself working in too many mixed game hands until my paper's right and I'm beating mid-stakes LHE, but I'd like to start building a foundation in my spare[er] time.)

as someone who plays most games reasonably well, my progression may be somewhat helpful there, maybe. here's the basic order that i learned how to play limit forms of poker:LHELO82-7 (though this was because s7s decided to teach everyone in his first class the game all at once--i didn't get good enough at it to understand it deeply until much later, probably after stud hi)razzstud8stud hibadugifwiw, i think i still have more to learn about stud hi than any other limit game.

[HighwayStar 8]

Like vs a 56/20 who 4 bets everything here pf?? PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is BB with J , A 1 fold, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP caps, Hero callsFlop: (8.5 SB) 3 , Q , 5 (2 players)Hero checks, MP bets, Hero raises, MP callsTurn: (6.25 BB) 5 (2 players)Hero bets, 1 foldTotal pot: $12.50 (6.25 BB) | Rake: $0.50

[antistuff 0]

Every couple of weeks or so I post some half-baked declaration about how I'm going to learn another game seriously. Truth be told, I mostly think that because I get bored for an hour or two, and wonder how easy it would be to pick one up. But in all honesty I have no interest in ever playing much straight NL or PLO, and think my edge would be bigger in LHE, given the same amount of work. I do, however, hope to eventually play high-stakes mixed games, partly because I feel like the kind of groundwork understanding I'm working to develop will allow me to be much more efficient in my education, and therefore have a greater average edge than a lot of players. The thing is, LHE is the only HORSE game I don't suck at. I assume the stud games are where I would want to concentrate my early effort? Also, any thoughts or criticism of my thought process on this subject?(This is a long-term aspiration, and I don't see myself working in too many mixed game hands until my paper's right and I'm beating mid-stakes LHE, but I'd like to start building a foundation in my spare[er] time.)

i have long suspected that there is more profit to be found in midstakes online stud games than just about anywhere else.edit: in the short term badugi might be better because it just started getting spread on stars. if you get even sort of decent at it when they start spreading 5/10 and 10/20 you might be able to clean up.

[checkymcfold 0]

Like vs a 56/20 who 4 bets everything here pf?? PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is BB with J , A 1 fold, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP caps, Hero callsFlop: (8.5 SB) 3 , Q , 5 (2 players)Hero checks, MP bets, Hero raises, MP callsTurn: (6.25 BB) 5 (2 players)Hero bets, 1 foldTotal pot: $12.50 (6.25 BB) | Rake: $0.50

if he fires all streets with any two, why not call down? if not, nh.

[HighwayStar 8]

if he fires all streets with any two, why not call down? if not, nh.

i dunno if he's capable of doing that yet. It wouldn't surprise me though. I'll try it out if I get a chance

[antistuff 0]

There are really really good articles here.

somebody really needs to tell this dude to shut up. i'm not one to often get hush about poker strategy stuff, but he goes way too far. the only blessing is that its too abstract for most people to 1) understand its importance and relevance and 2) figure out how to apply it.

[Smartluck 0]

Every couple of weeks or so I post some half-baked declaration about how I'm going to learn another game seriously. Truth be told, I mostly think that because I get bored for an hour or two, and wonder how easy it would be to pick one up. But in all honesty I have no interest in ever playing much straight NL or PLO, and think my edge would be bigger in LHE, given the same amount of work. I do, however, hope to eventually play high-stakes mixed games, partly because I feel like the kind of groundwork understanding I'm working to develop will allow me to be much more efficient in my education, and therefore have a greater average edge than a lot of players. The thing is, LHE is the only HORSE game I don't suck at. I assume the stud games are where I would want to concentrate my early effort? Also, any thoughts or criticism of my thought process on this subject?(This is a long-term aspiration, and I don't see myself working in too many mixed game hands until my paper's right and I'm beating mid-stakes LHE, but I'd like to start building a foundation in my spare[er] time.)

In all of the live horse or other mix games I've played in (up to $20-$40) I am very confident that if someone were to learn Stud8 and play it well, they could break even in all the other games and still turn a very nice profit. note: the reason I started playing lhe is becuase I started out playing 7Stud with my grandpa at a local card game and when going to the casino lhe seemed to fit better, have I crossed over to the dark side of NL and PLO yes, but I love mixed games and lhe and play when ever they are spread. Also, do any of you younger guys get funny looks from the brush/players when you ask to play in the limit games or mixed games? I get made fun of every time I sit in the $15-$30 game I dont think I'm even half any of the other guys age.

[checkymcfold 0]

i will only discuss this hand via PM but here is an example of me playing oddly on pretty much all streets for very distinct reasons. i have thousands of hands with the villain, fwiw.Absolute PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $2/$43 playersConverterPre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with J Q Button folds, SB raises, Hero calls.Flop: 4 A Q (4SB, 2 players)SB bets, Hero calls.Turn: 3 (3BB, 2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: 7 (3BB, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.Results:Final pot: 5BBHero Shows Jh Qh

[FCP Bob 1,312]

i will only discuss this hand via PM but here is an example of me playing oddly on pretty much all streets for very distinct reasons. i have thousands of hands with the villain, fwiw.Absolute PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $2/$43 playersConverterPre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with J Q Button folds, SB raises, Hero calls.Flop: 4 A Q (4SB, 2 players)SB bets, Hero calls.Turn: 3 (3BB, 2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: 7 (3BB, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.Results:Final pot: 5BBHero Shows Jh Qh

Depending on the opponent in most cases the only street I play differently than you do is the turn where I'll also check the turn a ton but sometimes bet it.

[checkymcfold 0]

Depending on the opponent in most cases the only street I play differently than you do is the turn where I'll also check the turn a ton but sometimes bet it.

haha, i actually almost included the line "but i bet bob plays it this way almost every time" in my above post

[Dirtydutch 8]

Are we trying to get induce a river bluff, maybe from a frequent turn donk-check/raiser? (PM me if necessary.)

[Dirtydutch 8]

i have long suspected that there is more profit to be found in midstakes online stud games than just about anywhere else.edit: in the short term badugi might be better because it just started getting spread on stars. if you get even sort of decent at it when they start spreading 5/10 and 10/20 you might be able to clean up.

as someone who plays most games reasonably well, my progression may be somewhat helpful there, maybe. here's the basic order that i learned how to play limit forms of poker:LHELO82-7 (though this was because s7s decided to teach everyone in his first class the game all at once--i didn't get good enough at it to understand it deeply until much later, probably after stud hi)razzstud8stud hibadugifwiw, i think i still have more to learn about stud hi than any other limit game.

Stud seems like a really, really deep game, and one I would really like to have a deep knowledge of. (How multi-tablable is Stud?)Also, your proficiency in a ton of games is definately something I admire and look forward to attaining.

[CobaltBlue 662]

I was just reading the Wikipedia articles on diurnal/nocturnal and then read this: http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles/time_is_on_my_side.htmHow odd. I doubt I've read/spoken either of those words in weeks or months and then get confronted with them twice within a span of 10 minutes.

[Dirtydutch 8]

I was just reading the Wikipedia articles on diurnal/nocturnal and then read this: http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles/time_is_on_my_side.htmHow odd. I doubt I've read/spoken either of those words in weeks or months and then get confronted with them twice within a span of 10 minutes.

Huh. I was really born to be a professional poker player: I have no reason to live like that at all, and yet I always have.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Generally speaking, I've always felt I'd work better on a 28 hour clock.While I'm digging through these, here's a somewhat amusing poker story:http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles/famous...ipping_hand.htm

[checkymcfold 0]

Are we trying to get induce a river bluff, maybe from a frequent turn donk-check/raiser? (PM me if necessary.)

my reasoning is kinda long, actually. i'll write the pm when my action dies down.oh, btw, i'm still ****ing on fire. up another 65BB today already in my first 300 hands.

[MinhLyFan 1]

cheky can you play any tonight

[checkymcfold 0]

cheky can you play any tonight

sorry, tongiht and tomorrow aren't good, as it's my gf's birthday. friday i'm free all day, though.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Okay, I'm now hooked:http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles/so_clo...yet_so_what.htm

[Flushgarden 0]

my reasoning is kinda long, actually. i'll write the pm when my action dies down.oh, btw, i'm still ****ing on fire. up another 65BB today already in my first 300 hands.

Copy/paste/ship my way please.

[HighwayStar 8]

My roommate last year worked on a 32 hour schedule or something ridiculous. I think I'm about 26/27 although I usually try to force myself to 24. We were always out of sync.Currently I'm going to bed at 5pm and wakng up at 1am but I'm gonna force myself back to somthing vaguely normal in a couple of days. The rest of my house have wild sleeping patterns too. There's usually someone awake at every hour.Happy Music

[Flushgarden 0]

Okay, I'm now hooked:http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles/so_clo...yet_so_what.htm

Yeah I'm loving these too.

[checkymcfold 0]

what i am doing to these poor fools is actually pretty unfair, i'm starting to realize. i'm now up a full-sized bankroll in the last three days.

[Flushgarden 0]

what i am doing to these poor fools is actually pretty unfair, i'm starting to realize. i'm now up a full-sized bankroll in the last three days.

I just cashed out a full sized bankroll, and I wish I still had one.Tis the life I chose though. I'm gonna smoke a bowl.