Wizzy 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ok - I really don't care about poker at all.But there's one guy who baffles me. I have watched those poker games on ESPN, and I'm currently watching one now.Daniel seems to always know what his opponent has. I'm completely baffled how he does it... And he even explains it to the person. I've watched two hands he was involved in now, where he knew EXACTLY what the guy had. He even called it out loud... He just tells him - "two Aces, huh?" when the guy makes his call.Just now some young guy raises after all the cards have been placed down (the 5 cards), and Daniel looks funny at him and laughs and says "pocket 4's or 6's? Which one?". The kid just stares at him like he's clueless - but he does indeed have 4's... He's absolutely insane with that. I'll watch him tell the whole table exactly what the guy it doing, and call his cards - and he knows whether to fold or not every single time...I'm just baffled at how he can read people so well. Link to post Share on other sites
freak2304 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 well, if you ask Phil Gordon, it's all done in the editing. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerfriendly 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ok - I really don't care about poker at all.But there's one guy who baffles me. I have watched those poker games on ESPN, and I'm currently watching one now.Daniel seems to always know what his opponent has. I'm completely baffled how he does it... And he even explains it to the person. I've watched two hands he was involved in now, where he knew EXACTLY what the guy had. He even called it out loud... He just tells him - "two Aces, huh?" when the guy makes his call.Just now some young guy raises after all the cards have been placed down (the 5 cards), and Daniel looks funny at him and laughs and says "pocket 4's or 6's? Which one?". The kid just stares at him like he's clueless - but he does indeed have 4's... He's absolutely insane with that. I'll watch him tell the whole table exactly what the guy it doing, and call his cards - and he knows whether to fold or not every single time...I'm just baffled at how he can read people so well.I do that all the time !! Link to post Share on other sites
Livaso 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Poker players are just as impressed for the most part.Some things a lot of players can do. There's only a handful of hands a player would make that particular bet with on that particular board etc. A lot of the reads Daniel makes are random though and quite impressive. Link to post Share on other sites
DCJ001 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I'll watch him tell the whole table exactly what the guy it doing, and call his cards - and he knows whether to fold or not every single time...But, even if he knows that he should fold, he doesn't always fold when he should. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ok - I really don't care about poker at all.But there's one guy who baffles me. I have watched those poker games on ESPN, and I'm currently watching one now.Daniel seems to always know what his opponent has. I'm completely baffled how he does it... And he even explains it to the person. I've watched two hands he was involved in now, where he knew EXACTLY what the guy had. He even called it out loud... He just tells him - "two Aces, huh?" when the guy makes his call.Just now some young guy raises after all the cards have been placed down (the 5 cards), and Daniel looks funny at him and laughs and says "pocket 4's or 6's? Which one?". The kid just stares at him like he's clueless - but he does indeed have 4's... He's absolutely insane with that. I'll watch him tell the whole table exactly what the guy it doing, and call his cards - and he knows whether to fold or not every single time...I'm just baffled at how he can read people so well.I'm just baffled at why someone who doesn't care about poker at all whould watch a poker show on tv, become interested in a particular player, do an internet search on that player, and then join the player's poker forum to ask questions. Just sayin' Link to post Share on other sites
Wizzy 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 I'm just baffled at why someone who doesn't care about poker at all whould watch a poker show on tv, become interested in a particular player, do an internet search on that player, and then join the player's poker forum to ask questions. Just sayin'Because I don't watch TV to watch TV. I turn the TV on and ESPN is on, so I leave it. I just have it on in the background when I'm doing other stuff.And errr... Asking questions is how you learn stuff. I may not care much about poker. But I am interested in how this guy is so gifted in reading cards so well. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Because I don't watch TV to watch TV. I turn the TV on and ESPN is on, so I leave it. I just have it on in the background when I'm doing other stuff.And errr... Asking questions is how you learn stuff. I may not care much about poker. But I am interested in how this guy is so gifted in reading cards so well.He's a robot. Link to post Share on other sites
ObeyTheDog 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I knew someone would be a jackass and insult the OP. I think it was an honest question and he's taking an interest in what most of us love and some of us do for a living, and unless there's some hidden agenda or spam, I think a little courtesy would be nice from time to time.I know, I know, GFMyself Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Two things really:1) Daniel is a very talkative player at the table, and he likes to talk through hands as they're in progress. ESPN doesn't show every hand, and it would make sense that they choose to show those hands during which he guesses the opponent's hand exactly. Obviously if he could really guess his opponent's hand exactly every time, he'd never lose a tournament. I'm not saying that it's all in the editing, but that certainly adds to it.2) Daniel is a very gifted and very experienced player. He has a ton of live experience and always claims that among his strongest points as a player is his ability to read others. When he's focused, he has an uncanny ability to play out every aspect of a hand, analyze what players do and why, think about what they have done in the past, think about what he would do in a particular situation, etc. He adds up all of these factors and is often able to narrow down quite well an opponent’s holdings under certain circumstances.So, it's a combination really of his amazing reading abilities and some selective editing, in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
booyaga 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ok - I really don't care about poker at all.But there's one guy who baffles me. I have watched those poker games on ESPN, and I'm currently watching one now.Daniel seems to always know what his opponent has. I'm completely baffled how he does it... And he even explains it to the person. I've watched two hands he was involved in now, where he knew EXACTLY what the guy had. He even called it out loud... He just tells him - "two Aces, huh?" when the guy makes his call.Just now some young guy raises after all the cards have been placed down (the 5 cards), and Daniel looks funny at him and laughs and says "pocket 4's or 6's? Which one?". The kid just stares at him like he's clueless - but he does indeed have 4's... He's absolutely insane with that. I'll watch him tell the whole table exactly what the guy it doing, and call his cards - and he knows whether to fold or not every single time...I'm just baffled at how he can read people so well.well...when you see him wear headphones....he's not really listening to his ipod...he's actually getting the cards told to him by norman chad in the backroom Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 He's a robot.More accurately he's the cybernetic chicken of christmas past from the future. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 More accurately he's the cybernetic chicken of christmas past from the future.THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO... Link to post Share on other sites
ramenandeggs 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 i think he was more accurately identified as an alien in the 2006 wsop TOC. newbs. Link to post Share on other sites
Billy 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I knew someone would be a jackass and insult the OP. I think it was an honest question and he's taking an interest in what most of us love and some of us do for a living, and unless there's some hidden agenda or spam, I think a little courtesy would be nice from time to time.I completely agree. Link to post Share on other sites
Lynbrook 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I completely agree.I actually thought it would be much worse than this to be honest. I figured we'd see at least one, "Who is this person you're talking about?" by now. Link to post Share on other sites
iveyfan30 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 dn is miss cleo....i mean have u ever seen them both in the same room at the same time... Link to post Share on other sites
themainevent 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I'm just baffled at why someone who doesn't care about poker at all whould watch a poker show on tv, become interested in a particular player, do an internet search on that player, and then join the player's poker forum to ask questions. Just sayin'haha are you insecure?? do you feel sad when people say they dont care about your beloved hobby...."just sayin"-- grow up you loser Link to post Share on other sites
167-169 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Ok - I really don't care about poker at all.But there's one guy who baffles me. I have watched those poker games on ESPN, and I'm currently watching one now.Daniel seems to always know what his opponent has. I'm completely baffled how he does it... And he even explains it to the person. I've watched two hands he was involved in now, where he knew EXACTLY what the guy had. He even called it out loud... He just tells him - "two Aces, huh?" when the guy makes his call.Just now some young guy raises after all the cards have been placed down (the 5 cards), and Daniel looks funny at him and laughs and says "pocket 4's or 6's? Which one?". The kid just stares at him like he's clueless - but he does indeed have 4's... He's absolutely insane with that. I'll watch him tell the whole table exactly what the guy it doing, and call his cards - and he knows whether to fold or not every single time...I'm just baffled at how he can read people so well.That hand wasn't that difficult. Pretty easy to put the kid on a set there.The impressive hands are when he floats and takes the pot on the turn with nothing. Couple good hands on Poker at the Plaza show, he played one real good against Gavin. Gavin put out a blocker on the turn and DN read him perfect as semi weak, popped it and took it down. That was pure poker. Link to post Share on other sites
AcesUp46 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 For every hand that DN guesses right, we don't get to see the 3 or 4 where he makes a wrong guess. I do that all the time when playing live 2/4 and pretend that I can make Hellmuthian reads and laydowns. Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 haha are you insecure?? do you feel sad when people say they dont care about your beloved hobby...."just sayin"-- grow up you loserExcuse me ?Why would I feel sad if someone doesn't share my hobby ? I was just pointing out that he denies any interest in poker, but is showing some interest in poker. Maybe that went over your head ? Like the fact that you are telling me to grow up, when my signature states "growing older, but not up." You seem to miss a lot. Just sayin' Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I knew someone would be a jackass and insult the OP. I think it was an honest question and he's taking an interest in what most of us love and some of us do for a living, and unless there's some hidden agenda or spam, I think a little courtesy would be nice from time to time.I know, I know, GFMyselfRather ironic that you were the first poster in here to be outright rude.You also might want to reread OP's post. He doesn't actually ask a question. Link to post Share on other sites
qyayqi 11 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 i saw a guy nail the cards while watching High Stakes Poker. he had only watched the episode 3 or 4 times, so it was pretty pro. Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I do that all the time when playing live 2/4 and pretend that I can make Hellmuthian reads and laydowns. 'Hellmuthian reads'!! Looool... for some reason that is super funny to me. I will try to remember that next time I have a home game. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 They have shown hands on television where I've been wrong. It's not the editing, despite what others may think. When I call out an opponents hand it's usually only in cases where I have a very strong read. Like the 44's or 66's, that one was EASY. In an upcoming WPT episode you'll see me make a call with Ace high, despite telling the guy that I "know" he has three queens... he didn't have three queens, and I didn't REALLY think that, but I was trying to get a read. He actually had squat and I won the pot with ace high. Link to post Share on other sites
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