KosinTrouble 0 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 LOOOOOLI was on 3Also, why do you think I precluded that with "oddly enough" and called it a "spew session"Don't be so angry bro ;)Just sayin, you missed value from this retardThe AA hand, yes i missed value but there was a valid reason for me not betting, namely I wasnt at the computer...The QQ hand, I am not completely convinced I played that completely wrong. It was a mono-tone board, I bet flop. You called, original raiser folded. I checked blank turn. Bet 1/2 on river expecting to call a normal raise. If I bet more and you jam, is that a snap call? I am not convinced it is. Because you were playing so loose, suited cards smack your range. Or are you saying because of how loose you were I should have been happy to get it in? If I bomb the turn, you arent calling unless you have the flush or some TP, and then if you bomb the river or shove, is that still a call? Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 The AA hand, yes i missed value but there was a valid reason for me not betting, namely I wasnt at the computer...The QQ hand, I am not completely convinced I played that completely wrong. It was a mono-tone board, I bet flop. You called, original raiser folded. I checked blank turn. Bet 1/2 on river expecting to call a normal raise. If I bet more and you jam, is that a snap call? I am not convinced it is. Because you were playing so loose, suited cards smack your range. Or are you saying because of how loose you were I should have been happy to get it in? If I bomb the turn, you arent calling unless you have the flush or some TP, and then if you bomb the river or shove, is that still a call?The AA hand I was figuring you were trying to get me to bet, since i was betting like everything... when you 3balled and checked KQx i was like... oh... no way I'm taking this down... go running 4's?The QQ hand I don't mind the turn check if you were planning to CRAI... it's actually probably the best play there, but I'm pretty sure you also checked to me on the river, because I remember mashing the pot button since I had made kings up... I was shocked I lost the hand when I was just flatted.I'm actually not running a tracker atm... pokerz is not so serious for me anymore... so i'm curious... was my VPIP like 60% or something stupid? (it was higher on the other tables LULZ) Link to post Share on other sites
KosinTrouble 0 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 The AA hand I was figuring you were trying to get me to bet, since i was betting like everything... when you 3balled and checked KQx i was like... oh... no way I'm taking this down... go running 4's?The QQ hand I don't mind the turn check if you were planning to CRAI... it's actually probably the best play there, but I'm pretty sure you also checked to me on the river, because I remember mashing the pot button since I had made kings up... I was shocked I lost the hand when I was just flatted.Just checked the HH and yes you are correct, I didnt river was thinking another hand. That hand I am a bit lost on why I didnt bet or raise the river. Can only assume that I was intending to c/r turn. The river the most likely thought was that if I do bet and you jam the river is it still a call? And because I didnt bet and you potted, I would pretty much have to jam and if I jam the only thing that will call is better thus being the flush. But to be honest, that would be my best guess, in reality it could simple be I missed value.Your stats were 60/52 with 3bet of 37% Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Just checked the HH and yes you are correct, I didnt river was thinking another hand. That hand I am a bit lost on why I didnt bet or raise the river. Can only assume that I was intending to c/r turn. The river the most likely thought was that if I do bet and you jam the river is it still a call? And because I didnt bet and you potted, I would pretty much have to jam and if I jam the only thing that will call is better thus being the flush. But to be honest, that would be my best guess, in reality it could simple be I missed value.Yeah on the river there, against a redfish (somebody being a betmonkey like me), I'd probably suggest less than a half pot bet... an "inducer bet." Sure, sometimes he will actually have the flush when he jams, but it will often get him to raise you (like I did in the KQ hand you were thinking of) with his whiffed draw... or in that weird case I would have definitely jammed 2 pairYour stats were 60/52 with 3bet of 37%ROFFFLLLLThe reason I ended up on the session was mostly that I found the other redfish, and the tables saw some "donk on donk violence." Basically, you want to bet to make the pots large, but when you have a hand, give them room to make the final jam (unless they're committed) or that fancy play they're setting up for. Sometimes they show up with a hand... but most with an "aggro game" tend to "forget" to do it with their value hands as well.So basically, let them float, don't check to them... check-raise turns for thin value, and don't be afraid to get it in.That German guy who won the KQ vs TT flip is a redfish too btw. TT is near the top of his range. Link to post Share on other sites
KosinTrouble 0 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Yeah on the river there, against a redfish (somebody being a betmonkey like me), I'd probably suggest less than a half pot bet... an "inducer bet." Sure, sometimes he will actually have the flush when he jams, but it will often get him to raise you (like I did in the KQ hand you were thinking of) with his whiffed draw... or in that weird case I would have definitely jammed 2 pairROFFFLLLLok thanks, note taken on that one. Thanks for the insight and feed back. I appreciate it. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 NA runs like that nuttz dude in here with the monkey avatar. when we were on FTP he used to try and sit to my left all of the time, running literally like 90/90/infinite_3_bet Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 http://thegoldengatescasino.com/poker/colo...onship-scheduleReally want to try to play in a couple of these and test the waters with some satties to the ME.Looks like I'm gonna play the 12pm events on Tuesday and Friday. If I bust out of both early enough I'll try the qualifiers at 3pm. If I qualify/do well in an event I will play the $1,100 ME. However, I will have to attempt to get work covered. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Played live 200nl yesterday for about 12 hours. Don't really remember any cool hands, other thenI raise to $7 CO with Jh8h, btn calls (he's pretty tightish, but a decent player, and we've been chatting a bit so i feel i know where he is most of the time)Flop is 10d 9d 6c. I bet $10, he min raises. I call.Turn is a 9s. We both check.River is a Kh. I bet $35 and he folds.Once he checked back the turn on that board, I put him on a very weak range that was just trying to steal it from me on the flop.Overall I ended up about $215. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 I keep value cutting myself and I'm not even betting that thinly :(My won at showdown is like 30% the last two days; normally about 55%And no c-bets as bluffs are working... le sigh. Nose to the grind stone. Time to nit it up. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 And no c-bets as bluffs are working... le sigh. Nose to the grind stone. Time to nit it up.Better believe when I c-bet with the nuts the 65/0 0 fold to c-bets snaps it offMerge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterHero (UTG): $10CO: $9.50BTN: $7.90SB: $13.94BB: $4.72Pre-Flop: K K dealt to Hero (UTG)Hero raises to $0.35, 3 folds, BB calls $0.25Flop: ($0.75) K 9 K (2 Players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB foldsResults: $0.75 PotHero showed K K and WON $1.22 (+$0.87 NET)zzzzzzzzzzzz, grind it out me Link to post Share on other sites
KosinTrouble 0 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 You were playing 30/23/19 3bet today Ninja and it felt like you were a super James nit... Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 You guys are all playing this the same right? sb is pretty fishy, bb is like 30/20 over 40 hands. Lots of value to be had on flop turn. Not much on the river.Merge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterHero (UTG): $10.64CO: $4.90BTN: $9.95SB: $7.24BB: $10Pre-Flop: J A dealt to Hero (UTG)Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20Flop: ($0.90) 6 A 5 (3 Players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.75Turn: ($2.40) T (2 Players)BB checks, Hero bets $1.95, BB calls $1.95River: ($6.30) 7 (2 Players)BB checks, Hero checks Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Better believe when I c-bet with the nuts the 65/0 0 fold to c-bets snaps it offMerge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterHero (UTG): $10CO: $9.50BTN: $7.90SB: $13.94BB: $4.72Pre-Flop: K K dealt to Hero (UTG)Hero raises to $0.35, 3 folds, BB calls $0.25Flop: ($0.75) K 9 K (2 Players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB foldsResults: $0.75 PotHero showed K K and WON $1.22 (+$0.87 NET)zzzzzzzzzzzz, grind it out meI know he has a 0 fold to cbet, but I don't think I ever cbet there. Aside from a miracle straight flizzle, you're never losing this hand. Just give'em some rope. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 I know he has a 0 fold to cbet, but I don't think I ever cbet there. Aside from a miracle straight flizzle, you're never losing this hand. Just give'em some rope.Why can't he just have the under-full every time I flop quads? Poker would be so easy Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 You were playing 30/23/19 3bet today Ninja and it felt like you were a super James nit...Loooool :)Yeah I was playing way too many tables... lost a lot of flips early and got some nasty coolers. Felt like I was being played at on a lot of tables. Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Also... action moves waaay quicker on Merge than other sites... I cannot handle nearly as many tables as I'm used to Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 Playing very well today :DLost AA to KK aipf but meh, still crushingKK < AT on AQKX Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Played a 16 hour 5-tabling session yesterday with essentially no breaks. One of the running themes was losing KK 90% of the time. Another theme was villains pulling really fancy slowplays. Two different villains that I played HU min-3bet me, flopped a set, and then checked all the way down. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Played a 16 hour 5-tabling session yesterday with essentially no breaks. One of the running themes was losing KK 90% of the time. Another theme was villains pulling really fancy slowplays. Two different villains that I played HU min-3bet me, flopped a set, and then checked all the way down.It's a TARP!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
QED 4 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Also... action moves waaay quicker on Merge than other sites... I cannot handle nearly as many tables as I'm used toJust means you are old and out of shape imo. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 It's a TARP!!!!!I wanted to type that many many times yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Played a 16 hour 5-tabling session yesterday with essentially no breaks. One of the running themes was losing KK 90% of the time. Another theme was villains pulling really fancy slowplays. Two different villains that I played HU min-3bet me, flopped a set, and then checked all the way down.16 consecutive hours, wow.garf? Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Played live 200nl yesterday for about 12 hours. Played a 16 hour 5-tabling session yesterday with essentially no breaks.There ya go again, showin' me up. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 16 consecutive hours, wow.garf?Working on it.There ya go again, showin' me up. Ha. Believe me, it would've been wiser had I not. Link to post Share on other sites
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