yeffy 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Just a couple thoughts:1. I've seen a few people say that AB's really been working on his game. I don't doubt that at all, but how does a guy like that work on his game? He's already read a few books and decided they weren't worth his time. He's not going to jump into a $500/$1000 game online as that's not worth his time either. I suppose he could review some tape of the Corp playing in televised games and that might help a bit. But how could you simulate the kind of action they're playing for on your own?2. The casino is not making much on this at all, aside from the avalanche of publicity (which is of great value to them). At least Bellagio didn't. I don't have the book in front of me, but I believe they would be playing for a time charge, not a rake. And I think it was something like $100/hour. I'm sure someone will correct me if that's wrong.Reread the book. There is an incredible amount of information in it on how he prepared. He played heads up matches simulating the condtions in his office with a variety of people. He even had Gabe Kaplan come to Texas and play him as well as many hours played against his assistant. Link to post Share on other sites
yeffy 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Found this chat from Fulltilt last night on another site. I can't verify but it sounds like the way Jennifer chats on there.shanekeating (Observer): awesomewharnew: tJennifer Harman: first time for about 1 1/2 yearsJDjos: andy beal?Jennifer Harman: yes andy bealshanekeating (Observer): good luck with thatJennifer Harman: thanks hope we do goodJDjos: how big a game?Jennifer Harman: 50-100shanekeating (Observer): yikesJDjos: nl?Jennifer Harman: nl limitJDjos: or 50k/100kJennifer Harman: yes k is on the end of that limitJennifer Harman: it's limit not no limitshanekeating (Observer): only heads up again?Jennifer Harman: yes only heads upshanekeating (Observer): pretty much the samegroup of pros?Jennifer Harman: yes and a few moreJDjos: 5 million dollar swings like nothingwharnew: ddJennifer Harman: yeah it's a big gamePGA200X (Observer): Hey jen your avartar lookslike you. Almsot all the others arent close!JDjos: im gonna jump out of my window..brbshanekeating (Observer): if i may ask, who are thenew ones?Jennifer Harman: I dont think you would knowthem. They play 2K and higher at the Bellagio butthey don't play many tournamentsBearski1919 (Observer): Jennifer, can you showus your emotions, please?Jennifer Harman: theres always a chance it mightnot go thoughshanekeating (Observer): yeah i suppose there isthat chanceGoBucksIndy (Observer): hahaha... the frown issweetBearski1919 (Observer): thanks, lolJennifer Harman: were playing for sure thoughshanekeating (Observer): cool, that has to benerve wrackingRileysdad (Observer): sup jenJennifer Harman: hi rileyRileysdad (Observer): u'r my favorite playerJennifer Harman: it's kind of tense cause it's out ofthe normJennifer Harman: thanks rileyshanekeating (Observer): which is what andywants, right?Jennifer Harman: yes it's what Andy wantsJennifer Harman: be right back Link to post Share on other sites
Silly_11 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'd like to have the rake from that game. Man' date=' that'd be sweet.[/quote']Too bad there is a $3 max...Don't knock the rake that I want. Let's just think about it... 3 bucks rake for HU HE ... now let's assume that most hands are capped....that's 3 bucks quite often. you add that up.... man I could play .25/.50 for quite a while with that. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Has there been any confirmation as to whether DN is involved in this? Link to post Share on other sites
JBradburn6 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Barry Greenstein has gone on record saying that "The Corporation" probably has at most a 2% edge.Thats good enough for the casinos to make millions!In the long run...but they're only playing 3 days. Link to post Share on other sites
Smokewagons 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Has there been any confirmation as to whether DN is involved in this?He said he wasn't a few pages ago Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbes 1 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Has there been any confirmation as to whether DN is involved in this? I was asked to be a part of the Corporation, but declined. I'm just not very comfortable risking large sums of money on things that I don't have personal control over. I'd be comfortable with certain players playing Andy, but there are other specific players whom I think play heads up limit hold'em terribly and Andy might be better fundamentally.It's in this very thread. Link to post Share on other sites
JBradburn6 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Has there been any confirmation as to whether DN is involved in this?He's not. I'm pretty sure he posted it in this thread... Link to post Share on other sites
PMJackson21 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Has there been any confirmation as to whether DN is involved in this? I was asked to be a part of the Corporation, but declined. I'm just not very comfortable risking large sums of money on things that I don't have personal control over. I'd be comfortable with certain players playing Andy, but there are other specific players whom I think play heads up limit hold'em terribly and Andy might be better fundamentally. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Has there been any confirmation as to whether DN is involved in this?you get your answer? Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Thanks, my compter kept freezing when I tried to read the thread, so i just asked instead. Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Has there been any confirmation as to whether DN is involved in this? I was asked to be a part of the Corporation, but declined. I'm just not very comfortable risking large sums of money on things that I don't have personal control over. I'd be comfortable with certain players playing Andy, but there are other specific players whom I think play heads up limit hold'em terribly and Andy might be better fundamentally. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 blah blah blahhey, where have you been all day? there's been some prime flaming opportunities that you've missed out on. Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 blah blah blahhey, where have you been all day? there's been some prime flaming opportunities that you've missed out on.Work is killing me.... I will try to get a few shots in while on lunch.. Link to post Share on other sites
yeffy 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 According to the Bluff thread:http://www.bluffmagazine.com/forum/forum_p...2550&PN=1&TPN=4They're back and it's on. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 blah blah blahhey, where have you been all day? there's been some prime flaming opportunities that you've missed out on.Work is killing me.... I will try to get a few shots in while on lunch..good, good, try your bestbtw I think my clever quoting is rather commendable. I laughed at myself. Link to post Share on other sites
PA32R 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Because of all the idiotic threads created about the "big game" and all the random comments about the book, i've pretty much refused to read it.The more you guys talk about it the more I'm thinking I want to read it. Anybody not enjoy the book?No, I failed to not enjoy the book. Link to post Share on other sites
Silly_11 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 No, I failed to not enjoy the book.Don't give up! you may still succeed Link to post Share on other sites
milbucksfans 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Just a couple thoughts:1. I've seen a few people say that AB's really been working on his game. I don't doubt that at all, but how does a guy like that work on his game? He's already read a few books and decided they weren't worth his time. He's not going to jump into a $500/$1000 game online as that's not worth his time either. I suppose he could review some tape of the Corp playing in televised games and that might help a bit. But how could you simulate the kind of action they're playing for on your own?2. The casino is not making much on this at all, aside from the avalanche of publicity (which is of great value to them). At least Bellagio didn't. I don't have the book in front of me, but I believe they would be playing for a time charge, not a rake. And I think it was something like $100/hour. I'm sure someone will correct me if that's wrong.Their are ways to improve your holdem game by doing things other then reading books. Also i'd last time to prepare he played 100$ freezeouts with an employee. So I think he can play seriously for any amount of $ if he is putting his mind to it and doing it to better prepare himself for the heads up battles in vegas.No kidding Slick. Didn't I name a few of them above? Obviously I should finish the book, as I'm only partway through it right now, and a subsequent poster mentioned several ways he prepared are revealed later. But where did I say anything about books being the only way to improve? Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Just a couple thoughts:1. I've seen a few people say that AB's really been working on his game. I don't doubt that at all, but how does a guy like that work on his game? He's already read a few books and decided they weren't worth his time. He's not going to jump into a $500/$1000 game online as that's not worth his time either. I suppose he could review some tape of the Corp playing in televised games and that might help a bit. But how could you simulate the kind of action they're playing for on your own?2. The casino is not making much on this at all, aside from the avalanche of publicity (which is of great value to them). At least Bellagio didn't. I don't have the book in front of me, but I believe they would be playing for a time charge, not a rake. And I think it was something like $100/hour. I'm sure someone will correct me if that's wrong.Their are ways to improve your holdem game by doing things other then reading books. Also i'd last time to prepare he played 100$ freezeouts with an employee. So I think he can play seriously for any amount of $ if he is putting his mind to it and doing it to better prepare himself for the heads up battles in vegas.No kidding Slick. Didn't I name a few of them above? Obviously I should finish the book, as I'm only partway through it right now, and a subsequent poster mentioned several ways he prepared are revealed later. But where did I say anything about books being the only way to improve?Well you said hes not going to play limit HU for lower limits which is completely incorrect considering the fact that last time he prepared by playing 100$ freezeouts and analyzing his play during these matchups. Link to post Share on other sites
milbucksfans 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Just a couple thoughts:1. I've seen a few people say that AB's really been working on his game. I don't doubt that at all, but how does a guy like that work on his game? He's already read a few books and decided they weren't worth his time. He's not going to jump into a $500/$1000 game online as that's not worth his time either. I suppose he could review some tape of the Corp playing in televised games and that might help a bit. But how could you simulate the kind of action they're playing for on your own?2. The casino is not making much on this at all, aside from the avalanche of publicity (which is of great value to them). At least Bellagio didn't. I don't have the book in front of me, but I believe they would be playing for a time charge, not a rake. And I think it was something like $100/hour. I'm sure someone will correct me if that's wrong.Their are ways to improve your holdem game by doing things other then reading books. Also i'd last time to prepare he played 100$ freezeouts with an employee. So I think he can play seriously for any amount of $ if he is putting his mind to it and doing it to better prepare himself for the heads up battles in vegas.No kidding Slick. Didn't I name a few of them above? Obviously I should finish the book, as I'm only partway through it right now, and a subsequent poster mentioned several ways he prepared are revealed later. But where did I say anything about books being the only way to improve?Well you said hes not going to play limit HU for lower limits which is completely incorrect considering the fact that last time he prepared by playing 100$ freezeouts and analyzing his play during these matchups.No, I said he's not going to play limit online. Re-read my post. I wasn't trying to predict what he was going to do. What does that have to do with your comment about reading books anyway? Link to post Share on other sites
reedmcneal 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 According to bluff Beal and Harman have reached their first break with no major amount of money changing hands.http://www.bluffmagazine.com/forum/forum_p...2550&PN=1&TPN=7 Link to post Share on other sites
denren 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 i would form a corporation of low limit party poker players. my dream team corporation would chase gut shots and pair draws and confuse beal and we'd win billions! Link to post Share on other sites
yeffy 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 i would form a corporation of low limit party poker players. my dream team corporation would chase gut shots and pair draws and confuse beal and we'd win billions!Unfortunately Beal plays heavily using game theory so he's unconfusable. One of the reasons he fairs so well against the corp. Link to post Share on other sites
deviper 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I hope Jen can turn it around and clean beal out of the 10mil today. Link to post Share on other sites
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