$100,000-200,000 limit holdem beal at wynn

[MikeJohnson724 0]

I was at Wynn last night playing. I got there a bit after the game broke up, I think. One of our dealers mentioned he'd dealt the game the previous night (against Brunson) and was actually surprised by how little raising there had been during his down. He didn't have much specific info and I certainly wasn't going to press him. Besides, having played with many dealers who are off-shift, I don't generally consider them real authorities on proper/optimal play.

What limit were you playing?

[SuitedAces21 2,723]

THAT is why he plays as well or better than the top high stakes players.Imagine that I dedicated myself to having the best tennis serve in the world - Assuming I have good physical abilities (and Beal surely is intelligent enough to play poker at a high level), eventually I would have a serve as good as the very best of the pros.

You sir, are retarded. :wink:

[pmk-one 0]

Imagine that I dedicated myself to having the best tennis serve in the world - that's all I practiced. I didn't volley, I didn't hit any groundstrokes, and I didn't run around the court at all. I just worked on my serve.Assuming I have good physical abilities (and Beal surely is intelligent enough to play poker at a high level), eventually I would have a serve as good as the very best of the pros.

NO chance. This is nonsense

[yeffy 0]

Get Ivey in the game, he wouldn't blink at the stakes. The ice in his veins may melt and allow the blood to flow for once.

Last time they played Ivey was the one most affected by the large stakes.

No.Good luck.

See above post. Ivey refused to play in May '03 when the stakes went up.Good Luck.

[yeffy 0]

Oh and game is on.Ted Forest and Beal just sat down.

[blueodum 0]

NO chance. This is nonsenseYou have no idea what you are talking about. Good luck.You sir, are retarded. WinkYou have even less idea what you are talking about. Good luck.

[bcook823 0]

Get Ivey in the game, he wouldn't blink at the stakes. The ice in his veins may melt and allow the blood to flow for once.

Last time they played Ivey was the one most affected by the large stakes.

I am not sure where you got that, because it doesn't say that in the copy of the book that I bought (assuming your getting information about the last time they played from the book)

I'm not sure you can say difinitively that he was "affected by the large stakes" but it is in the book that he refused to play when the stakes went up to either $50K-$100K or $100K-$200K whichever they were at at the time.Check page 231.

Not playing and being affected by playing are two different things.

[yeffy 0]

Get Ivey in the game, he wouldn't blink at the stakes. The ice in his veins may melt and allow the blood to flow for once.

Last time they played Ivey was the one most affected by the large stakes.

I am not sure where you got that, because it doesn't say that in the copy of the book that I bought (assuming your getting information about the last time they played from the book)

I'm not sure you can say difinitively that he was "affected by the large stakes" but it is in the book that he refused to play when the stakes went up to either $50K-$100K or $100K-$200K whichever they were at at the time.Check page 231.

Not playing and being affected by playing are two different things.

Well he couldn't be "affected by playing" because he refused to play when the stakes went up.

[Hobbes 1]

The book implies that Ivey did not want to play at those stakes. Nobody really knows why he said no when they asked him. Which is more likely: that he wasn't confident in his skills in heads up limit or that the stakes made him nervous or that he wasn't comfortable playing with other people's money (but then why would he be in the corp?)? I couldn't really say. But, later on the book also implies that part of the reason he eventually did sit down against Beal was to quiet the talk that he was afraid to play at those stakes.

[DanielNegreanu 141]

Y'all are hearing some crazy nonsense. Ivey would play $1,000,000-$2,000,000 with a $50,000,000 bankroll. He ain't scared of nothing.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Y'all are hearing some crazy nonsense. Ivey would play $1,000,000-$2,000,000 with a $50,000,000 bankroll. He ain't scared of nothing.

End of discussion.

[MikeJohnson724 0]

Y'all are hearing some crazy nonsense. Ivey would play $1,000,000-$2,000,000 with a $50,000,000 bankroll. He ain't scared of nothing.

He ain't scared of nothing, in other words he is scared of something? Double negatives cancel eachother out.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

Y'all are hearing some crazy nonsense. Ivey would play $1,000,000-$2,000,000 with a $50,000,000 bankroll. He ain't scared of nothing.

What the hell do you know?

[deviper 0]

Y'all are hearing some crazy nonsense. Ivey would play $1,000,000-$2,000,000 with a $50,000,000 bankroll. He ain't scared of nothing.

this should shut them up.

[Ryan Rizice 0]

From watching 200/400 and higher online, it seems to me that the corp is def gambling a little by only having 100bb. i mean, hu swings are huge

[yeffy 0]

Y'all are hearing some crazy nonsense. Ivey would play $1,000,000-$2,000,000 with a $50,000,000 bankroll. He ain't scared of nothing.

I understand that now Daniel. But this was back in May of 2003. What was his bankroll/attitude back then? The things I said came from the book, it doesn't say why he wouldn't play...just that he wouldn't play.

[Nugzy 0]

Daniels crazy, he dont know nothing! J/K.

[realdeal515 0]

Get Ivey in the game, he wouldn't blink at the stakes. The ice in his veins may melt and allow the blood to flow for once.

Last time they played Ivey was the one most affected by the large stakes.

I am not sure where you got that, because it doesn't say that in the copy of the book that I bought (assuming your getting information about the last time they played from the book)

I'm not sure you can say difinitively that he was "affected by the large stakes" but it is in the book that he refused to play when the stakes went up to either $50K-$100K or $100K-$200K whichever they were at at the time.Check page 231.

Not playing and being affected by playing are two different things.

Well he couldn't be "affected by playing" because he refused to play when the stakes went up.

I think they all refused to play him at those stakes ?I know this most recent session those are the stakes he wanted to start with 100 200kThe corp wouldn't do it and wanted to start 30 60 and they setteled on 50 100My point is i don't think if ivy wouldn't play him at those stakes it was entirely his choice, but what do i know

[yeffy 0]

I think they all refused to play him at those stakes ?I know this most recent session those are the stakes he wanted to start with 100 200kThe corp wouldn't do it and wanted to start 30 60 and they setteled on 50 100My point is i don't think if ivy wouldn't play him at those stakes it was entirely his choice, but what do i know

Read the book. Ivey was asked to play $50K-$100K he said no (for whatever reason). Jennifer had to get up early and play him.They played $50K-$100K and $100K-$200K before, those have been the highest stakes they've played.

[realdeal515 0]

I think they all refused to play him at those stakes ?I know this most recent session those are the stakes he wanted to start with 100 200kThe corp wouldn't do it and wanted to start 30 60 and they setteled on 50 100My point is i don't think if ivy wouldn't play him at those stakes it was entirely his choice, but what do i know

Read the book. Ivey was asked to play $50K-$100K he said no (for whatever reason). Jennifer had to get up early and play him.They played $50K-$100K and $100K-$200K before, those have been the highest stakes they've played.

I haven't read the book but i do know from what ive read that the pros don't wan't to play him at those levels, so all im sayin is im sure he wasn't afraid maybe he just didn't think it was +EV

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

I think they all refused to play him at those stakes ?I know this most recent session those are the stakes he wanted to start with 100 200kThe corp wouldn't do it and wanted to start 30 60 and they setteled on 50 100My point is i don't think if ivy wouldn't play him at those stakes it was entirely his choice, but what do i know

Read the book. Ivey was asked to play $50K-$100K he said no (for whatever reason). Jennifer had to get up early and play him.They played $50K-$100K and $100K-$200K before, those have been the highest stakes they've played.

I don't know the man so this is pure speculation.He's a poker player. He views it as a kill or be killed sport. He plays for himself and nobody else. He doesn't care if he goes broke, but he doesn't want the added responsibility of a team counting on him. I'd bet good money that this is the exact reason why he didn't play.He is and always has been plenty confident in his ability.I've read the book as well.

[MikeJohnson724 0]

I agree with Ron 99.65%. Alright that's it, I am done agreeing with him.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

I agree with Ron 99.65%. Alright that's it, I am done agreeing with him.

On this one, I'll give you that.

[yeffy 0]

I think they all refused to play him at those stakes ?I know this most recent session those are the stakes he wanted to start with 100 200kThe corp wouldn't do it and wanted to start 30 60 and they setteled on 50 100My point is i don't think if ivy wouldn't play him at those stakes it was entirely his choice, but what do i know

Read the book. Ivey was asked to play $50K-$100K he said no (for whatever reason). Jennifer had to get up early and play him.They played $50K-$100K and $100K-$200K before, those have been the highest stakes they've played.

I haven't read the book but i do know from what ive read that the pros don't wan't to play him at those levels, so all im sayin is im sure he wasn't afraid maybe he just didn't think it was +EV

They have played those stakes against him before.They were trying to start lower because Andy has a history of lobbying for raising the stakes when he gets stuck. They try to accomodate him because they want his action. They want to start lower to leave room for the stakes to go up. If Andy did get stuck $10 mil they would possibly jump up to $100K-$200K but if they started there where do you go with their bankroll?

[MikeJohnson724 0]

From Bluff

well I don't know the pot sizes but according to Jennifer Harman Andy just flopped 2 full houses.