Jj Lost At River 50nl

[Lucoo_ 0]

Ok so villian in this hand is an unknown but was playing really tight from what i could tell. I'm lost as to what to do on this river. Fire away....PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flopUTG ($74.65)UTG+1 ($87.15)MP1 ($50.60)MP2 ($155.65)CO ($50)Button ($50)Hero (SB) ($51.80)BB ($53.45)Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J1 fold, UTG+1 bets $2, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50Flop: ($6.50) 6, J, 4(3 players)Hero bets $3.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $3.50Turn: ($13.50) Q(2 players)Hero bets $8, UTG+1 calls $8River: ($29.50) A(2 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $16

[digading 0]

Personally I hate the donk bet. He took the lead, let him continue to take the lead, then c/r him. If he has a better pair then jacks, he is gonna be r/r you a lot there with the fd out there. With a pair worse then jacks, 1010/99 he may even call thinking your c/r the fd. As played, make that turn bet 11.50-13 next time for sure. If hes calling you down with a flush draw you want to charge him the maximum. River Im check/calling, but I think a lot of good players(of which I'm not one, lol) would take the bet/fold line, because especially if hes tight hes never raising with worse there once you bet.

[mtdesmoines 3]

I don't like flatting PF from SB w JJ. 3-bet that. Bigger bets on flop and turn, please: 3/4 pot+ As played, snippety snap river.

[potatoman 0]

I'm getting more money in preflop (3-bet), flop and turn, so by the river I'm probably already allin or committed to the pot.As played...villian could have AJ maybe...it's probably a fold.

[Andynice20 0]

I'd always 3bet this preflop, at least to define where I stand and build a pot with what is most likely the best hand now.With the line taken pre I'd go for a pot sized checkraise on the flop as we've really shown no strength. Not sure why the smallish bet sizes, we want to make him pay to draw don't we? River bet by villian is very value-ish but I'd call. Since this posted here I assume you called as well and he had the flush?

[Syntonic 0]

I prefer repopping this preflop, but I don't hate the flat call, especially if you say he's really tight.If you're going to flat call OOP like that, I think it's better to C/R him on the flop. You have the nuts, you want to blow up the pot as fast as possible.I don't think the river is a snap call. Without stats, it's tough, but if you say he's really tight, that isolates his range. The only thing you're realistically beating here is AQ. I can't really think of what you beat here, unless you think he's capable of raising 75s from early position.I probably timebank and call this, but I'm not liking it. It's hard to make sets, yknow?

[Ninja Ace 1]

I don't like really anything at all about this hand...As played it's a fairly easy fold on the river.Please 3bet preflopPlease don't donk bet the flopPlease lead the river

[Ninja Ace 1]

I'd always 3bet this preflop, at least to define where I stand

*slaps wrist*Nothere are 2 reasons to bet or raise ever1: Get a worse hand to call2: Get a better hand to foldPutting money in for any other reason is just stupid. There's plenty of information available to you so use what you have. Betting to gain information is worthless because unless you're playing yourself, you have no idea really what that information means.

[fakepoo 0]

I would probably c/c flop and c/f turn. He probably has pocket QQ.

[Ninja Ace 1]

I would probably c/c flop and c/f turn. He probably has pocket QQ.

So everybody's range is exactly one hand?

[trystero 0]

flop is a good spot to c/r. I won't say it's exactly "dry" but I expect lots of regs to bet it w/almost their whole range

[ghostlove 0]

why is everyone saying reraise PF with the worst postion? dont re raise pre, calling is fine.i would c/r the flopas played call

[ghostlove 0]

I prefer repopping this preflop, but I don't hate the flat call, especially if you say he's really tight.If you're going to flat call OOP like that, I think it's better to C/R him on the flop. You have the nuts, you want to blow up the pot as fast as possible.I don't think the river is a snap call. Without stats, it's tough, but if you say he's really tight, that isolates his range. The only thing you're realistically beating here is AQ. I can't really think of what you beat here, unless you think he's capable of raising 75s from early position.I probably timebank and call this, but I'm not liking it. It's hard to make sets, yknow?

yeah i like this, except the reraise PF with a middle pair. whats he calling with on flop, AJ maybe?

[Ninja Ace 1]

why is everyone saying reraise PF with the worst postion? dont re raise pre, calling is fine.

Because you should be repoping much wider and weaker than jacks as well... this isn't full ring

[gary21212121 0]

i play it the same. 3betting pre is fine but so is flatting. i call river as played.

[BaseJester 1]

there are 2 reasons to bet or raise ever1: Get a worse hand to call2: Get a better hand to fold

Just ****ing kill me now.

[rrumsey 0]

i like what everyone said, expect for ghost about the pf. i mean come on man if you dont 3 bet JJ then you end up playing your hands face up when you do 3 bet!

[Ninja Ace 1]

Just ****ing kill me now.

Either you really like that or really hate that

[fighter 4]

i play it the same. 3betting pre is fine but so is flatting. i call river as played.

I make the flop bet sizing bigger. Agree with gary.

[SCS 0]

In a 6max game I would almost always 3 bet preflop. Full ring, calling is probably fine.I would usually c/r the flop, but if villain checks back a lot of flops or likes to raise donk bets a lot I like leading out. I would bet much bigger though. Bet $6 on the flop if you are going to bet it, then bet large enough on the turn to set up a river shove.

[SCS 0]

Because you should be repoping much wider and weaker than jacks as well... this isn't full ring

You also weaken your calling range here if you 3 bet JJ.Both plays are fine.

[babylondonks 5]

Yup, flatting or 3betting is fine. I flat a ton here, 3bet folding is lame, but it's stylistic really. You should prob be doing both some %.

[Ninja Ace 1]

You also weaken your calling range here if you 3 bet JJ.

I also don't have a calling range from the SB

[SCS 0]

I also don't have a calling range from the SB

That's a pretty big leak.So, if a tight player UTG opens and you have 66 in the sb, you are either 3 betting or folding?

[Ninja Ace 1]

That's a pretty big leak.So, if a tight player UTG opens and you have 66 in the sb, you are either 3 betting or folding?

Yup.Set mining doesn't work very well at 6max, and tight players tend to fold too much