Lhe Challenge(?) Thread

[checkymcfold 0]

I'm gonna smoke a bowl.

goddammit. you win.

[Dirtydutch 8]

I just pissed off 50BBs, almost, and wasn't paying enough attention.

[HighwayStar 8]

I'd like to flop 1 set today and it be good for a decent pot by the end. It would also be nice if people stopped hitting gutshots.Had TT < KT and >88 fo a ~35 BB pot on KKT8x board earlier :/.

[TheCinciKid 0]

I was just reading the Wikipedia articles on diurnal/nocturnal and then read this: http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles/time_is_on_my_side.htmHow odd. I doubt I've read/spoken either of those words in weeks or months and then get confronted with them twice within a span of 10 minutes.

Very interesting article. I remember in college I used to have an away message on AIM that said, "morning is whenever I wake up." I'd put this message up whenever I went to bed, which was usually in the wee hours, fully expecting not to wake up until afternoon. I've also always said that I think my body was designed for something more like a 30 or 36 hour cycle. 24 just isn't enough. If I went with what comes naturally to me, I'd probably stay up 16-18 hours a day and sleep for 10-12. I find it very interesting that some of us are just wired this way for no apparent reason.

[Flushgarden 0]

goddammit. you win.

and we have liftoff.

[Dirtydutch 8]

Only down 12.5BB, now. I just put a sick read/distributional analysis on a free-card-raising, passive regular, and maxed the shit out of him. I'm the king.

[Dirtydutch 8]

Here's a graph of his range, produced by my cool new toy cool new toy, incidentally: (I did that wrong, and left in a bunch of hands that obviously fold, which is why the numbers don't add up. My on-the-fly range-calibration skills are in their infancy.)

[Flushgarden 0]

I'm only playing .5/1, where I should still have an edge considering my current state.oooorrrre mabye not. I didn't think this was too bad at the time.Only 6 hands with her but she's played every one of them.PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is CO with , 2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero callsFlop: (6.5 SB) , , (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB callsTurn: (4.25 BB) (2 players)BB bets, Hero raises, BB callsRiver: (8.25 BB) (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksTotal pot: $8.25 (8.25 BB) | Rake: $0.40Results:BB had , (one pair, eights).Hero had , (two pair, tens and eights).Outcome: Hero won $7.85

[Dirtydutch 8]

Did he take a hit, too?

[Flushgarden 0]

Did he take a hit, too?

I raise that turn because I was seriously sure that she didn't have any part of that or a pair. Nothing made sense so I raised. Then even though I made a pair and got showdown value so I checked behind because there's no way she could have a hand to call with that I beat. Had I not made a pair I would have bet to make K or Q high fold.

[Dirtydutch 8]

I raise that turn because I was seriously sure that she didn't have any part of that or a pair. Nothing made sense so I raised. Then even though I made a pair and got showdown value so I checked behind because there's no way she could have a hand to call with that I beat. Had I not made a pair I would have bet to make K or Q high fold.

If your read is that he would never donk an A there, then that's a decent line to try to get him to give up with a KQ or whatever, but the important thing is that no one is female on the internet. It's always a dude with a chick's name.

[DinkDonk 1]

Stuck pretty good again today, currently on an $11k downswing, and this month looks like it will quickly become quite average.Checky on that QJ hand, I generally 3 bet preflop, but if I'm flatting a lot of stuff vs. a villain, I take that exact line as well.

[Dirtydutch 8]

I haven't played many hands again this month, so any loss hurts my winrate. I'm busted back down to like 2.5/100. Lamesauce.

[Painter567 0]

Every couple of weeks or so I post some half-baked declaration about how I'm going to learn another game seriously. Truth be told, I mostly think that because I get bored for an hour or two, and wonder how easy it would be to pick one up. But in all honesty I have no interest in ever playing much straight NL or PLO, and think my edge would be bigger in LHE, given the same amount of work. I do, however, hope to eventually play high-stakes mixed games, partly because I feel like the kind of groundwork understanding I'm working to develop will allow me to be much more efficient in my education, and therefore have a greater average edge than a lot of players. The thing is, LHE is the only HORSE game I don't suck at. I assume the stud games are where I would want to concentrate my early effort? Also, any thoughts or criticism of my thought process on this subject?(This is a long-term aspiration, and I don't see myself working in too many mixed game hands until my paper's right and I'm beating mid-stakes LHE, but I'd like to start building a foundation in my spare[er] time.)

I'd be more than happy to give HORSE advice. I play all the games pretty decent. And yes......learn the Stud games, particularly Razz and Stud 8.

[Flushgarden 0]

If your read is that he would never donk an A there, then that's a decent line to try to get him to give up with a KQ or whatever, but the important thing is that no one is female on the internet. It's always a dude with a chick's name.

You're right. It maybe wasn't quite as well thought out as I thought it was. What do you do in that hand? I cant see calling down with J high after getting 3bet, and we think it has air, so we raise?...it could donk an A I suppose, but I think its more unlikely than likely, so how much credit do we give it, and does it make it not worth it to raise?Im still high and I probably sound like a jackass right now. I should stop posting. I'm up 20 BBs in 50 hands single tabling though.

[Painter567 0]

as someone who plays most games reasonably well, my progression may be somewhat helpful there, maybe. here's the basic order that i learned how to play limit forms of poker:fwiw, i think i still have more to learn about stud hi than any other limit game.

Stud seems like a really, really deep game, and one I would really like to have a deep knowledge of. (How multi-tablable is Stud?)Also, your proficiency in a ton of games is definately something I admire and look forward to attaining.

Stud 8 is one of my better games honestly.....it is the game I learned first. I have a chop at the LAPC a few years back in Stud. Chopped it once we got 3 handed. Played with Ted Forrest at my table for 5 hours or so during day 1.

[Dirtydutch 8]

You're right. It maybe wasn't quite as well thought out as I thought it was. What do you do in that hand? I cant see calling down with J high after getting 3bet, and we think it has air, so we raise?...it could donk an A I suppose, but I think its more unlikely than likely, so how much credit do we give it, and does it make it not worth it to raise?Im still high and I probably sound like a jackass right now. I should stop posting.

It really depends. If I have the right read, I'm more than willing to stick in a raise (that read has to include the likelihood of K- or Q- high, though, and also that he'll fold it), but I think I probably just pitch. Give me KQ and an aggressive, bad opponent, and I really don't need much specific to look him up two streets.

[Dirtydutch 8]

Thanks, Brad. I'm surprised at all the response I've gotten to this. Also, I now realize that there's a mixed game thread. Duh.

[checkymcfold 0]

Stuck pretty good again today, currently on an $11k downswing, and this month looks like it will quickly become quite average.Checky on that QJ hand, I generally 3 bet preflop, but if I'm flatting a lot of stuff vs. a villain, I take that exact line as well.

if december goes bad, and you go broke, you can sleep on my couch in return for a hookup .yes, please post in the mixed thread. it'll be nice to have people posting hands from non-micros in there.

[HighwayStar 8]

Just had set < set on 2 tables at once so i think it's time to end the most frustrating day ever. 2 break even stretches were littered with the most ridiculous coolers/beats I've taken yet. I felt I played pretty well except at about about hands 350 to 500 and right at the end.Still winning at 2.89 BB/100 for the month.

[DinkDonk 1]

Checky- depending on how quickly my car inspection goes and when god damn Progressive gets done with maintenance on their site, I will be heading back to Buffalo either tomorrow or Friday. I'm not sure how long I'll be around, but I'll let you know when I know. Oh and if I do go broke, I'll still have my apartment. Payment in advance FTW.

[DinkDonk 1]

Highway- Welcome to LHE. That won't stay your most frustrating day for long. Trust me.

[checkymcfold 0]

Checky- depending on how quickly my car inspection goes and when god damn Progressive gets done with maintenance on their site, I will be heading back to Buffalo either tomorrow or Friday. I'm not sure how long I'll be around, but I'll let you know when I know. Oh and if I do go broke, I'll still have my apartment. Payment in advance FTW.

oh, btw, if you want a good place for car work that won't scam you in buffalo, try bison automotive (i think it's at kenmore/delaware, as i recall). it's the first place of 3 i've tried here that didn't try to scam me (mr. tire and delta sonic).and ty, obv.oh, i also wanted to say that i "paid off" with ak high in a 20BB pot today because of your signature quote and won. the money was nice, but there was not hot waitress .HS, don't sweat a 50-60BB day at all. as you move up and hit more aggressive players that aren't being retarded-aggressive, you'll go through swings like that over the course of a couple hundred hands. if you can have a day full of set over set spots and only drop that much, you should praise jesus christ himself .

[Flushgarden 0]

http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles/reciprocality.htmThis is important. It's long but well worth the read.

[Dirtydutch 8]

Just had set < set on 2 tables at once so i think it's time to end the most frustrating day ever. 2 break even stretches were littered with the most ridiculous coolers/beats I've taken yet. I felt I played pretty well except at about about hands 350 to 500 and right at the end.Still winning at 2.89 BB/100 for the month.

Do you really play 3,000-hand sessions every day? That's crazy. I'm jealous.50BB is so so so so standard. Forget it. It's nothing. You'll have 100BB downers pretty often.