Chaserjim 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Hi , I wont go much into myself, other then Im 25, I play alot of poker in Denver,CO. I play alot in some clubs, and some in the casino. I dont like online too much. Im looking to spend a week with a pro player, who would be interested in going over my game and such. The game: NL holdemWhere: tbdWhen: tbd M-F (8 hours a day)Offering 5k for whomever wants to go over some of the finer points of the game with me. Ive read every hold'em book thats been recommended.Im willing to fly to the desired city, as picked by the instructor. $5,000.00 is my offer, to spend 8 hours a day, Mon-Fri , analyzing my own game, and teaching me. Please email me @ Chaserjim@yahoo.com or post reply here in how I can get in touch with you. Link to post Share on other sites
dna4ever 2 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I was going to say something silly, but I think you are very serious and I hope you get your moneys worth. With that being said I can feel better about saying, you checked out Camp Hellmuth yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Chaserjim 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 I was going to say something silly, but I think you are very serious and I hope you get your moneys worth. Â Â With that being said I can feel better about saying, you checked out Camp Hellmuth yet? Â lol yea man, im tryin to be serious here. I think it would be awesome to spend a week with a pro, pick his brain and have him analyze me . I was a former Chess champ, and thats how I got good at chess, having someone better then me analyze me and critique my play. Hopefully I get my moneys worth :)and FK hellmuth lol Link to post Share on other sites
ziggy587 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Good luck finding a legitimate pro that a) can devote a full 40 hr week to you and B) is willing to do so for only a buck and a qtr an hour. You would have to pay a good shrink $250 hr. Link to post Share on other sites
Chaserjim 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 Good luck finding a legitimate pro that a) can devote a full 40 hr week to you and B) is willing to do so for only a buck and a qtr an hour. Â You would have to pay a good shrink $250 hr.Well I figure, these poker camps arent good enough. Theres not enough 1 on 1 teaching that goes on...Secondly , 125$ dollars an hour ... I think that's decent ... 1 weeks worth of work , if you can call it that .... for half an entry fee to the WSOP main event ... hmm Link to post Share on other sites
Heyou!!! 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 You want a pro to spend 8 hours a day with you for only 5K,LOL!!?? damn !!You r kiddin right??? :shock: :shock: Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 As much as I could use 5 G's, all I could teach you is how to lose your bankroll, then tear down drywall with your fists. Good luck though... Link to post Share on other sites
Sushiman 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I doubt this will interest anyone other than some 5th tier pro. I heard people were very impressed with the Howard Lederer camp. I think some decent time with first rate pros is better than having some hack follow u around for a week. Link to post Share on other sites
halvey7 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Try Dutch Boyd, he'd probably be willing to accept your terms. Just a thought. Link to post Share on other sites
Chaserjim 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 I doubt this will interest anyone other than some 5th tier pro. I heard people were very impressed with the Howard Lederer camp. I think some decent time with first rate pros is better than having some hack follow u around for a week.Your acting like these pro players , are some degree'd professionals , who commands 10,000.00 for a week worth of playing a game. Sit and think on that for a sec ... Secondly, yea ok ... maybe my post deserves a flame or two ... but this was meant in all seriousness. Not to insult any "1st tier" pro's by giving them 5 thousand dollars. I just have a drive to learn, and im puttin my bait out there seein if anyone will bite ... For christ sakes people .... Link to post Share on other sites
Sushiman 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Try Dutch Boyd, he'd probably be willing to accept your terms. Â Just a thought.Then he'll teach you to have a mental breakdown, get distanced from all your friends, and post about making out with some niave girl on your livejournal. Oh and maybe some chip tricks. Link to post Share on other sites
jooka 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Josh Arieh is doing some sort of school in atlanta perhaps he could devote some one on one time to you. cant think of anyone else really. GL tho. Link to post Share on other sites
FileError404 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I recommend calling Roy West. If he can't help with your specific goals he can probably recommend someone. Get ready for Vegas!1.800.548.6177 ext. 03Best of luck! Link to post Share on other sites
s_dogg 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Yeah, Josh's camp is only $210 for 3 hours. You might contact him with your offer and see what he says. Link to post Share on other sites
Sushiman 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I doubt this will interest anyone other than some 5th tier pro. I heard people were very impressed with the Howard Lederer camp. I think some decent time with first rate pros is better than having some hack follow u around for a week.Your acting like these pro players , are some degree'd professionals , who commands 10,000.00 for a week worth of playing a game. Sit and think on that for a sec ... Secondly, yea ok ... maybe my post deserves a flame or two ... but this was meant in all seriousness. Not to insult any "1st tier" pro's by giving them 5 thousand dollars. I just have a drive to learn, and im puttin my bait out there seein if anyone will bite ... For christ sakes people ....I'm not flaming your post. I'm just saying it's unrealistic. Poker pros are a commodity now, and they get paid money to play poker on certain sites, to endorse products, to appear at events, to put thier names on books, etc...... So yes, in all respects they are indeed professionals and their time is indeed worth a lot of money. I know you seriously want to learn but this might be like trying to buy a new car and ending up with a 5th hand model. Link to post Share on other sites
DeNuts1 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I doubt this will interest anyone other than some 5th tier pro. I heard people were very impressed with the Howard Lederer camp. I think some decent time with first rate pros is better than having some hack follow u around for a week.Your acting like these pro players , are some degree'd professionals , who commands 10,000.00 for a week worth of playing a game. Sit and think on that for a sec ... Secondly, yea ok ... maybe my post deserves a flame or two ... but this was meant in all seriousness. Not to insult any "1st tier" pro's by giving them 5 thousand dollars. I just have a drive to learn, and im puttin my bait out there seein if anyone will bite ... For christ sakes people ....You gotta realize anything posted on here like this is gonna be flamed like hell. I don't think he necessarily needs a "1st tier" pro to help him. You just need someone who has been moderately more successful than yourself to help. Now you may not want to pay them $125 an hour but....you should be able to find someone who can help your game if your willing to pay up to 5K. JMHO. Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckSty 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Honestly i think your best bet is to go to a casino. Watch all the players for a long time. Find someone who is doing well and who you respect the style of, and ask them to teach you. Obviously you want to find someone at a high limit game. I mean but some guys who are 1st tier pros probably couldn't teach you as much as some other guys who are 5th tier pros; and vice versa. You have to find someone you can learn from. with all that being said, and you say you've read all the books. i'd take my five grand go to vegas and play 1/2 or 2/5. That's the best way to learn. I mean if you've read everything you already have the knowledge. All you have to do is watch what's going on around you.... watch the people.watch them and when the time is right, raise them. Link to post Share on other sites
NickTheKid 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I recommend saving your money and using it to teach yourself... buyCaro's Book of TellsSmall StakesTheory of PokerYou will save about 4900 dollars because of this. Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Garceau 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Jim,Check your PMs I sent you the contact info for a guy I know that is turning out very successful poker players. Maybe not, million dollar poker pros but taking people from 1/2 limit a few months ago to 15/30 with proper bankroll in no time flat.He has a way of explaining things that really stick. Not some eccentric math wiz, just a very very bright guy with a knack for teaching. That I think is the key. Link to post Share on other sites
jerr496 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Honestly i think your best bet is to go to a casino. Watch all the players for a long time. Find someone who is doing well and who you respect the style of, and ask them to teach you. Obviously you want to find someone at a high limit game. Â I mean but some guys who are 1st tier pros probably couldn't teach you as much as some other guys who are 5th tier pros; and vice versa. You have to find someone you can learn from. Â with all that being said, and you say you've read all the books. i'd take my five grand go to vegas and play 1/2 or 2/5. That's the best way to learn. I mean if you've read everything you already have the knowledge. All you have to do is watch what's going on around you.... watch the people.watch them and when the time is right, raise them.I agree with this. Good point. Link to post Share on other sites
Chaserjim 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 Honestly i think your best bet is to go to a casino. Watch all the players for a long time. Find someone who is doing well and who you respect the style of, and ask them to teach you. Obviously you want to find someone at a high limit game. Â I mean but some guys who are 1st tier pros probably couldn't teach you as much as some other guys who are 5th tier pros; and vice versa. You have to find someone you can learn from. Â with all that being said, and you say you've read all the books. i'd take my five grand go to vegas and play 1/2 or 2/5. That's the best way to learn. I mean if you've read everything you already have the knowledge. All you have to do is watch what's going on around you.... watch the people.watch them and when the time is right, raise them.Thanks for the informative post! Honestly, 1-2 and 2-5 is all I play, and Im pretty successful at it (im not tootin my own horn) . But , for me .. I used to play chess , and I learned from a GM, who had won a couple hundred k over his span, and I paid for his services accordingly. Im basing this 5k offer, off of Josh Ariehs site. I think 125.00 an hour, compared to his ... 225?.00 for a 4 hour block, group lesson .... is a good offer. And im not asking Doyle Bruson , or Hellmuth to come teach me ... just .. someone whos been around the felt, played against top players and won ... Thats all . Link to post Share on other sites
Chaserjim 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 Jim,Check your PMs  I sent you the contact info for a guy I know that is turning out very successful poker players. Maybe not, million dollar poker pros but taking people from 1/2 limit a few months ago to 15/30 with proper bankroll in no time flat.He has a way of explaining things that really stick. Not some eccentric math wiz, just a very very bright guy with a knack for teaching. That I think is the key.Thanks kevin! This was all I was really lookin for man! Link to post Share on other sites
mikedshelton 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 $5k = 2 1/2 Hours (1/10 day) with PhilHellmuth ... remember he is trying to price himself out of the market but people just keep paying what ever he says it costs... ($50k/day) ... LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Heyou!!! 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Not to insult any "1st tier" pro's by giving them 5 thousand dollars. I just have a drive to learn, and im puttin my bait out there seein if anyone will bite ... Â For christ sakes people ....5K!!Lets say; "1st tier" of corse thats a SB for them,- impossible! "2nd tier" well..guess thats an avg. POT for them "3rd tier" 5k s a nice day of work for them, most def. !! Everyone else I wouldnt listen to for 8 hrs a day, if I was YOU! :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
Afterh0urs 0 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Kevin,Send me that contact info, too. I'm willing to check it out as I work on my Limit gamesonofdayne@aol.com Link to post Share on other sites
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