pokerlegend1 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 If you remember back in the day there was guy who was hounding daniel at all of his tables. And on one hand Daniel called for 1000 dollars with ace high and the guy won a 6,000 pot. the guy told daniel and this guy that daniel calle dwith ace high even htough he mucked his hand . he did this while they were playing the game which infuriated daniel. Ever since then if you are just observing you can not look back at hand history of a game. I think this is not right. On every other site they allow you too! It is a way to get a read on your opponents. I realize the fustration that night when he was getting slaughtered and the guy who was heckling him was driving him nuts but he should not have the utmos authority on this. He has one site he is not in charge. I spoke to pokeroom and they will be lookng in to it and i was told with a week they will be reinstating the right to look at hadns in games you observed. Link to post Share on other sites
bengy3 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I don't speak Spanish. Link to post Share on other sites
tripdeuces 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I believe this was not something Daniel did but a server problem or something of that nature. You think daniel steams that much to the point where he takes away the hand history for the observers. Anyway i don't think hand histories for observers are fair anyway just because online you can see what a guy mucked and the free information is too much. Link to post Share on other sites
Got The Nutz 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 No habla Espaniol? Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 A guy loses a 6 BB pot, with A high, and you think he's gonna have the hand histories pulled on all the sites--of which he has really, next to no control over. Link to post Share on other sites
natan106 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 In the words of Arnold Shwartzenagger, "Stop Whining!" I believe you can't check hand history on stars also if you are just observing. I could be wrong, but I don't think you can. Link to post Share on other sites
sealster 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 You can't do it on stars and I don't see why you should be able to on any site. Getting to see hands players muck without being dealt in the hand allows you free information that you didn't earn in any way. The main reason to allow players to see this is to avoid collusion and if you aren't playing at the table there really is no purpose from the sites point of view. Link to post Share on other sites
Nealyh_02 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 If you remember back in the day there was guy who was hounding daniel at all of his tables. And on one hand Daniel called for 1000 dollars with ace high and the guy won a 6,000 pot. the guy told daniel and this guy that daniel calle dwith ace high even htough he mucked his hand . he did this while they were playing the game which infuriated daniel. Ever since then if you are just observing you can not look back at hand history of a game. I think this is not right. On every other site they allow you too! It is a way to get a read on your opponents. I realize the fustration that night when he was getting slaughtered and the guy who was heckling him was driving him nuts but he should not have the utmos authority on this. He has one site he is not in charge. I spoke to pokeroom and they will be lookng in to it and i was told with a week they will be reinstating the right to look at hadns in games you observed.Has anybody tried the new white chocalate reeses peanut butter cup... yum Link to post Share on other sites
SapphireTiger 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 You can't do it on stars and I don't see why you should be able to on any site. Getting to see hands players muck without being dealt in the hand allows you free information that you didn't earn in any way. The main reason to allow players to see this is to avoid collusion and if you aren't playing at the table there really is no purpose from the sites point of view.uhh...newsflash... Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Can't view "observed" hand histories on Bodog or PokerShare unless you're sitting at the table. Granted, you can be "sitting out" and see them. I will say that one annoying part of this is wanting to show hand histories to friends. They used to be able to look them up by the hand number. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Can't view "observed" hand histories on Bodog or PokerShare unless you're sitting at the table. Granted, you can be "sitting out" and see them. I will say that one annoying part of this is wanting to show hand histories to friends. They used to be able to look them up by the hand number.on pokerroom..the only way i've ever been able to see observed hand histories is thru the betonbet client...that's also the only site ive found that allows it.that was cool.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,320 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 If you remember back in the day there was guy who was hounding daniel at all of his tables. And on one hand Daniel called for 1000 dollars with ace high and the guy won a 6,000 pot. the guy told daniel and this guy that daniel calle dwith ace high even htough he mucked his hand . he did this while they were playing the game which infuriated daniel. Ever since then if you are just observing you can not look back at hand history of a game. I think this is not right. On every other site they allow you too! It is a way to get a read on your opponents. I realize the fustration that night when he was getting slaughtered and the guy who was heckling him was driving him nuts but he should not have the utmos authority on this. He has one site he is not in charge. I spoke to pokeroom and they will be lookng in to it and i was told with a week they will be reinstating the right to look at hadns in games you observed.There were some technical problems last night that may have effected the hand histories. To my knowledge the way FCP handles hand histories won't be changing with the newest release of the software later today. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I don't care who mucks what. My reading skillz are so mad, I don't need a hand history to tell me I'm right. Link to post Share on other sites
HoosierAlum 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Party wont let you view the HH if you're an observer. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 For a second there I though he was going to say that two pair now beat trips but not a set. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 paging the Grammar Police please... Link to post Share on other sites
messingTexass 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 think this is not right. On every other site they allow you too!Not PokerStars, not PartyPoker.Understando, muchacho? Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Allowing observers to chart their opponents without having to actually play in the game is totally out of line and wrong in every way. Think about it for a minute: I could spend 8 hours going over one of my opponents who is playing someone else and then build up a wealth of knowledge on his tendencies without having to pay squat. Then, I sit down on the game with a HUGE advantage sine my opponent has NO information on me, but I have a read on his play already. A site should not allow that at all, don't you think? Link to post Share on other sites
ricker 0 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Allowing observers to chart their opponents without having to actually play in the game is totally out of line and wrong in every way. Think about it for a minute: I could spend 8 hours going over one of my opponents who is playing someone else and then build up a wealth of knowledge on his tendencies without having to pay squat. Then, I sit down on the game with a HUGE advantage sine my opponent has NO information on me, but I have a read on his play already. A site should not allow that at all, don't you think?Agreed, you gotta pay to play.In live games you're not allowed to see anyone's mucked hand UNLESS they show the entire table. This is not the case with what happened with DN. This was just some railbird calling out what was the mucked hand. It's not appropriate and it's not fair to other players.By the way, it doesn't matter what other sites allow players not involved in hands to see mucked hands. That's not the point. The point is giving away free information about a player you're not actually involved in playing with. Link to post Share on other sites
aadams_22 3 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 think this is not right. On every other site they allow you too!Not PokerStars, not PartyPoker.Understando, muchacho?Full Tilt does Link to post Share on other sites
Steamed Rice 0 Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Has anybody tried the new white chocalate reeses peanut butter cup... yumstill hooked on the caramel onecrazy **** Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Allowing observers to chart their opponents without having to actually play in the game is totally out of line and wrong in every way. Think about it for a minute: I could spend 8 hours going over one of my opponents who is playing someone else and then build up a wealth of knowledge on his tendencies without having to pay squat. Then, I sit down on the game with a HUGE advantage sine my opponent has NO information on me, but I have a read on his play already. A site should not allow that at all, don't you think?No way. No brainer.(By the way Steamed...love the Avatar) Link to post Share on other sites
pokerlegend1 0 Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 Allowing observers to chart their opponents without having to actually play in the game is totally out of line and wrong in every way. Think about it for a minute: I could spend 8 hours going over one of my opponents who is playing someone else and then build up a wealth of knowledge on his tendencies without having to pay squat. Then, I sit down on the game with a HUGE advantage sine my opponent has NO information on me, but I have a read on his play already. A site should not allow that at all, don't you think?Problem with this daniel is that you know exactly what i am talking about. I remember the game where the guy did this to you and you became infuriated with him. I am not saying you are wrong but since that point the rules have changed to say you had nothing to do with that is a complete lie. I don't mind the rule change just want you to fess up to doing it. Link to post Share on other sites
yergan 0 Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 I am not saying you are wrong but since that point the rules have changed to say you had nothing to do with that is a complete lie. Where did he say he had nothing to do with it? Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,320 Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Problem with this daniel is that you know exactly what i am talking about. I remember the game where the guy did this to you and you became infuriated with him. I am not saying you are wrong but since that point the rules have changed to say you had nothing to do with that is a complete lie. I don't mind the rule change just want you to fess up to doing it.Pokerlegend, there has been no change since FCP launched.Observers at a table can access the hand histories, nobody is lying.Daniel thinks it's wrong to allow obsevers to have access to hand histories, at the moment they do at FCP.RegardsBobFCP Poker Manager Link to post Share on other sites
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