KingJames 11 Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 gl, QED!Milked from the teat of a feral cowFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersSB mcd9999: $8.85 BB Team AWSM: $27.08 UTG PunkAss77: $47.59 UTG+1 Lerboller: $27.56 CO Hero: $25.00 Button Drathahn: $4.93 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, Drathahn calls $0.75, mcd9999 raises to $8.85, and is all in, Team AWSM folds, Hero raises to $25, and is all in, Drathahn foldsFlop: ($18.70) (2 players)Turn: ($18.70) (2 players)River: ($18.70) (2 players)mcd9999 showed , and won ($17.77) with a straight, Ace highHero showed , and lost with a pair of Acesmcd9999 won $17.77(Rake: $0.93) Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Purchased HEM today, celebrated by moving back down to 10NL. Lost the last of my shot money at 25NL with an OESFD that bricked, standard. Managed around 4.7k hands at 25NL, don't think I played very well but I wasn't very lucky either.Yeah get used to using that HUD before you try 25NL again. You'll get killed there flying blind.GL you'll be back in no time. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 How to correctly jam every hand at 1c/2c Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 if I hadn't met you last month, I would doubt your existence Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 ROFL at scooping a $46 pot at $2nl... new record? I salute captain Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Wish I saved some rungood for 100nl today though Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 gross, babs Converting hands till the cows come homeFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersButton: $21.37 SB: $25.00 BB: $25.80 UTG: $27.18 (Hero)UTG+1: $14.05 CO: $25.86 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, 4 foldsFlop: ($1.85) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 checksTurn: ($1.85) (2 players)Hero bets $1.25, UTG+1 calls $1.25River: ($4.35) (2 players)Hero bets $25.18, and is all in, UTG+1 calls $12.05, and is all inHero showed , and won ($27.03) with four of a kind, SevensUTG+1 mucked Hero won $27.03(Rake: $1.42) Link to post Share on other sites
QED 4 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Yeah get used to using that HUD before you try 25NL again. You'll get killed there flying blind.GL you'll be back in no time.Thanks, I hope I will be too. I've been using free trials of Poker tracker and HEM for a while so I have some idea of how to use a HUD but it does take a while to build up a decent sample size on people. Fish are pretty obvious by what they buy in for usually. Link to post Share on other sites
Manign 0 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I no longer understand poker. I try playing tight, but aggressive, yet I'll only lose. Should I go in all-in preflop with pocket aces? Or should I slow play them? I usually play them from any position, but not anymore. It's actually funny, because with pocket aces, I am supposed to lose. Lost my entire ****ing bankroll with pocket aces, over and over and over and over. Should I start playing with 23o and 83o? I mean, after only losing consistently playing how you guys play, it seems you're just getting lucky, or I'm supposed to only lose. Can you guys tell me? I can't put my brain around it.I've tried every style there is, and every single change of gear only generates loss. I shoot for lose the minimum, gain the maximum, but it's actually the other way around. If, by the holiest of chances I do get a winner, I'll have only gotten a few blinds for it, but that's once in a million. I'll manipulate the odds to make sure the person isn't getting the odds of getting a backdoor straight, especially when I have one, but it doesn't seem to matter what I throw at them, they call, and ALWAYS get the cards, EVERY TIME. For the past two weeks it's been like this. Do swings last this long? That many hands? Or is it just me? An entire bankroll at the lowest limits being eaten away like this should really be statistically impossible. Link to post Share on other sites
QED 4 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Learning to fold is the hardest part, especially as you don't get instant results like when you call. What levels and site are you playing? Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 yeah, what stakes are you playing? FR or 6max? Do you have tracking software? It'll help you take advantage of the many types of terrible players and it will help you identify and then fix leaks in your game Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 But I has an overpairzzz! how is I to layz it down to the nit who only raises sets? Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Also... i finally freaking took the time to color code my HUD stats... that took forever and a wednesday...Since my stats are mostly raise/fold stats I has a simple system for each situational... Green means gogogo with anything marginal, red means stop w/o huge value.Also, I am swearing off the call button. It's the lose money button. Link to post Share on other sites
QED 4 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Colour coding is fun, colour coded stats, colour coded notes. How much more fun can a young man have? Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Yeah I color code my notes. Green - Passive Fish. 20+/0-10Dark Blue - Lagtard. 25+/25+Purple - Laggy. 25+/20-24Red - Taggy. 18-22ish/18-20ishOrange - Nit. 15-/12-Numbers probably aren't all accurate, and I might be leaving some out.Color coding does wonders for table selection. Especially when you come across a table of 3 or more Greens. Jackpot! Link to post Share on other sites
QED 4 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I use something similar but a bit more simplified Green - Fish Cake, the first line of the note is all caps to indicate the type (SPEWTARD/STATION/PASSIVE etc)Red - Regs, this is kind of a holding tag till I know more about them. I put it on people playing 4+ tables with the amount they are playing. The more tables they are playing the more robotic they are likely to be. Yellow - Nits, try and wait for at least 300 hands on someone before I nit them.Light blue - This is all the short stackers.Purple - Don't use this much but it for people that are nuts about defending out of their blinds. I try and keep my VPIP and PFR stats colour coded in line with the yellow/red/green system I use for tagging players. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 For me red = slowroll that POS. There are no other tags Link to post Share on other sites
droberts 3 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 i only have a few note colorsOrange- reggreen- HNRBlue-fishpurple- bad reg Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 TBH i haven't made a note on another player since I started using tracking software...But the auto coloring on the individual stats is awesome... "Oh hey PT... I'm busy looking at 20 other tables... could you green his VPIP if it's retardedly high and red it if it's retardedly low for me? Thanks" Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 TBH i haven't made a note on another player since I started using tracking software...But the auto coloring on the individual stats is awesome... "Oh hey PT... I'm busy looking at 20 other tables... could you green his VPIP if it's retardedly high and red it if it's retardedly low for me? Thanks"I think the problem I had at 25nl was my lack of detailed notes. I mean, I had a ton of notes on guys that just said "faggot" Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 I think the problem I had at 25nl was my lack of detailed notes. I mean, I had a ton of notes on guys that just said "faggot"lol Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 I think the problem I had at 25nl was my lack of detailed notes. I mean, I had a ton of notes on guys that just said "faggot"tons of notes does not mean copy/pasting faggot 3598109813209582309 times under my snbut like seriously guys... do notes really matter? maybe it's bc I play with a lot of the same people on back to back days I feel I don't need them Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted July 17, 2010 Author Share Posted July 17, 2010 tons of notes does not mean copy/pasting faggot 3598109813209582309 times under my snbut like seriously guys... do notes really matter? maybe it's bc I play with a lot of the same people on back to back days I feel I don't need themyes. noting what hands a guy shows up with in 3b pots and 4b pots is > just 3b and 4b %'s Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 yes. noting what hands a guy shows up with in 3b pots and 4b pots is > just 3b and 4b %'sIn theory... sure... but in practice?It's simple enough to understand that the wider the range the less hands are played largely for value. Unless someone was doing something extremely stupid like playing the bottom 9% as opposed to the top 9% it's nothing worth noting. If you're putting in any kind of decent volume you're not going to have time to carefully ponder how the small differentials in range... be it more heavy towards small pairs or Axs... really affect your overall decision... really, even, if you're playing a single slow speed table and punt your whole timebank on one street of one handMaybe it's just that, to me, I see online poker as one big game of flash cards. Remember those times tables in grade school or just starting to learn a foreign language? Online poker is just one really long and complex session of flash cards... and if you do enough of them well you profits. So I'm simply not going to have time to read detailed notes, but I can use a statistic or two in order to sway my decision better Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 In theory... sure... but in practice?It's simple enough to understand that the wider the range the less hands are played largely for value. Unless someone was doing something extremely stupid like playing the bottom 9% as opposed to the top 9% it's nothing worth noting. If you're putting in any kind of decent volume you're not going to have time to carefully ponder how the small differentials in range... be it more heavy towards small pairs or Axs... really affect your overall decision... really, even, if you're playing a single slow speed table and punt your whole timebank on one street of one handMaybe it's just that, to me, I see online poker as one big game of flash cards. Remember those times tables in grade school or just starting to learn a foreign language? Online poker is just one really long and complex session of flash cards... and if you do enough of them well you profits. So I'm simply not going to have time to read detailed notes, but I can use a statistic or two in order to sway my decision betterYou can't be real. Link to post Share on other sites
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