Lil_Hellmuth 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 1/2 NL in my local B & M. I am dealt J 2 in the BB. 3 limpers and I check.Flop comesQ 10 9 Beautiful flop for me. Or so I think. I lead 5 into the pot. And some guy moved all in for 32. I was faced with a big decision. I laid it down and he kindly showed me K J. But I am wondering. How many of you call in that spot? Link to post Share on other sites
Timdog1010 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 1/2 NL in my local B & M. I am dealt J 2 in the BB. 3 limpers and I check.Flop comesQ 10 9 Beautiful flop for me. Or so I think. I lead 5 into the pot. And some guy moved all in for 32. I was faced with a big decision. I laid it down and he kindly showed me K J. But I am wondering. How many of you call in that spot?FWIW I fold. I don't like putting it all in there on a draw (even a fantastic draw), unless I'm in a tourney and the situation dictates it. I tend to be more of a conservative player, though. And I tend to suck as a cash game player......Tell you what, just disregard this post... Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey16 1 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I don't. Link to post Share on other sites
majorleag 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 1/2 NL in my local B & M. I am dealt J 2 in the BB. 3 limpers and I check.Flop comesQ 10 9 Beautiful flop for me. Or so I think. I lead 5 into the pot. And some guy moved all in for 32. I was faced with a big decision. I laid it down and he kindly showed me K J. But I am wondering. How many of you call in that spot?I fold it.Besides the fact that your hand is not made, and while Jack high flush is pretty solid if you catch the heart, you can easily still lose to an Ace, King, or Queen high flush.Yeah sometimes you win that one, but I think more often then not, it is a pretty good way to go broke. Link to post Share on other sites
Rokuban 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 1/2 NL in my local B & M. I am dealt J 2 in the BB. 3 limpers and I check.Flop comesQ 10 9 Beautiful flop for me. Or so I think. I lead 5 into the pot. And some guy moved all in for 32. I was faced with a big decision. I laid it down and he kindly showed me K J. But I am wondering. How many of you call in that spot?You're about 50% with 2 cards to come (you don't know he has KJ). Taking what's already in the pot into account, I call the all in. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I'm probably calling. Link to post Share on other sites
macphec 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I'll take my 15 outs twice and call for $32 Link to post Share on other sites
Socrates 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 1/2NL and you're leading into a the flop with $5...? WTF kind of game is this? He then moves in for $32 - I mean, most of the 1/2 gmaes I play in usually have a flop bet of around $20 or so if not more depending on preflop action. I'd call $32 in a 1/2 cash game in a heartbeat with that draw. I'm asuming this was a very weak table seeing he limped with KJ. Link to post Share on other sites
Ktiger48 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 i would lay it down and then take my chips to a real table. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerloser 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 "I" Call it, Open ended and a flush draw with 2 to go, for $32, run it baby. This table seams soft, 32 is close to a normal preflop raise in my 1/2 nl game at the Bike. If you can't call that with that draw, stop playing! Link to post Share on other sites
sholden 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 3 limpers plus the BB, so $8. Plus you $5 bet. Not sure if it's a $27 or a $32 raise, but I'll assume $32.So your calling $32 to win $50.Or maybe $27 to win $45.Even if he has KJ (which he did...) those odds aren't that far off (if he flashed the KJ you would fold though). Combine the almost what you need odds with the cases where he KK/AA/AQ/a set/a bluff, and it's a call. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Easy call, I mean come on. If you cant handle a raise with those cards just check call whenever you're on a draw. Link to post Share on other sites
Ottawa_Biatch 288 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 since he had king jack, id probably fold Link to post Share on other sites
Lil_Hellmuth 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Author Share Posted October 3, 2005 I wouldnt say that it was a soft table. I think that they play may be a lot slower than a lot of other casinos. Keep in mind though it is a buy in of 100 no more no less. This table was rather new...only been going 40 minutes or so. So no one had an abnormally large amount.As far as the 15 outs twice. Shouldnt you assumed that some of your outs are couterfited?In the case where he flashed KJ I am drawing to 3 kings and 9 hearts. 12 outs and the pot is not laying me that much. Link to post Share on other sites
Garn 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 i would def. call. too many outs and a good chance to win a decent size pot. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 "I" Call it, Open ended and a flush draw with 2 to go, for $32, run it baby. This table seams soft, 32 is close to a normal preflop raise in my 1/2 nl game at the Bike. If you can't call that with that draw, stop playing!exactly, 32 isnt much of a all in. so you were lucky.plus what did you expect by betting 5.00? hope to see a cheap turn? baaah comon, throw that money in and be like. whammie baby!! whammie!!!hit ur flush, then start running on the spot and splash your chips all over your neck and chest Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I wouldnt say that it was a soft table. I think that they play may be a lot slower than a lot of other casinos. Keep in mind though it is a buy in of 100 no more no less. really?? this sounds like poo poo mcmuffins to me, i've never heard of a cash table that only allows 1 exact buy in with no min-max.usually you should be able to buy in anywhere from 100 - 200 with 1/2 blinds. Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewBlack 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I wouldnt say that it was a soft table. I think that they play may be a lot slower than a lot of other casinos. Keep in mind though it is a buy in of 100 no more no less. This table was rather new...only been going 40 minutes or so. So no one had an abnormally large amount.As far as the 15 outs twice. Shouldnt you assumed that some of your outs are couterfited?In the case where he flashed KJ I am drawing to 3 kings and 9 hearts. 12 outs and the pot is not laying me that much.Alot of hands your up against there you don't have counterfitted outs ie AQ any set over pair, stone cold bluff. I would call thinking most of my 15 outs are live....its only 32$ Link to post Share on other sites
Ottawa_Biatch 288 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 32 can buy a lot these days Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewBlack 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 32 can buy a lot these daysNot even a tank of gas. Link to post Share on other sites
jack24bauer24 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 1/2 NL in my local B & M. I am dealt J 2 in the BB. 3 limpers and I check.Flop comesQ 10 9 Beautiful flop for me. Or so I think. I lead 5 into the pot. And some guy moved all in for 32. I was faced with a big decision. I laid it down and he kindly showed me K J. But I am wondering. How many of you call in that spot?If this is a beautiful flop for you, and you decide to bet 5 dollars, what were you planning on doing if raised? I look at the chip stacks of those around me, if someone is going to do the short stack all in, if they do would I call after I'd bet, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
FileError404 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I lead for at least $15 with that hand ...so I'm forced to call... Link to post Share on other sites
stealfromblind 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Raise. Link to post Share on other sites
kennyg1966 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 i would probably call it....32 is not a huge amount..BUT if you were to lose it you had to go home, no more money to buy in i might fold it . Link to post Share on other sites
Arkanoid 0 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I wouldnt say that it was a soft table. I think that they play may be a lot slower than a lot of other casinos. Keep in mind though it is a buy in of 100 no more no less. really?? this sounds like poo poo mcmuffins to me, i've never heard of a cash table that only allows 1 exact buy in with no min-max.usually you should be able to buy in anywhere from 100 - 200 with 1/2 blinds.Foxwoods, for one. They've never allowed a larger buy in for 1/2. Link to post Share on other sites
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