Emptyeye 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 In Omaha variants, as in Hold 'Em, there are hands which you would throw away in most positions which become playable in the small blind.Simple, yes, but an interesting lesson nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites
NormanHaupt 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I've learned...To value call my nuts at FCP tables.lmao actually, the last thing, I learned today, is not all sessions are either huge up sessions or huge down sessions. Sometimes, you break even and are left about exhausted as 10 hours of sex- but absolutely none of the fun earning it.I've learned PTracker is a stupid ass tool, until you add in Gametime+. Now we're talkin'!I've learned I need to slow down on my calls and go back to playing aggressively on the flop instead of trying to lure people into my two pair/trips trap. Bad flushes, bad.I've figured out, actually, that since I mentioned on the forums I quit my day job, I've been getting IM's about it. Please.. if you read this and feel the need to IM me about being a profession- go scrape your brain with a q-tip. I don't care who you are.Finally, the last thing I learned today, regarding poker.. PACIFIC SUCKS ASS. Not only does the site blow itself, but it'll be nearly a week waiting for my money to cash out. I've seen the postal service deliver bullshit faster than this! I'm going to Poker Mountain. Link to post Share on other sites
NormanHaupt 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 and just as I say that, Pacific finally lets me have my mother ****ing money, yeesh. Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 OK... so this guy Blaze calls women B**ches, and you guys are fine with that??Yours, on the other hand, was a serious statement about women and their playstyle, which I just think is wrong.DevI didn't say anything about female's playstyle. Man. I said they tend to play Ace-rag much stronger than males. Why? I dunno. I've just noticed it. Saying how someone plays one type of hand is their "play style" is just absurd, and shows your ignorance about the game.I've learned that in addition to being the most clueless poster on this forum, JFarrell20 is also the most ignorant. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 5 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I've learned that 7 Card Stud players on Party are really, really, really bad. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 OK... so this guy Blaze calls women B**ches, and you guys are fine with that??[self-righteous rant]mine was a parody of yours... Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 oh ya, i've learned that it is better to play a big hand aggressively rather than to slow play it. Link to post Share on other sites
RPGs316 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I've got to start switching my style of play up when it comes to playing pocket pairs. I got pegged the other day playing some $3/$6, and I didn't make as much as I should have. Link to post Share on other sites
adamkadmon 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 stay humble, stay humble, stay humble. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 It's best not to play when you are really, really tired.Sidenote: I dunno if that's already been said, but it's a good lesson to learn. Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyEyez 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Lesson #1: AJ is garbage. you wont get action unless you are beat. Lesson #2: when players have <5BB and raise/reraise, they often are steaming away chips with rags. when facing heavy aggression in a limit ring game, make a note of how much the villain has in his stack. if it seems inevitable he will be all in by the end of the hand, his aggression is likely due to tilt (or he somehow feels 'pot committed') as opposed to being representative of strength.I busted out in a MTT the other day. Blinds were 500/1000. I pushed my last 4000 with AJ. Folded around and the button calls with 6,7s. Hits a 7 on the river. Game over. 2 hours of solid play and busted out in 11th. That sucked. Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 OK... so this guy Blaze calls women B**ches, and you guys are fine with that??Yours, on the other hand, was a serious statement about women and their playstyle, which I just think is wrong.DevI didn't say anything about female's playstyle. Man. I said they tend to play Ace-rag much stronger than males. Why? I dunno. I've just noticed it. Saying how someone plays one type of hand is their "play style" is just absurd, and shows your ignorance about the game.I've learned that in addition to being the most clueless poster on this forum, JFarrell20 is also the most ignorant.Who the hell are you? And what did I ever do/say to you ??I don't get it.. how does saying that females seemingly value an Ace much more than a guy does make me some kind of jerk? I'm being totally honest. I'm sorry if you guys aren't observant enough to notice these obvious things. Oh here's another one for those of you who aren't good at tells... If someone goes all-in 17 times out of 24 hands... he's likely to be a huge bluffor! Or his name is David Williams. Next time your KK gets cracked by A6 off by a girl after you've bet through, I will be somewhere laughing really hard. And probably about to get laid again. Link to post Share on other sites
renaedawn 1 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 one thing i HAVE noticed is that (this only relates to live poker) women are much more difficult to bluff at. those bitches know you're lying straight away. oops, did i say that out loud?Muuuuaaaaaahhhhh! Fear the estrogen, boys! Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 OK... so this guy Blaze calls women B**ches, and you guys are fine with that??Yours, on the other hand, was a serious statement about women and their playstyle, which I just think is wrong.DevI didn't say anything about female's playstyle. Man. I said they tend to play Ace-rag much stronger than males. Why? I dunno. I've just noticed it. Saying how someone plays one type of hand is their "play style" is just absurd, and shows your ignorance about the game.I've learned that in addition to being the most clueless poster on this forum, JFarrell20 is also the most ignorant.Who the hell are you? And what did I ever do/say to you ??I don't get it.. how does saying that females seemingly value an Ace much more than a guy does make me some kind of jerk? I'm being totally honest. I'm sorry if you guys aren't observant enough to notice these obvious things. Oh here's another one for those of you who aren't good at tells... If someone goes all-in 17 times out of 24 hands... he's likely to be a huge bluffor! Or his name is David Williams. Next time your KK gets cracked by A6 off by a girl after you've bet through, I will be somewhere laughing really hard. And probably about to get laid again.I'm just another observant nobody. If it is any consolation, PatrickBateman might be more clueless than you are.Making a categorial post about a gender or minority with anecdotal evidence and no data is generally a sign of someone with a major bias against said gender or minority.You won't hear about the next time my KK gets cracked by A6, T7, or 72, because I don't believe this forum is a place for people to whine about their bad beats or bad luck constantly. Link to post Share on other sites
poguemahone68 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 OK... so this guy Blaze calls women B**ches, and you guys are fine with that??Yours, on the other hand, was a serious statement about women and their playstyle, which I just think is wrong.DevI didn't say anything about female's playstyle. Man. I said they tend to play Ace-rag much stronger than males. Why? I dunno. I've just noticed it. Saying how someone plays one type of hand is their "play style" is just absurd, and shows your ignorance about the game.I've learned that in addition to being the most clueless poster on this forum, JFarrell20 is also the most ignorant.Who the hell are you? And what did I ever do/say to you ??I don't get it.. how does saying that females seemingly value an Ace much more than a guy does make me some kind of jerk? I'm being totally honest. I'm sorry if you guys aren't observant enough to notice these obvious things. Oh here's another one for those of you who aren't good at tells... If someone goes all-in 17 times out of 24 hands... he's likely to be a huge bluffor! Or his name is David Williams. Next time your KK gets cracked by A6 off by a girl after you've bet through, I will be somewhere laughing really hard. And probably about to get laid again.You know what JFarrell, I've noticed a trend too. Black folks bluff more. I think maybe it's because they are used to stealing. (huge SW) Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Mike Caro says:Stereotypes are probably there for a reason... So until you learn otherwise, it's probably best to follow them.I am paraphrasing, but that's pretty much what he said.So don't get too rough with jfarrell on this one. Sometimes stereotypes are true... especially in poker. Link to post Share on other sites
poguemahone68 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Mike Caro says:Stereotypes are probably there for a reason... So until you learn otherwise, it's probably best to follow them.I am paraphrasing, but that's pretty much what he said.So don't get too rough with jfarrell on this one. Sometimes stereotypes are true... especially in poker.But not in the case jfarrell made. A truer comment or "stereotype" would be, "beginnning players play Ace rag more than advanced players". The gender part of it has no bearing at all. It's just bad players, period. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Mike Caro says:Stereotypes are probably there for a reason... So until you learn otherwise, it's probably best to follow them.I am paraphrasing, but that's pretty much what he said.So don't get too rough with jfarrell on this one. Sometimes stereotypes are true... especially in poker.But not in the case jfarrell made. A truer comment or "stereotype" would be, "beginnning players play Ace rag more than advanced players". The gender part of it has no bearing at all. It's just bad players, period.No no... Go read his book of tells. He specifically mentions women, black people, asians... and so on. Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 OK... so this guy Blaze calls women B**ches, and you guys are fine with that??Yours, on the other hand, was a serious statement about women and their playstyle, which I just think is wrong.DevI didn't say anything about female's playstyle. Man. I said they tend to play Ace-rag much stronger than males. Why? I dunno. I've just noticed it. Saying how someone plays one type of hand is their "play style" is just absurd, and shows your ignorance about the game.I've learned that in addition to being the most clueless poster on this forum, JFarrell20 is also the most ignorant.Who the hell are you? And what did I ever do/say to you ??I don't get it.. how does saying that females seemingly value an Ace much more than a guy does make me some kind of jerk? I'm being totally honest. I'm sorry if you guys aren't observant enough to notice these obvious things. Oh here's another one for those of you who aren't good at tells... If someone goes all-in 17 times out of 24 hands... he's likely to be a huge bluffor! Or his name is David Williams. Next time your KK gets cracked by A6 off by a girl after you've bet through, I will be somewhere laughing really hard. And probably about to get laid again.I'm just another observant nobody. If it is any consolation, PatrickBateman might be more clueless than you are.Making a categorial post about a gender or minority with anecdotal evidence and no data is generally a sign of someone with a major bias against said gender or minority.OMG.That's all I have to say. OMG. Yeah I wear a white tank-top to work and beat up the Secretary every day "Nahh hear me wom'n...git me sum coffee. Git it! GIT ER DUN! 'For I whoop ya!" I don't know how it makes me a jerk that I naturally happened to notice that I was being called down many times by females with Ace-rag. Much moreso than against male "avatars". Would you also get mad if I said that you're highly more likely to play against male drunks, than female drunks? Or how 'bout the fact that you're more likely to play young people in the wee hours of the morning as opposed to parents? Man I must be a big insensitive jerk by making all these absurd revelations.Shouldn't you be watching your Tivo'd Oprah show right now? Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Mike Caro says:Stereotypes are probably there for a reason... So until you learn otherwise, it's probably best to follow them.I am paraphrasing, but that's pretty much what he said.So don't get too rough with jfarrell on this one. Sometimes stereotypes are true... especially in poker.But not in the case jfarrell made. A truer comment or "stereotype" would be, "beginnning players play Ace rag more than advanced players". The gender part of it has no bearing at all. It's just bad players, period.So you are basically saying that females are all beginners and therefore bad players? LOL.How this comment could go by without getting attacked will be interesting to watch.Maybe there are more female beginners than male? Who the F knows. All I know is that the OP asked what the latest "revelation" we've discovered and I was honest. Take it for what it's worth. If you don't believe me, then prove to me that males play ace-rag more aggressively than females. If you can't do that, then STFU.It speaks volumes that Suited_Up is in agreement with me on this one, due to the fact that he:A) has never agreed with meB) hates me Link to post Share on other sites
poguemahone68 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Mike Caro says:Stereotypes are probably there for a reason... So until you learn otherwise, it's probably best to follow them.I am paraphrasing, but that's pretty much what he said.So don't get too rough with jfarrell on this one. Sometimes stereotypes are true... especially in poker.But not in the case jfarrell made. A truer comment or "stereotype" would be, "beginnning players play Ace rag more than advanced players". The gender part of it has no bearing at all. It's just bad players, period.No no... Go read his book of tells. He specifically mentions women, black people, asians... and so on.I haven't read Caro's book of tells. I do however play with several women on a regular basis at my local casino and a few of them are complete sharks and if they are playing ace rag, they are doing it for a calculated reason, such as stealing. When I play, I try to figure out my opponents level of play and go from there. I don't just sit down and say to myself, "hmmm, she's probably going to be playing ace rag out of position, cause she's a woman and they tend to do that" or " I won't try to bluff her, cause she's a woman and she can tell when I'm lying"I know Negreanu wrote an article about asian players and how good they are and aggressive they are. I play with tons of asian players here in the Bay Area, but I don't think it has to do with them being asian. I think it has to do with them playing a lot and learning from experience. I think he or someone else wrote one of the reasons asian players might be so good is due to a language barrier, so they actually pay attention to the action of the table rather than what's being said. I agree with that, except, I think it could be true for anyone who does not speak the native language of the place they are playing in, not just asians playing in america. Link to post Share on other sites
jack24bauer24 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Females treat Ace-rag much stronger than males do.I swear to God. Pay attention. The female players will call to the end simply trying to spike their Ace with a 3 kicker. It's really fun when you're dealt KK, bet it through, and get beaten on the river like that. Just my opinion...never underestimate your female opponent's probability of playing Ace-rag.This isn't a female thing, its a fish thing.99.99 percent of peopel online love their ace rag, and very few of players are women, so there are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more horrible guys than girls. Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I know Negreanu wrote an article about asian players and how good they are and aggressive they are. I play with tons of asian players here in the Bay Area, but I don't think it has to do with them being asian. I think it has to do with them playing a lot and learning from experience. I think he or someone else wrote one of the reasons asian players might be so good is due to a language barrier, so they actually pay attention to the action of the table rather than what's being said. I agree with that, except, I think it could be true for anyone who does not speak the native language of the place they are playing in, not just asians playing in america.Are you serious? It's clearly obvious that Asians excel at poker. If this makes me biased toward Asians then so be it. At least I'm honest. Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Maybe there are more female beginners than male? Who the F knows. All I know is that the OP asked what the latest "revelation" we've discovered and I was honest. Take it for what it's worth. If you don't believe me, then prove to me that males play ace-rag more aggressively than females. If you can't do that, then STFU.It speaks volumes that Suited_Up is in agreement with me on this one, due to the fact that he:A) has never agreed with meB) hates meSince you haven't proven anything to us beyond your great Omaha strategy, I'm not going to bother refuting your unproven "revelation" with made up statistics. And if anyone has real statistics about how the genders play ace-rag, I would honestly love to see them.My subtle point, which obviously escaped you, is that judging people by their avatars or usernames is a fantastic way to lose money. Link to post Share on other sites
TucsonMonster 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 i have learned why Doyle Brunson rarely plays Ace Queen. That hand just plain sucks. Everytime i have it i get sucked out. who knows why but now i wil stray away from it. Link to post Share on other sites
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