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#81 gkunit20


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Posted 11 November 2005 - 02:09 PM

I'd bet this for three reasons:1. There is a good chance for a split if he calls2. You find out more about him3. There is a slight chance he'll fold

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Posted 13 November 2005 - 11:28 PM

i think this is the sort of hand that dn's style of play is really well suited to. when you know it's going to be a chop you bet aggresively. betting 1000 is definately not the right play because if he plays back over you the decision is going to be difficult. when it's obvious you have the same hand you need to be agressive. all the talk about fearing that he has a K or a J is not the kind of thinking that wins poker tournaments (in my opinion). the kind of thinking that wins poker tournments are hand and situation specific. i think it's pretty obvious our opponent has AQ or QQ. this comes from pure instinct when reading the hand. my instincts aren't always right but trusting them is winning play.

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Posted 13 November 2005 - 11:30 PM

now i feel stupid for realizing that the answer was already posted. stupid idiot.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 02:02 PM

I think you need to be betting here.The raisers flop bet is most likely a continuation bet...in all likelihood, with that board, he has become extremely nervous and suspicous that you called his bet.From villain's perspective, he's probably scared shitless that you called pf with AJ.From MP, he could have a lot of holdings, more than the AK, KQ, AJ that people are limiting him to.hands like 88, 99, TT are all possibilities...Ax suited...AQ, AT.I doubt he leads the flop with a Jack.I doubt he checks the river with a King or Jack...he wouldn't want to lose a bet, and to check he'd have to be dead certain you'd bet at this pot.I don't think you're behind here...he's probably got a pocket pair too, and may even have the other 7's.When you called his flop bet he put you on a pocket pair, a Jack, or two overs, like AK, KQ, etc...in other words, after the turn, villain thinks he's beat.I think you gotta push here - some people (and with good reason) believe a big bet looks suspicious and will get called - yes, that does happen...in my experience, what happens more often is a guy will auto-call if he knows he won't be eliminated...it's a security blanket...take that security blanket away and make him make a decision for all his chips.Mathematically, less than 10% of the time you're beat. So 10% of the time you lose 1700. So, to win the extra 975, you need him to fold 20% of the times you are not behind. I think this is possible....when you factor practicality over probability, I think, practically, you are beat less than 1% of the time.

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Posted 25 December 2005 - 01:18 AM

im pushing this, but im also pushing any K,J and AA for what its worth

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Posted 25 December 2005 - 12:39 PM

Can we lock this?

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Posted 26 December 2005 - 09:46 PM

Check.He could have a number of hands that can beat you, but will call if he thinks he is splitting. You run the risk of getting called with a better hand. My opponent checked the river, so with 1950 in the pot what would you do?(You know nothing about your opponent at all)[/quote]

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Posted 04 January 2006 - 12:39 PM

where's the answer posted?

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 07:16 AM

I miss these quizzes.
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Posted 12 February 2006 - 10:52 AM

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Ok, so it's been a while since the last quizz question, but as you can tell I haven't been playing much.  Well today I played in an online no limit tournament when the following hand came down:Blinds: 50-100Stage: Level 5  One player limped for 100, a middle position player made it 350, and I called on the button with 7 7.  The flop came J J J and the pre-flop raiser bet 500.  I had about 2500 left and my opponent had about 1700 left after betting the 500.  I called the bet leaving myself with 2000.  The turn came a King and my opponent checked, as did I.  The river came another King for a final board of J J J K K, meaning that I was now playing the board.  My opponent checked the river, so with 1950 in the pot what would you do?(You know nothing about your opponent at all)
I think it is a check because, the only hand you could have would be AA a K and a Q, you didn't represent the King on the turn and he could have you beat if you go all in, and he could have AA or a King or a Queen, which are all reasonable hands to check.
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 01:11 PM

View Postscreech, on Monday, October 17th, 2005, 3:43 AM, said:

I'm suprised no one has said fold. We only have a full house, seven kicker. We gotta let this one go. :roll: I am usually just checking here. You're check on the turn will probably induce your opponent to call with anything. Since betting rarely gains anything, just check.
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 06:20 AM

all in. He would of bet either the king or jack.

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Posted 18 March 2006 - 01:00 AM

Theres no reason for him to check the river. If he had a AK he would value bet the river thinking you might be playing the board (which you are). Checking tells me he raised with a hand similar to daniels, maybe 9-9. Daniels best play here is to push & see if his opponent forgets the board is the best hand. Some people will fold to a all-in push, its the only way to take down this pot, even if he calls with his 9-9 its a split pot & no harm done but atleast a stab is taken.

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Posted 18 March 2006 - 08:12 AM

I bet here ...I would suspect from middle position he had a good hand to start. When he checked the King it would lead me to guess he had QQ to start which is why he bet the flop and the King beat him so he checks the turn. When he checks the river he's still convinced he's beat so I would take a stab at it ... if he has the Jack or King so be it. If he has QQ you might take this one away so I would make it a pot-sized bet and see what happens.Matt
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Posted 18 March 2006 - 04:27 PM

i think this is an easy check.Theres no need to risk all of your chips or even 1k of your chips on what is essentially a guess(particularly in tournament play). I do believe that this is likely a chop but never the less, it's difficult to be sure against an opponent that you don't have too much information on. He could be a very crafty player who is trapping you. Or he could be a weak player, who you won't get too fold even if he holds a hand like 99,1010,JJ anyway. So just play it safe and check. Think of how proud of yourself you would be if he turns over AK,KK,KQ and it's not the end of the world if he turns over AQ or JJ because you still split.

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 06:23 AM

As much as I want to say check (and i do think it is the correct play most of the time), the opportunites in tournaments to get chips are slim and none, so sometimes when opoortunities arise, you must try to pounce on them. This could be one of those cases.If the villian is holding a smaller PP or A high in this situation, and you check it down and see that he does, you'd be kicking yourself for not jamming because you would have missed the opportunity to try to eat that pot right there and steal a 1950 pot. If you go all-in, would he have the balls to call? Like Doyle says, you want to put your opponent into making a decision for all of his chips. I say in "playing the board" situations like this one, you'd like to be first to bet on the river so you try to win the pot that is 95% of the time split. You'd be amazed at how many times I have jammed on the river in a obvious split pot situation and the opponent didn't even call for an obvious chopped pot.The danger is of course that he has quad jacks, Kings full, or AA. But wouldn't he bet the river if he did, however?
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Posted 26 March 2006 - 10:50 AM

What was Daniel's answer to this quiz? I browsed through all five pages and could not find it. :club:

View PostDanielNegreanu, on Monday, October 17th, 2005, 11:25 AM, said:

Excellent discussion guys, keep it up!

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