nutzbuster 7 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 I'm going to win this event :-) I think that I have an excellent shot to win this thing, but will also add that I'd be willing to bet that the eventual winner plays at least $2000-$4000 mixed games at Bellagio. It won't be a "tournament player," it'll be a guy who wins in the big game:MyselfPhil IveyDoyle BrunsonChip ReeseTed ForrestJohn HenniganJennifer HarmanI got a $100 says Daniel wins it. B) Link to post Share on other sites
another_rack 0 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 I got a $100 says Daniel wins it. B)I'm putting my mobney on Huck Seed. Best tournament Razz player ever. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 I got a $100 says Daniel wins it. B)So you're looking for somebody to take the bet for Not Daniel?Is this an even money bet? Link to post Share on other sites
crocd99 0 Posted April 22, 2006 Author Share Posted April 22, 2006 does chau giang have any shot at this?as for hoosieralum i dont doubt his talent and hes one of my favourites to watch but Id be more inclined to pick someone who ive seen win a race. i see what you mean... but now hoosier is due to win many races, we also got prtypsux on the team and when he is in a race is seems more like the opponent is drawing to one out rather than it being a race. Link to post Share on other sites
Mcseals 0 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Phil Ivey , best poker player ever Link to post Share on other sites
owise1 0 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 I'm going to win this event :-) I think that I have an excellent shot to win this thing, but will also add that I'd be willing to bet that the eventual winner plays at least $2000-$4000 mixed games at Bellagio. It won't be a "tournament player," it'll be a guy who wins in the big game:MyselfPhil IveyDoyle BrunsonChip Reese Ted ForrestJohn HenniganJennifer HarmanChip is my pic. I am surprised no one mentioned him before Daniel didowise1 Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 David Oppenheim is my pick. Does anyone know about how many players are expected to buy into this 50k event? Link to post Share on other sites
FullMontyM1 0 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 David Oppenheim is my pick. Does anyone know about how many players are expected to buy into this 50k event?450+/-100 is my guess. Link to post Share on other sites
SportsW234 0 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 While I think the best odds are for players who play the highest stakes cash games I'm not going to count out a lot of tournament players who seem to excel at all five games. Here are the tournament players I think have the best shot:John Juanda (One of the best in No Limit, Stud 8/or better bracelet, multiple stud final tables and wins, and multiple Razz final tables. Only problem is Omaha 8/or better is said to be his weakest game).Chris Ferguson (Final tables in all five games. Stud, 2 in Omaha8 or better, and one in a limit hold'em/stud tournament)Men Nguyen (One of the best stud tournament players. Made final tables in all five games. Two stud bracelets, one stud 8 or better bracelet, one Omaha 8 bracelet, and one limit hold'em bracelet plus multiple wins in these games in small tournaments)David Pham and Scott Fischman (Both have one a mixed game bracelet at the World Series)If I'm putting money on the event I would probably take high-stakes pro, but I wouldn't count out some tournament players. Link to post Share on other sites
mthenuts 0 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Daniel you forgot todd brunson thats my pick he owns cash games Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Ivey, DN, or Chip Reese will take this down. Link to post Share on other sites
get crunk 0 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I'm going to win this event :-) I think that I have an excellent shot to win this thing, but will also add that I'd be willing to bet that the eventual winner plays at least $2000-$4000 mixed games at Bellagio. It won't be a "tournament player," it'll be a guy who wins in the big game:MyselfPhil IveyDoyle BrunsonChip ReeseTed ForrestJohn HenniganJennifer Harmanwhat sort of odds would you give me on a last longer for this tournament? this will probably be the only wsop tournament i play... also, what about a bet where you get to pick 5 players (including yourself) and if i outlast all 5 i win, obviously getting some odds. if that interests you at all let me knowedit: oh, and thats contingent on the tournament being strictly HORSE... if for some moronic reason they change it a No limit final table im probably not going to play Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 what sort of odds would you give me on a last longer for this tournament? this will probably be the only wsop tournament i play... also, what about a bet where you get to pick 5 players (including yourself) and if i outlast all 5 i win, obviously getting some odds. if that interests you at all let me knowedit: oh, and thats contingent on the tournament being strictly HORSE... if for some moronic reason they change it a No limit final table im probably not going to play It IS no limit hold'em at the final table. The tournament was my idea the and it only makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites
get crunk 0 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 It IS no limit hold'em at the final table. The tournament was my idea the and it only makes sense.ahh... bad news bears... haha kind of funny it was your idea and i referred to it as 'moronic'... well i understand the theory behind it being the 'ultimate test of skill' i just disagree with it... especially cause almost everyone can play tournament NL nowadays unless the stacks are pretty deep, but even up to 100x big blinds i dont think there a huge difference in skill, and will probably come down to who catches the best cards, yes same thing for the limt HORSE but at least 5 different games for someone to botch one... i still may play the tournament as i was really looking forward to it... can you give any more details as to the structure? what sort of NL structure are we looking at for the final table.. i feel pretty safe in assuming it wont mimic a WPT final table Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 So you're looking for somebody to take the bet for Not Daniel?Is this an even money bet?]Straight up. If Daniel wins, you transfer $100 to my account.Daniel lose's, I'll transfer $100 to your account. (thru FCP info, if they can do it)Friendly bet. If you want. Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba83 0 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I'll take that bet... Link to post Share on other sites
get crunk 0 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 nah i was looking to get some odds in my favor and make a slightly larger bet... im not sure if im even gonna play the tournament now but i still probably will, barring financial disaster... daniels point was that the tournament superstars from TV have no shot at a mixed cash game format, which this tourney is very close to, compared to the guys who make a living at 4 digit games. this is true, and im sure there will be several players favored over me in this tournament, so i wouldnt make the bet straight up vs. daniel but if he thinks i have no shot then i may be able to get a bet... this is a long way away however and i am not much of a prop bettor so im just gonna leave it alone and see whats what as the tourney approaches.. also any info you can share on the structure will be appreciated, change every 8 hands, half hour, also final table structure, TY. Link to post Share on other sites
HoosierAlum 0 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 My money is on HoosierAlum. Link to post Share on other sites
Steamed Rice 0 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 hoosier you really playing the 50k horse? Link to post Share on other sites
HoosierAlum 0 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 hoosier you really playing the 50k horse?Probably not. I might try out a few satellites, but won't invest too much $ into it. Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Ted Forrest Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 also any info you can share on the structure will be appreciated, change every 8 hands, half hour, also final table structure, TY. Event 38 H.O.R.S.E. $50KThe structure looks pretty good... are you able to buy straight in or are you looking to sat-in?James Link to post Share on other sites
get crunk 0 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Event 38 H.O.R.S.E. $50KThe structure looks pretty good... are you able to buy straight in or are you looking to sat-in?Jamesahh, TY very much... i am gonna tyr the online satelittes but probably buy in if i have to... last year i went out and played 11 tournaments lost 30k and lost 10k in cash games, so i am thinking this year if i play this itll be the only tourney i play.. dont like spending long stretches of time in casinos anyway and would rather take a shot at this bad boy. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Well, have you worked on your game? Have you learned what cost you 40k last year? The 50k horse event is going to be so tough... if you can sat-in I would recommend it becausea. it shows you have some knowledge of all of the gamesb. direct buy-in is 50k against guys who play high limit mixed games for a living, and if you lost 40k last year...also, what events did you play to lose 30k? and what about the cash games? what limits, games, etc?James Link to post Share on other sites
get crunk 0 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Well, have you worked on your game? Have you learned what cost you 40k last year? The 50k horse event is going to be so tough... if you can sat-in I would recommend it becausea. it shows you have some knowledge of all of the gamesb. direct buy-in is 50k against guys who play high limit mixed games for a living, and if you lost 40k last year...also, what events did you play to lose 30k? and what about the cash games? what limits, games, etc?Jamesi played 11 tournaments all different games and didnt make the money in any of them, which cost 30k. lost 10k mostly playing 75-150 mixed games although some a little higher. end result minus the 40k i brought. i look at it more as random chance in the lottery rather than something i did incredibly wrong, although i made some mistakes. im definitely going to try and satelitte in as 50k is a lot of money, but worst case scenario my bankroll is smaller and i have to grind out at smaller limits for a month or two, which may be a good thing anyway... good thing my parents are rich i suppose Link to post Share on other sites
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