New Challenge: Movin' On Up

[SuperJon 175]

Villain is standard reg/tagFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersSB: $25.64 (Hero)BB: $25.00 UTG: $52.91 UTG+1: $24.75 CO: $27.40 Button: $68.33 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with (6 players)UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.65, BB foldsFlop: ($1.75) (2 players)Hero bets $1, UTG raises to $3, Hero calls $2Turn: ($7.75) (2 players)Hero bets $5.25, UTG calls $5.25River: ($18.25) (2 players)Hero bets $16.64 and is all-in, UTG calls $16.64Hero showed , and won ($49.53) with three of a kind, EightsUTG showed , and lost with a pair of KingsHero won $49.53(Rake: $2)SB is unknown and BB is huge fishy Milked from the teat of a feral cowPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 5 playersCO: $29.14 (Hero)Button: $23.55 SB: $25.26 BB: $24.42 UTG: $21.69 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (5 players)UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.75, Button folds, SB raises to $2.25, BB calls $2, Hero calls $1.50Flop: ($6.75) (3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4, SB raises to $10.75, BB folds, Hero raises to $26.89 and is all-in, SB calls $12.26 and is all-inTurn: ($52.77) (2 players)River: ($52.77) (2 players)Hero showed , and won ($50.77) with four of a kind, JacksSB showed , and lost with a full house, Aces full of JacksHero won $50.77(Rake: $2)

[KingJames 11]

JJ looks real good.I might check the turn on the 88 hand. He raised your flop donk which standard TAGs will do with some air, so I think it's best to let them have another shot at bluffing. If he has AQ there he prob folds the turn, so vs his range I think c/c or crai might be best. wug thoughts?

[SuperJon 175]

JJ looks real good.I might check the turn on the 88 hand. He raised your flop donk which standard TAGs will do with some air, so I think it's best to let them have another shot at bluffing. If he has AQ there he prob folds the turn, so vs his range I think c/c or crai might be best. wug thoughts?

The problem I saw with checking the turn is that he's probably only bluffing his complete airball hands, and I just think a bigger part of his range is going to be A10+, 97, 9J, JQ, KQ+The only hands I think he's betting the turn with are maybe a flush draw if he thinks he picked up some equity, and then obviously like sets/2 pair hands. I think he's checking behind the rest of his range, including AK.In a nutshell, other than his air hands, I think he can still have some hands in his range (pairs, draws, etc) that will call a turn bet, but check behind when checked to.

[KingJames 11]

Yeah that seems reasonable, nh sir

[SuperJon 175]

ty siri think i'm gonna go do a sit up

[KingJames 11]

ty siri think i'm gonna go do a sit up

do lots of them!Still not smoking??Cardillo is the terribad player. Flint is a reg.thoughts??Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO Hero: $25.70 Button TopFreeroll: $36.56 SB flint09: $25.41 BB cardillo: $13.26 UTG JamesFelicio: $25.00 UTG+1 Jay-Ratliff: $30.56 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, TopFreeroll folds, flint09 calls $0.65, cardillo calls $0.50Flop: ($2.25) (3 players)flint09 checks, cardillo bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25, flint09 calls $2.25Turn: ($9.00) (3 players)flint09 checks, cardillo checks, Hero checksRiver: ($9.00) (3 players)flint09 checks, cardillo bets $4.75, Hero folds, flint09 calls $4.75

Cardillo had K6Flint09 had KQ

[SuperJon 175]

Looks good to me.Yup, still not smoking. It's made doing cardio wayyyy easier.Always nice to start the week off strong

[KingJames 11]

nice giraffe imo!!

[fighter 4]

do lots of them!Still not smoking??Cardillo is the terribad player. Flint is a reg.thoughts??Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO Hero: $25.70 Button TopFreeroll: $36.56 SB flint09: $25.41 BB cardillo: $13.26 UTG JamesFelicio: $25.00 UTG+1 Jay-Ratliff: $30.56 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, TopFreeroll folds, flint09 calls $0.65, cardillo calls $0.50Flop: ($2.25) (3 players)flint09 checks, cardillo bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25, flint09 calls $2.25Turn: ($9.00) (3 players)flint09 checks, cardillo checks, Hero checksRiver: ($9.00) (3 players)flint09 checks, cardillo bets $4.75, Hero folds, flint09 calls $4.75

Cardillo had K6Flint09 had KQ

The reg overcall on the flop is Q minimum. So nice hand.

[SuperJon 175]

UTG is HUUUUUUGGGEEE fish, so overshove is pretty standard for me here. 8 tabling atm and didn't see button was in, but it worked out anyways adn im all about the results baby.Converting hands till the cows come homePokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersButton: $25.00 SB: $33.61 BB: $20.94 UTG: $40.62 UTG+1: $26.56 (Hero)CO: $38.13 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)UTG raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $3.75, CO folds, Button calls $3.75, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.50Flop: ($11.60) (3 players)UTG bets $1.50, Hero raises to $22.81 and is all-in, Button calls $21.25 and is all-in, UTG calls $21.31Turn: ($78.47) (3 players)River: ($78.47) (3 players)Button showed , and lost with a pair of KingsUTG showed , and lost with a pair of QueensHero showed , and won ($76.47) with a pair of AcesHero won $76.47(Rake: $2)

[KingJames 11]

wow

[SuperJon 175]

that's what i thought when i saw his hand.also, i won't lie. i did get a little nervous when he turned a Q and picked up a little bit of equity. i think my monitor would've been out my window if he binked the river.

[KingJames 11]

that's what i thought when i saw his hand.also, i won't lie. i did get a little nervous when he turned a Q and picked up a little bit of equity. i think my monitor would've been out my window if he binked the river.

Tommy Angelo brah... TILTLESSbut for real that would have been the sickest shit ever if he runnered you there... a good sweat is good for you thoI watched MNF, the baseball and I'm doing homework... not as much fun as pokerz... tomorrow tho

[Ninja Ace 1]

Damn... i quit poker to start development work and the whole forum gets killed off and FTP has apparently actually been rigged. (why have there been no posts here about the bot bust like seriously makes me rage? I mean, intentionally letting bots on their site to make the games tougher cuz they have the "perfect" customers for years and no one says a word?)Anyhow...who's interested in running their own poker tips Premium text message service? Anyone interested in a team effort? I got all the tech to get it done... just suck at promo and wording things the way people like reading without feeling yelled atedt: also, if you have any other premium text message services you want to run obv i can hook that up too

[fighter 4]

Damn... i quit poker to start development work and the whole forum gets killed off and FTP has apparently actually been rigged. (why have there been no posts here about the bot bust like seriously makes me rage? I mean, intentionally letting bots on their site to make the games tougher cuz they have the "perfect" customers for years and no one says a word?)Anyhow...who's interested in running their own poker tips Premium text message service? Anyone interested in a team effort? I got all the tech to get it done... just suck at promo and wording things the way people like reading without feeling yelled atedt: also, if you have any other premium text message services you want to run obv i can hook that up too

I have heard nothing about your first paragraph. Links?Also your Text service, You mean like these ?http://www.pokersoftware.com/player-stalker/http://www.playergps.com/index.asphttp://pokerprolabs.com/smartbuddy/?af=pok...ftware&bn=3or do you mean written tips like the ones in here and this ?If the latter then I don't see how we can compete against the training sites or forums without a big name player. Even the established poker news mags have these sort of services. http://www.bluffmagazine.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4442 I think a better idea is to steal stories from literotica and send them through a mobile service. Heck hire one of the dead beats from over there (they are writing if for free atm, should get a good price per original story for service) and have them tailor make them to end at really interesting points every 160 characters and you probably something worth wild. Have the price of the texts increase the further along in the story they get and I doubt horny guys will stop half way through. You can advertise it on two levels. The first being to christian types "it isn't porn and your not hurting anyone" The second to the real wack jobs "watching this wouldn't be legal, reading it is" and have the stories use animals and childrenIt already has an established market ( same guys who use phone sex) and you can under cut them and still make a massive profit since you can use the same stories repeatedly and don't need to have an individual female for every texter.

[Ninja Ace 1]

I have heard nothing about your first paragraph. Links?Also your Text service, You mean like these ?http://www.pokersoftware.com/player-stalker/http://www.playergps.com/index.asphttp://pokerprolabs.com/smartbuddy/?af=pok...ftware&bn=3or do you mean written tips like the ones in here and this ?If the latter then I don't see how we can compete against the training sites or forums without a big name player. Even the established poker news mags have these sort of services. http://www.bluffmagazine.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4442 I think a better idea is to steal stories from literotica and send them through a mobile service. Heck hire one of the dead beats from over there (they are writing if for free atm, should get a good price per original story for service) and have them tailor make them to end at really interesting points every 160 characters and you probably something worth wild. Have the price of the texts increase the further along in the story they get and I doubt horny guys will stop half way through. You can advertise it on two levels. The first being to christian types "it isn't porn and your not hurting anyone" The second to the real wack jobs "watching this wouldn't be legal, reading it is" and have the stories use animals and childrenIt already has an established market ( same guys who use phone sex) and you can under cut them and still make a massive profit since you can use the same stories repeatedly and don't need to have an individual female for every texter.

Everything about the full tilt dealy is in here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/inter...-cheats-898155/Also, I see all sorts of poker services in your links, but 0 SMS services. You have to understand there is a world away from internet poker, and I'm seeing 3 trends right now that point to this being a great market to jump into1) Live poker is jumping up all around the US. Lots more players are getting interested.2) Premium SMS isn't fully saturated but ready to explode.3) Most "cutting edge" developers are doing what they always do, and that's jump on the bandwagon and hope to make tail end bucks. They're all stuck making Facebook, iPhone, and Blackberry specific apps at the momentMarketing towards online nerds would fail very very hard. However, most brick and mortar players are also the type who do not frequent the internet. The mass of degen noobies you are targeting are also unlikely to a) have smart phones and b) if they do, use them to their full potentialOh, and one more pro about it. Overhead is effectively nil, for me right now it's literally zero, and it only becomes an issue once you need increased bandwidth... but you'll only need that when you have a large paying userbase.My time and effort right now has been launching a text service geared towards AA and NA members. It's up and running in beta right now. Service functions fine. Don't have the 5 grand for a short code number, but the short code only really helps with the initial call as most people save numbers to their phone. However, this project is so easily expandable to other realms I'm very willing to work with others and provide them an easy way to get such apps up and running

[KingJames 11]

Well I can still win at 25nl... due to my conservative stop-loss at 50nl I hope to win a bit more and get my RB and take another 50nl shot end of the month or beginning of Nov.This hasn't happened in a while... remember the run goot:1) they need to hit the 3 good outs2) they need to believe tptk is teh nuts (it is obv)3) they stack off4) they don't binkboooooooooooooooooomFeral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersBB: $28.14 UTG: $33.05 UTG+1: $25.00 CO: $25.42 (Hero)Button: $25.00 SB: $42.46 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)UTG raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.50Flop: ($4.85) (3 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG raises to $6, Hero raises to $23.17, and is all in, UTG calls $17.17Turn: ($51.19) (3 players)River: ($51.19) (3 players)UTG showed , and lost with a pair of QueensHero showed , and won ($48.64) with a pair of KingsHero won $48.64(Rake: $2.55)

[KingJames 11]

Damn... i quit poker to start development work and the whole forum gets killed off and FTP has apparently actually been rigged.

oh hey nerdgl

[KingJames 11]

Cows play poker with cow chipsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO: $25.00 (Hero)Button: $26.17 SB: $28.61 BB: $17.23 UTG: $34.20 UTG+1: $15.28 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 3 foldsFlop: ($1.85) (2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1, UTG+1 calls $1Turn: ($3.85) (2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG+1 raises to $13.53, and is all in, Hero calls $11.03River: ($30.91) (2 players)Hero showed , and won ($29.37) with two pair, Aces and ThreesUTG+1 showed , and lost with two pair, Fours and ThreesHero won $29.37(Rake: $1.54)

[SuperJon 175]

some quality gems from this eveningjust want to point out you guys should be cautious of ever trying these moves out at the lower stakes. Obviously have to check river and let him bluff off some more money to me. Your converted hand, now with more cowbell.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersUTG: $7.08 (Hero)UTG+1: $2.03 CO: $4.62 Button: $3.08 SB: $1.45 BB: $5.00 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with :club: (6 players)Hero raises to $0.04, 2 folds, Button calls $0.04, SB folds, BB calls $0.02Flop: ($0.13) (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.16, Button calls $0.16, BB foldsTurn: ($0.45) (2 players)Hero bets $0.12, Button calls $0.12River: ($0.69) (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $0.34, Hero calls $0.34Hero showed , and won ($1.31) with a pair of ThreesButton showed , and lost with a pair of DeucesHero won $1.31(Rake: $0.06)With the 2nd nut flush draw and backdoor straight draws, i'm looking to get it in on this flop. i think turn is standard to min bet and get him to spazz into my nuts. on the river, after he just flats the turn, i'm probably good here 100%, so i just tried to go for max value with another min bet.Dont have a cow, heres your converted handPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersUTG: $4.82 (Hero)UTG+1: $2.00 CO: $4.65 Button: $5.36 SB: $1.58 BB: $1.56 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with (6 players)Hero raises to $0.14, 2 folds, Button calls $0.14, 2 foldsFlop: ($0.31) (2 players)Hero bets $0.02, Button raises to $0.16, Hero raises to $0.72, Button calls $0.56Turn: ($1.75) (2 players)Hero bets $0.02, Button calls $0.02River: ($1.79) (2 players)Hero bets $0.02, Button foldsHero collected $1.71(Rake: $0.08)Like I said earlier you don't want to make these moves against fishes at the lower stakes. this is level 7 thinking so i won't go into any details about meta game against this guy or the odds of how often he's folding to make this bluff proftbalFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersCO: $3.89 (Hero)Button: $2.00 SB: $4.66 BB: $6.62 UTG: $1.62 UTG+1: $1.56 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with (6 players)UTG checks, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.13, 2 folds, BB calls $0.11, UTG foldsFlop: ($0.27) (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.33, BB calls $0.33Turn: ($0.93) (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.68, BB calls $0.68River: ($2.29) (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $2.75 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero collected $2.20, Hero shows(Rake: $0.11)Last but not least like my man Barry G said "math is idiotic". you just gotta go with your gut sometimes and say "gut, if you're telling me i'm gonna hit my card to win, then i can't fold"Milked from the teat of a feral cowPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 5 playersSB: $2.00 (Hero)BB: $2.00 UTG: $4.70 CO: $8.62 Button: $1.58 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with (5 players)UTG folds, CO calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checksFlop: ($0.08) (4 players)Hero bets $0.10, BB folds, CO raises to $8.60 and is all-in, Button folds, Hero calls $1.88 and is all-inTurn: ($4.04) (2 players)River: ($4.04) (2 players)Hero showed , and won ($3.84) with three of a kind, SevensCO showed , and lost with two pair, Aces and SevensHero won $3.84(Rake: $0.20)

[KingJames 11]

Hero shows

hof nice hands all around, expert play and we could all learn a lot and try to apply it to our own games

[KosinTrouble 0]

LOL, nice hands!Love the min (0.02) bet into 1.67 on the turn and river to take down the pot!Kosin Trouble

[babylondonks 5]

Is there any merit to jamming the turn?? If he has AA I'm calling the river regardless... I'm so lost

If I some how misclicked called pre I play post the same way. There is zero merit to jamming the turn.

This

Feels gooooood to win a hand!!Converted by a herd of feral cowsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersCO: $26.10 Button: $32.19 SB: $40.81 BB: $25.00 UTG: $25.99 (Hero)UTG+1: $36.89 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, SB calls $0.65, BB foldsFlop: ($1.75) (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9.25, SB calls $6.25Turn: ($20.25) (2 players)SB bets $30.81, and is all in, Hero calls $15.99, and is all inRiver: ($52.23) (2 players)SB showed , and lost with a pair of TensHero showed , and won ($49.62) with three of a kind, SevensHero won $49.62(Rake: $2.61)

But imagine if you won the hand at 50nl, you'd have won twice as much!!!

[KingJames 11]

But imagine if you won the hand at 50nl, you'd have won twice as much!!!

I really hud

[KosinTrouble 0]

But imagine if you won the hand at 50nl, you'd have won twice as much!!!

What Babylondonks said but with this appended to it...Kosin Trouble