pocketz 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Had a couple general questions on how people around here handle different situations that i noticed on HSP.First off is the showing of cards to another player, I think it was around ep 2 or so, and i think it was laak that showed his cards to whoever it was next to him before mucking. Is this normal? for my home game i try to keep it at show one show all. We have alot of friends and couples that play together and i think it gives an unfair advantage for one person to see what the other is folding?comments.Next one is on the last ep (8) think it was laak and giang, giang bluffed at it and raised and laak him'd and hawed before calling, than giang mucks, and i believe it was daniel that asked to see laak's card. Again maybe a silly home game rule, but does the initial raiser not have to show? The announcers said that is ok to ask to see the winning hand , but not to see the losers.from roberts rules i got this.(Any player who has been dealt in may request to see any hand that has been called, even if theopponent's hand or the winning hand has been mucked)maybe i read it wrong, whats anyone elses opinions,thanks Link to post Share on other sites
scottyno 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 you see it on tv a lot, when someone gets caught bluffing they usually just tap the table to signify they got caught and the other guy shows his winning hand that he called with, if someone wanted to they could ask to see the bluffers hand, but its bad etiquette, and could be considiered to be rubbing it in on the guy whose bluff attempt just got picked off Link to post Share on other sites
ilovejulie 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Minh Ly, Not Chau Ghiang... and etiquette, not etiquitecarry on....... Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 When you play cash at a casino if you show one you have to show alland a player can ask to see the losers cards in a showdown but it's considered bad for unless you feel that they are colluding Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Laak should really have been careful on that hand I think. With Ming's cards not hitting the muck and then his cards getting mixed in, I'm not sure if there could have been an issue if some one wanted to be a jerk about it. Link to post Share on other sites
rockytrh 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Laak should really have been careful on that hand I think. With Ming's cards not hitting the muck and then his cards getting mixed in, I'm not sure if there could have been an issue if some one wanted to be a jerk about it.I don't think the guys at that level want to be a jerk about petty stuff like that. That would spread around the whole high stakes community and that player would be blacklisted from all the big private cash games Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I don't think the guys at that level want to be a jerk about petty stuff like that. That would spread around the whole high stakes community and that player would be blacklisted from all the big private cash gamesI agree. Just saying cause some ****** at the Bellagio tried to pull something on me when I caught him in a bluff. Not thinking I pushed my cards toward the dealer and the guy tried to say I mucked and turned his hand over. Ended up working out fine for me... but watching the episode brought it to mind. Link to post Share on other sites
rockytrh 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I agree. Just saying cause some ****** at the Bellagio tried to pull something on me when I caught him in a bluff. Not thinking I pushed my cards toward the dealer and the guy tried to say I mucked and turned his hand over. Ended up working out fine for me... but watching the episode brought it to mind.id be willin to bet everybody at the table, and probably 2 tables over thought that guy was a **** Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I was suprised to see so many of the players on HSP open farelling. Although it is a good play to have in the arsenal Link to post Share on other sites
Deltha 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 regarding ethics... what do you guys think of Daniel imitating Minh ly when he talks to him (or as he calls it Minh talk). For some reason it bothers me, why, i'm not quite sure. Minh doesn't really seem to care, so i guess its a moot point, but i'm curious to hear what you all think? Funny? Disrespectful? Link to post Share on other sites
loggerhead 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 regarding ethics... what do you guys think of Daniel imitating Minh ly when he talks to himI don't like it. Maybe it's a tactic, though. Link to post Share on other sites
herokid7 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 First of all DN making fun of Minh is hilarious. DN and Minh are friends and friends make fun of each other sometimes. Secondly, about the "show one show all" rule. About half the people I talk to say that rule is about showing the table just one card. Other people says its about showing just one player your cards. I play at a casino down here in Biloxi. There rule is "show one show all" is about showing only one card. But, you don't have to show both unless asked by another player. It's ok to show another player your hand without showing everybody else. Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 at the casino I play at if you show one player your cards you have to show the whole table, usually if someone asks but I've seen dealers show a hand without anyone asking followed by saying "show one show all". The rule makes sense because if your going to give one player an advantage by letting him see cards then you should show everyone not allowing only one player the information. Link to post Share on other sites
pocketz 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 First of all DN making fun of Minh is hilarious. DN and Minh are friends and friends make fun of each other sometimes. Secondly, about the "show one show all" rule. About half the people I talk to say that rule is about showing the table just one card. Other people says its about showing just one player your cards. I play at a casino down here in Biloxi. There rule is "show one show all" is about showing only one card. But, you don't have to show both unless asked by another player. It's ok to show another player your hand without showing everybody else.you have to show both to win the pot if that what it comes down to , as for the showing cards to your neighbours, roberts rules says Show one, show all. Players are entitled to receive equal access to information about the contentsof another player's hand. After a deal, if cards are shown to another player, every player at the"Robert's Rules of Poker"8 Show one, show all. Players are entitled to receive equal access to information about the contentsof another player's hand. After a deal, if cards are shown to another player, every player at thetable has a right to see those cards. During a deal, cards that were shown to an active player whomight have a further wagering decision on that betting round must immediately be shown to allthe other players. If the player who saw the cards is not involved in the deal, or cannot use theinformation in wagering, the information should be withheld until the betting is over, so it doesnot affect the normal outcome of the deal. Cards shown to a person who has no more wageringdecisions on that betting round, but might use the information on a later betting round, should beshown to the other players at the conclusion of that betting round. If only a portion of the handhas been shown, there is no requirement to show any of the unseen cards. The shown cards areand yes i meant ming, had it type first, but did it after work this am and was wooped, Link to post Share on other sites
AcesUp46 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Show one, show all. period. nuff said. Now let's move on to discussing Phil Hellmuth. Link to post Share on other sites
eYank 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 there is no rule, show one show all!there was a whole cardplayer article about itbut usually if u want to see the initial rasiers cars they r supposed to show Link to post Share on other sites
wwmoon85 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 regarding ethics... what do you guys think of Daniel imitating Minh ly when he talks to him (or as he calls it Minh talk). For some reason it bothers me, why, i'm not quite sure. Minh doesn't really seem to care, so i guess its a moot point, but i'm curious to hear what you all think? Funny? Disrespectful?well daniel and minh are friends so Im sure minh doesnt mind. Im asian and I dont care if one of my friends start imitating my accent as long as its all in good fun. It would sort of piss me off though if I got bluffed out of a big pot or something and they started doin it to needle me.. Link to post Share on other sites
jowest 0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 there is no rule, show one show all!there was a whole cardplayer article about itbut usually if u want to see the initial rasiers cars they r supposed to showIf you are going to reference an article, at least read it. You are wrong. here is the very article you reference that INCLUDES the rule.http://www.cardplayer.com/magazine/article/15532 Link to post Share on other sites
pocketz 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 gonna have to get that Bob Ciaffone’s rulebook , i normally go by roberts rules, allthough most games at my house involve too much beer to read rules so its not that big of a deal, Just kinda wonder how the pros and other deal with it Link to post Share on other sites
HappyG 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I was suprised to see so many of the players on HSP open farelling. Although it is a good play to have in the arsenal Are you sure you weren't watching Annie Duke takes on the world? Link to post Share on other sites
NicksDad1970 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 there is no rule, show one show all!there was a whole cardplayer article about itbut usually if u want to see the initial rasiers cars they r supposed to showI guess it depends where you play....at The Grand in Tunica they have the show one show all both ways. If you show one person your cards you have to show everyone. Also for some reason they say if you show one card you have to show both. That makes no sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 In the HSP in question didn't Laak show his hand to someone who wasn't playing? Show one, show all only applies if you show a player not a random passerby. Mikey should show Sheiky all he wanted and Laak could show Jennifer Tilly if he chose.As for show one, show all meaning if you show one card you have to show both ... I remember one show where DN showed one card and someone said show one, show all and they actually made (or tried to make) DN show the 2nd card. I don't think that's a standard interpretation of the rule though. Link to post Share on other sites
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