JasonBo 0 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Card Player BUY IN$10,000 TOTAL PRIZE POOL$82,512,162 ENTRIES8,773total chips should be on table87730000Poker wire according tot he chip counts showTotal Chips on Table 86776000 divide that by 10k 8677.6 buyinswere missing some chipsabout 954000Pokerpages.com reporting total $86,752,600.00 total entries 8675.26Difference of 977400 NOw see if i was an auditor this is where i lose my job Link to post Share on other sites
Maastonacci 0 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 disqualifications? or maybe it's just a mistake they made.. Link to post Share on other sites
Ecclesbury 0 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 There has been at least 1 reported disqualification. Perhaps there have been more unreported ones. The one I read about was a player who was putting chips in his pocket becuase a friend had told him that he could do it. With so many internet players in the ME with little to no casino experience, perhaps there were quite a few disqualifications along these lines. Or perhaps not!Actually wait. I just properly read the opening post, and those numbers are quite large!!Perhaps, and I know this is a long shot, CP made a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites
tentenoffsuit 0 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I'm guessing chip counts are off... or just estimations and not exactly on... plus disqualifications ect. ect. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 i'm pretty sure there was only one disqualification.don't know, but much more likely its a mistake, like they left a 0 off someone's chip count. Link to post Share on other sites
Lasombra 0 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 those missing chips are probably in William thorssons stackaccording to cardplayer he has 168k so probably missing a 0 there. he has above 1.5 mil Link to post Share on other sites
da_beartrap 0 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 well part of the missing money is taken out of the prize pool. if you look at the buyin it is 10k flat. no add'l money for the house. the missing money is probably the difference that was taken for the house, for the dealers, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
SeanPhillippi 0 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 well part of the missing money is taken out of the prize pool. if you look at the buyin it is 10k flat. no add'l money for the house. the missing money is probably the difference that was taken for the house, for the dealers, etc.They do take that out of the prize pool, but not the chips in play. So, you get 10k in chips even though they do not put that whole amount in the prize pool. That means they buy-in total and the chip total should be the same. I am sure it is a minor error that doesn't make a difference. Link to post Share on other sites
blacktie31 0 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 well part of the missing money is taken out of the prize pool. if you look at the buyin it is 10k flat. no add'l money for the house. the missing money is probably the difference that was taken for the house, for the dealers, etc. Yea, plus the dealers tips in T-Chips. I'm pretty sure everybody starts with 10000 in chips Link to post Share on other sites
baker415 0 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 There is a large secondary market for chips, check ebay. My dad goes to vegas often for chip conventions. Some of the rare chips can go for quite a large amount of money. Although this is not a tourney chip, here is an auction for one of the much discussed all in chip: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-2006-WSOP-Main-Eve...1QQcmdZViewItem Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBo 0 Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 Card Player BUY IN$10,000 TOTAL PRIZE POOL$82,512,162 ENTRIES8,773total chips should be on table87730000Poker wire according tot he chip counts showTotal Chips on Table 86776000 divide that by 10k 8677.6 buyinswere missing some chipsabout 954000Pokerpages.com reporting total $86,752,600.00 total entries 8675.26Difference of 977400 NOw see if i was an auditor this is where i lose my jobNew total posted 89831000 so now there is more chips then players listed Link to post Share on other sites
stevedar 0 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 option 1...they aren't getting everyones count at the same time.option 2...some chips would disappear or appear while chipping up colorsoption 3...??? Link to post Share on other sites
yergan 0 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 option 1...they aren't getting everyones count at the same time.option 2...some chips would disappear or appear while chipping up colorsOption 1: Seems quite reasonableOption 2: You dont lose or gain anychips at colour ups. Link to post Share on other sites
stevedar 0 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 how do they do it then...with table changes and all there aren't even colors at each table...not saying you're wrong I just don't know Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJoe 0 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Option 2: You dont lose or gain anychips at colour ups.sure you do, during the chip race if there isn't an even number of spare chips, then there has to be some added or some taken away.e.g.coloring up $100 to $500 chips, now say there is 23 100 chips on the table, that means there is 3 spare, say three players each have one chip. These are raced off by high card, the highest card gets a $500 chip. shazam! $200 in chips added to the table. Link to post Share on other sites
yergan 0 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 sure you do, during the chip race if there isn't an even number of spare chips, then there has to be some added or some taken away.e.g.coloring up $100 to $500 chips, now say there is 23 100 chips on the table, that means there is 3 spare, say three players each have one chip. These are raced off by high card, the highest card gets a $500 chip. shazam! $200 in chips added to the table.My bad. Didnt think that they do colour ups table by table. Link to post Share on other sites
pokergeekinaz 0 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 For the prize pool, Harrah's takes out 6% of the buyins to pay the dealers, staff, etc. Check the WSOP website, the tournament structure is up there if you look for it. But I don't think that the prize pool is really 94% of the buyins.BTW, since Cardplayer is the contracted online media source for the WSOP, I give more creditability to their numbers than any others. they still might be wrong, but I kinda doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites
Potomophobia 17 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Just a few words;Of course the details are a mess.This is America: the land of the loud and arrogantthe land of the connected and incompetentthe land of corporate greedthe land of the few....who want to keep it as few as possiblethe land where it isnt what you know its who you knowDetails? Who cares about details. Just rake several million off the top, run a half assed operation and get rich. Leave the peons to clean up the mess.The sheep will be back next year and we will fleece them again. Link to post Share on other sites
PotDragon 0 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 The sheep will be back next year and we will fleece them again.Sad but true.Baaaaaaaaaaa ! Link to post Share on other sites
pdaconq9 0 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Just a few words;Of course the details are a mess.This is America: the land of the loud and arrogantthe land of the connected and incompetentthe land of corporate greedthe land of the few....who want to keep it as few as possiblethe land where it isnt what you know its who you knowDetails? Who cares about details. Just rake several million off the top, run a half assed operation and get rich. Leave the peons to clean up the mess.The sheep will be back next year and we will fleece them again.New S/N, Harry? Link to post Share on other sites
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