New Challenge: Movin' On Up

[trystero 0]

How doesn't he have 33

[KosinTrouble 0]

How doesn't he have 33

or 99

[trystero 0]

Only James runs into spazzman

[fighter 4]

lol regsMerge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterBB: $10.85Hero (UTG): $10.79MP: $9.75CO: $10BTN: $8.33SB: $10Pre-Flop: A A dealt to Hero (UTG)Hero raises to $0.35, MP folds, CO calls $0.35, 3 foldsFlop: ($0.85) 9 3 K (2 Players)Hero bets $0.60, CO raises to $1.96, Hero raises to $4, CO raises to $9.65 and is All-In, Hero calls $5.65Turn: ($20.15) J (2 Players - 1 is All-In)River: ($20.15) T (2 Players - 1 is All-In)Results: $20.15 Pot ($1 Rake)Hero showed A A and WON $19.15 (+$9.15 NET)CO showed K A and LOST (-$10 NET)

Can you elaborate on why this is lol?

[KingJames 11]

Can you elaborate on why this is lol?

Cause I never have worse when I 3bet the flop; my flop 3betting range would be AA, KK, 99, and 33. I'd call the flop raise with AKMaaaaaaaybe AXcc...And I know his range is also like 33, 99, and maybe some gutters+fd type hands... which he's a huge favorite with.I think vs me (and we have a few hundo hands on one another) it is pretty badWhat are your thoughts?

[droberts 3]

Cause I never have worse when I 3bet the flop; my flop 3betting range would be AA, KK, 99, and 33. I'd call the flop raise with AKMaaaaaaaybe AXcc...And I know his range is also like 33, 99, and maybe some gutters+fd type hands... which he's a huge favorite with.I think vs me (and we have a few hundo hands on one another) it is pretty badWhat are your thoughts?

you wouldnt 3bet flop with QJcc, QTcc, JTcc ? EDIT: idk if QTs is in ur utg range.. but im fairly confident QJs and JTs are

[KingJames 11]

you wouldnt 3bet flop with QJcc, QTcc, JTcc ? EDIT: idk if QTs is in ur utg range.. but im fairly confident QJs and JTs are

prob just call and c.f turn ui

[fighter 4]

Cause I never have worse when I 3bet the flop; my flop 3betting range would be AA, KK, 99, and 33. I'd call the flop raise with AKMaaaaaaaybe AXcc...And I know his range is also like 33, 99, and maybe some gutters+fd type hands... which he's a huge favorite with.I think vs me (and we have a few hundo hands on one another) it is pretty badWhat are your thoughts?

Depends on how you and him have been playing other hands. I can see him thinking that in this spot he only has flush draws and sets. If you had a pair like KQ or even A9, then you have blockers and you could exploit his perceived polarization. If this is the case then this is a good hand to expand into since he is less likely to have it due to pre flop line and it beats all bluff catches. I don't think this is standard. However I also don't think it is lol.

prob just call and c.f turn ui

I don't know how I feel about this. If he is raising Axcc as well as other things. It seems like such a poor RIO spot. We are also OOP and without the lead. Folding them on the flop doesn't really appeal to me either.What is your line when you hit on the turn and what other hands are you doing this with?Anyone else got some thoughts on this?

[KingJames 11]

Depends on how you and him have been playing other hands. I can see him thinking that in this spot he only has flush draws and sets. If you had a pair like KQ or even A9, then you have blockers and you could exploit his perceived polarization. If this is the case then this is a good hand to expand into since he is less likely to have it due to pre flop line and it beats all bluff catches. I don't think this is standard. However I also don't think it is lol.I don't know how I feel about this. If he is raising Axcc as well as other things. It seems like such a poor RIO spot. We are also OOP and without the lead. Folding them on the flop doesn't really appeal to me either.What is your line when you hit on the turn and what other hands are you doing this with?Anyone else got some thoughts on this?

Yeah, lol was probably not the right description. I guess at the very bottom of his value range and having less eq with that than his drawing range just made me feel like he over played teh AK post-flop bc he "tarped" pre (espec as I was at the bottom of my range).wrt all the stuff... I hate hate hate being oop. I think I fold a lot of the JTcc type hands on the flop too bc of his sizing (> 3x) and the rio consequences.That being said, it's an awesome spot for him to bluff raise bc I'm highly exploitable but I also really doubt he will do anything or even notice. I think he's a 6+ tabling reg. I feel like he just did the flat pre and then stack off w/ top pair bc his hand will be under-repped and didn't really consider the villain, just had a standard line when he flats pre. I could be wrong. His stats are 24/19/2.43, 8% 3b, 67% fold to 3b, 70% cbet, 60% fold to cbet, 38% went to sd and 44% won at sd over 281 hands... bolded... that's why I guess I could fold a weak flush draw on the flop. I don't think I call with 33 or 99 very often. And if I did, I would crai if I think he barrels his draws and I would 3b the flop if I think he raises the flop to get a free river with a draw.I'm not balanced and I think that's fine at the micros even vs some of the better regs (he won at 2bb/100 over 15k hands at 4nl and he's a 1bb/100 loser over the first 3k hands at 10nl).

[KingJames 11]

Some of his other handsVillain is CO in this handMerge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterMP: $8.31CO: $10Hero (BTN): $10SB: $8.60BB: $10.49UTG: $10Pre-Flop: 76o dealt to Hero (BTN)2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero folds, SB calls $0.25, BB raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.20, SB foldsFlop: ($3.30) 4 J 8 (2 Players)BB bets $2.35, CO calls $2.35Turn: ($8) K (2 Players)BB raises to $6.64 and is All-In, CO calls $6.15 and is All-InRiver: ($20.30) 9 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)Results: $20.30 Pot ($1.01 Rake)CO showed 9 J and WON $19.29 (+$9.29 NET)BB showed K A and LOST (-$9.90 NET)Villain is CO again in this handMerge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterBB: $2.40Hero (UTG): $20MP: $10.15CO: $10.35BTN: $15.27SB: $10Pre-Flop: K9o dealt to Hero (UTG)2 folds, CO raises to $0.40, BTN raises to $0.87, 2 folds, CO calls $0.47Flop: ($1.89) 7 3 7 (2 Players)CO checks, BTN checksTurn: ($1.89) 3 (2 Players)CO bets $1.26, BTN calls $1.26River: ($4.41) 5 (2 Players)CO checks, BTN bets $4.41, CO calls $4.41Results: $13.23 Pot ($0.66 Rake)CO showed A 5 and WON $12.57 (+$6.03 NET)BTN showed K Q and LOST (-$6.54 NET)

[KingJames 11]

Here is another hand vs him...I am so lost on what to do in these spots so this will be helpful. I never know if I should cbet this type of hand on this type of board. Then I know I need to call the turn when he leads, and as he checked the river with air (he prob thinks I have a Q and won't fold), then when he does lead turn and river vs my missed cbets I should be folding hands that are < tp???Merge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterHero (CO): $10.15BTN: $5.74SB: $19.82BB: $11.17UTG: $10MP: $10Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (CO)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20Flop: ($0.65) 8 Q K (2 Players)BB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($0.65) 4 (2 Players)BB bets $0.48, Hero calls $0.48River: ($1.61) 6 (2 Players)BB checks, Hero checksResults: $1.61 Pot ($0.08 Rake)Hero showed J J and WON $1.53 (+$0.75 NET)BB showed A 3 and LOST (-$0.68 NET)And he's the CO in this handMerge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterUTG: $10.41CO: $18.63Hero (BTN): $13.10SB: $12.10BB: $10Pre-Flop: rags dealt to Hero (BTN)UTG folds, CO raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20Flop: ($0.65) Q T 7 (2 Players)BB checks, CO checksTurn: ($0.65) 4 (2 Players)BB bets $0.40, CO calls $0.40River: ($1.45) 6 (2 Players)BB checks, CO bets $1.15, BB calls $1.15Results: $3.75 Pot ($0.18 Rake)CO showed 8 9 and WON $3.57 (+$1.72 NET)BB showed T A and LOST (-$1.75 NET)

[CobaltBlue 662]

If you told me that I'd win $800 tonight and not be thrilled about it, I'm not sure I would've believed you.Won $1300 on Cake...lost $500 on Bodog.I was +$400 overall quite quickly...and then went -$1k or so at the worst point due to just gobs and gobs of coolers against terrible players that then redistributed to the other good players...so I guess I should be happy with the final result. Swongs.

[trystero 0]

His play with AK is horrible. He's not trying to exploit your lack of balance or anything. he's a 10nl reg on merge. I'm not crazy about your play either w/out history or actual reads

[SuperJon 175]

I don't know how I feel about this. If he is raising Axcc as well as other things. It seems like such a poor RIO spot. We are also OOP and without the lead. Folding them on the flop doesn't really appeal to me either.What is your line when you hit on the turn and what other hands are you doing this with?Anyone else got some thoughts on this?

For the most part, I'm playing my strong draws aggressively, especially when I'm OOP.Pretty easy to balance when I also do it with my strong hands.I think James may have mentioned this, but it can also depend on your opponent. If he raises flops light and likes to barrel the turn. Then flatting the flop, and check/shoving the turn is probably best with all of our hands that have decent equity.

[SuperJon 175]

Here is another hand vs him...I am so lost on what to do in these spots so this will be helpful. I never know if I should cbet this type of hand on this type of board. Then I know I need to call the turn when he leads, and as he checked the river with air (he prob thinks I have a Q and won't fold), then when he does lead turn and river vs my missed cbets I should be folding hands that are < tp???Merge, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterHero (CO): $10.15BTN: $5.74SB: $19.82BB: $11.17UTG: $10MP: $10Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (CO)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20Flop: ($0.65) 8 Q K (2 Players)BB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($0.65) 4 (2 Players)BB bets $0.48, Hero calls $0.48River: ($1.61) 6 (2 Players)BB checks, Hero checksResults: $1.61 Pot ($0.08 Rake)Hero showed J J and WON $1.53 (+$0.75 NET)BB showed A 3 and LOST (-$0.68 NET)Looks good to me. Really tough to get more than 1 street of value on KQxxx when you have JJ.Just cbet it next time and see what he calls with.

[KingJames 11]

I'm not crazy about your play either w/out history or actual reads

But I haz AA

[XXEddie 0]

ZOMG LIFE ****ING TILT.Was finally going to get rid of Comcast in favor of DirecTV(with a free year of NFL Sunday Ticket!), but NO! I'm part of the 2% of people that can't get a clear signal.**** you, giant tree in front of my porch. A BIG **** you!

[trystero 0]

you don't want to be brushing snow off your dish in the dead of winter, anyway

[KingJames 11]

you don't want to be brushing snow off your dish in the dead of winter, anyway

Denver, brah. It almost never snows here. Then you drive 90 minutes west up in the hills and it snows plenty. We have the good life.

[XXEddie 0]

you don't want to be brushing snow off your dish in the dead of winter, anyway

1st story apartment = walk outside and brush it offBesides, DirecTV has gotten exceptionally better every year. My dad got a dish right after they came out. Back then the slightest breeze or drizzle and bye bye signal. Nowadays it takes a lot more to lose a signal. Plus.. DirecTV/Qwest for $60 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comcast's horrible service for $100. We've been debating switching apartments since ours got flooded due to a shitty design. This makes me want to move even more.

[KingJames 11]

oh hi der 25nlMerge, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterMP: $25CO: $33.03BTN: $24.65SB: $47.75BB: $25Hero (UTG): $26.48Pre-Flop: K K dealt to Hero (UTG)Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, BTN raises to $2.76, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN raises to $24.65 and is All-In, Hero calls $18.65Flop: ($49.65) T 7 3 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)Turn: ($49.65) 9 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)River: ($49.65) 4 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)Results: $49.65 Pot ($2.48 Rake)BTN showed A K and LOST (-$24.65 NET)Hero showed K K and WON $47.17 (+$22.52 NET)

[QED 4]

That flop is missing some spades.

[KingJames 11]

That flop is missing some spades.

Sick sweat as I'm playing on that short bankroll tho.I had 14bi for 25nl when I decided to take a shot today. Now I have 16bi o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0Thinking of cashing out my initial deposit amount so that I'm truly free-rolling... nitters gonna nit.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Decent mathy article on winrate/variance:http://www.nsdpoker.com/2011/03/nlhe_6m_pros/

Sick sweat as I'm playing on that short bankroll tho.

I've been playing on 8bi (site-specific) or 40bi (overall) depending on how you look at things.

[SuperJon 175]

Sick sweat as I'm playing on that short bankroll tho.I had 14bi for 25nl when I decided to take a shot today. Now I have 16bi o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0Thinking of cashing out my initial deposit amount so that I'm truly free-rolling... nitters gonna nit.

Sounds good to me. I don't think it's that important to be a BR nit when moving up. Like you shouldn't need 25bi to play in the micros. So the more shots you can take and faster you can move up, the better.Let me know how that cashout goes. I was under the impression we wouldn't be able to cash out, but I haven't really looked into it.