navybuttons 15 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 i'm getting nauseas. i gotta go lie down. Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 i'm getting nauseas. i gotta go lie down.Heh. I'm not really sure what was going to come out of that exercise anyway. But I'm usually around to talk LHE when you find a spare 5-10 minutes you intend to devote to the topic. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I was at a friends bday party yesterday, she put this on her playlist Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 It was a bad LHE week in the ATL. I'm pretty sure that I'm playing like shit. I've also been playing dozens of those horrid/soft double-or-nothing NLH S&G at the same time, which is probably hurting my play more than I know. I hate poker. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 It was a bad LHE week in the ATL. I'm pretty sure that I'm playing like shit. I've also been playing dozens of those horrid/soft double-or-nothing NLH S&G at the same time, which is probably hurting my play more than I know. I hate poker.take a break go get a transvestite midget hooker or something to cheer you up. Link to post Share on other sites
RabidTortuga 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I dropped 200 BB this week. See ya. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I dropped 200 BB this week. See ya.We suck. Let's quit poker and start a Techno band or something. We'll call ourselves...Onyx Debris. I'll still wear goggles and a yellow mesh shirt, even though it's not 1997, and all the English kids will call us posers. Sound awesome? Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 While FCP was down I set a new high for one day cash game wins:The rest of you guys should try to run good. I find it wins more money than playing well. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 live>online for this cat ainecToo bad I live 6 hrs from the best 15/30 25/50kill LHE game I've ever been exposed too. Think 2/4 LHE full ring on Party Poker circa 2003. I'm not kidding. I'd have done a check box thing to explain the BBV thing but I'm not a fag. no offense to the gays. Let me explain a hand that helps explain how brain dead some of the players are. I'm in MP with 77It folds to me and I raise to 30. the Button callsSB callsBB callsflop 7s8sQdSB checksBB checkshero bets 15button callsSB foldsBB raises to 30hero raises to 45button foldsBB callsturn 3cBB checkHero bets 30BB callsriver 8hBB checkshero bets 30BB calls while saying "i have a full house." He tables 87 and I smile while quietly mucking my sevens full. ummmmmmm, really?So only QQ and Q8 beats him and he just calls on the river. I would take the same line with AQ, over pair, random bluff, and sometimes over cards. It's like he hasn't watched me play on the occasional weekend for the past 6 months. I'd live at this table if I could. This game has killed my LHE online challenge. Playing 2/4 is a huge grind and I give up way too much of an edge playing online where I can't get reads on players because it's just a name and PT stats. Hope all's going well for the other LHE grinders. Deprived of my rail thread since FCP was down....I'll post the after shot here. This was last night....DinkDonk was there for me on IM though!nice job Bee-Radgeddy up Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 While FCP was down I set a new high for one day cash game wins:The rest of you guys should try to run good. I find it wins more money than playing well.I made that in an afternoon mowing lawns as a kid. Granted I billed it as "erotic landscaping," and performed unspeakable acts on my customers after the opening 30-minute glitter-bikinied mowing tease, but it was still a lot of money for a kid. Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I made that in an afternoon mowing lawns as a kid. Granted I billed it as "erotic landscaping," and performed unspeakable acts on my customers after the opening 30-minute glitter-bikinied mowing tease, but it was still a lot of money for a kid.What'd you buy with your hard-earned wages? Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 What'd you buy with your hard-earned wages?A reconstructive surgery, 8 years of therapy and a bunch of bubblegum packs. Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 A reconstructive surgery, 8 years of therapy and a bunch of bubblegum packs.Should have gone with baseball cards, like me. The market on those is going to bounce back any decade now and I'm going to make a killing. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Should have gone with baseball cards, like me. The market on those is going to bounce back any decade now and I'm going to make a killing. http://blog.pennlive.com/bethlehem/2008/07...y_goals_in.html Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 http://blog.pennlive.com/bethlehem/2008/07...y_goals_in.htmlYeah, I suspect that this jolts people back into the baseball card phenomenon and inflates the value of my collection tenfold. It's all coming together now. I'll quit poker within weeks and live off the Topps and Donruss gravy train. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Scam used to have a thread it the baseball forum about his collection that you might find interesting. I'd find it for you but I'm lazy.Also, I had a weird problem just a few minutes ago which I hadn't had in years: I was jacking off, and in the middle I realized I had to pee. Oh well, too late. But then afterwards, I was letting things sort of finish up, and I started to feel the call pretty intensely, to the point where it ruined the whole experience. Then when I tried to pee, it took forever to switch the A-B pluming back to A (piss mode), all the while feeling like my bladder was going to explode. I really need a second line down there or something. Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 there's a casino about 8 minutes from my house in berkeley that spreads a 30/60 game. it's really frustrating to play in that game. my brain doesn't process the information the same. i know the hole cards, board textures, etc. way better online. live, i have to take more time considering exactly what the spot is. i think about 7 hours was enough to get it out of my system for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Scam used to have a thread it the baseball forum about his collection that you might find interesting. I'd find it for you but I'm lazy.Also, I had a weird problem just a few minutes ago which I hadn't had in years: I was jacking off, and in the middle I realized I had to pee. Oh well, too late. But then afterwards, I was letting things sort of finish up, and I started to feel the call pretty intensely, to the point where it ruined the whole experience. Then when I tried to pee, it took forever to switch the A-B pluming back to A (piss mode), all the while feeling like my bladder was going to explode. I really need a second line down there or something.Yeah I saw Scram's thread a while back and it reminded me a bit of how much enjoyment I got out of the useless things as a kid, but I have almost no interest in them now and will probably give them to my nephew or something. They aren't worth shit anymore, so the effort of selling them isn't something I'm interested in.Pre-game piss is where it's at. I learned that lesson at like 14 and still pretty much always do so out of habit. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Pre-game piss is where it's at. I learned that lesson at like 14 and still pretty much always do so out of habit.I know, I know, but sometimes my ego gets in the way and I try to go renegaded. Also, sometimes it will just be a really epic session...like, if I'm search through near-infinite web archives, as opposed to my personal (still near-infinite) database, I sometimes just can't choose a girl(s). "What if the next one is hotter..." "what if the next scene is even more fucked-up..." I've been at it for a few hours at a time. Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Villain is 43/29/1.6 with a WTSD of 41% through ~5k hands. He is very tricky postflop and very aggressive preflop. He is a regular, but a losing one in my database and most likely not a large winner in general. What do we think? Simple turn bet? What do we do facing a turn C/R?PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $100.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is Button with Q , 9 2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero callsFlop: (7 SB) 9 , 5 , J (2 players)SB bets, Hero raises, SB callsTurn: (5.5 BB) K (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksRiver: (5.5 BB) 7 (2 players)SB bets, Hero callsTotal pot: $750 (7.5 BB) | Rake: $2 Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Villain is 43/29/1.6 with a WTSD of 41% through ~5k hands. He is very tricky postflop and very aggressive preflop. He is a regular, but a losing one in my database and most likely not a large winner in general. What do we think? Simple turn bet? What do we do facing a turn C/R?PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $100.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is Button with Q , 9 2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero callsFlop: (7 SB) 9 , 5 , J (2 players)SB bets, Hero raises, SB callsTurn: (5.5 BB) K (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksRiver: (5.5 BB) 7 (2 players)SB bets, Hero callsTotal pot: $750 (7.5 BB) | Rake: $2I like your line because the possible turn c/r scares me, but I'm not sure if that's correct. I guess it depends on how often he c/res as a bluff vs. how often he has KQ or something. I don't really know the answer, but intuitively I'm mostly playing this the same way. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Villain is 43/29/1.6 with a WTSD of 41% through ~5k hands. He is very tricky postflop and very aggressive preflop. He is a regular, but a losing one in my database and most likely not a large winner in general. What do we think? Simple turn bet? What do we do facing a turn C/R?PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $100.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is Button with Q , 9 2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero callsFlop: (7 SB) 9 , 5 , J (2 players)SB bets, Hero raises, SB callsTurn: (5.5 BB) K (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksRiver: (5.5 BB) 7 (2 players)SB bets, Hero callsTotal pot: $750 (7.5 BB) | Rake: $2i see this hand like this. when you raise him on the flop he doesn't go to three. you said he's tricky, so this doesn't do much to narrow his range.however, on the turn the board reads 95jk. now, on the flop of course he is betting 100% of the time, and he is going to call with almost all of his range. if you bet that turn a few things can happen1) he folds weaker parts of his range like gutshots to the 56789 straight.2) he c/r you with a hand that has beat, either on the flop already or from the king3) he c/r you with a straight draw that got added to a very large part of his range because of that king.if he c/r you, you can call his bet. but you have to fold the river UI since he will not be semi bluffing you enough. given the board texture, his aggressiveness preflop, and his trickiness postflop, i think this is a reasonable line to take. i do not think you should do this if you feel that you can take him to value town on all three streets with your pair of nines, but from your description of him i get the impression that you don't feel that way. his trickiness helps on the river here too, although im not sure what he thinks of you, the way you describe him he sounds like the type that will bet the river without looking at it if you check behind on the turn. so yea, everything seems to match the criteria for taking this line pretty well here. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Villain is 43/29/1.6 with a WTSD of 41% through ~5k hands. He is very tricky postflop and very aggressive preflop. He is a regular, but a losing one in my database and most likely not a large winner in general. What do we think? Simple turn bet? What do we do facing a turn C/R?PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $100.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is Button with Q , 9 2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero callsFlop: (7 SB) 9 , 5 , J (2 players)SB bets, Hero raises, SB callsTurn: (5.5 BB) K (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksRiver: (5.5 BB) 7 (2 players)SB bets, Hero callsTotal pot: $750 (7.5 BB) | Rake: $2ipits, almost all of the time. i can think of like 2 lag/trickies that i would pwn differently in this sort of spot .so, october: 200BB upswong, followed by a little breakeven stretch, then a 250BB downswong, then another breakeven stretch, and then a 150BB upswong. that still works out to a decent winrate, but not the gorgeous 13BB/100 it was at for the first week in oct. :(then i was robbed.i got exhausted and have chosen to take 4 days off while drinking myself retarded. Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Wow I thought you guys were all going to tell me I played it bad. I reallllly wanted to bet the turn here, but my problem is that I think this guy is going to balance pretty well on the turn by c/r bluffing, c/r for value, c/c, and c/f and make it really difficult for me to play well vs. his range. I don't hate my line, but I just feel that there has to be something better I can do. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Wow I thought you guys were all going to tell me I played it bad. I reallllly wanted to bet the turn here, but my problem is that I think this guy is going to balance pretty well on the turn by c/r bluffing, c/r for value, c/c, and c/f and make it really difficult for me to play well vs. his range. I don't hate my line, but I just feel that there has to be something better I can do.if you think he is going to balance that well, which is what i thought you were getting at, then the correct thing to do is play it how you did. Link to post Share on other sites
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