Ninja Ace 1 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 If I flat I have to make a pair or raise with Ahigh on the flop...FYPThere's your leak. If you're going to flat wide you're going to have to pick flops where A high is likely good, or he is likely to fold to the board texture and raise. It gets countered by him stacking off light, and re-countered by you raising 100% of your value range.My idea of redline play is valuebetting / raising so thin that he *theoretically* should never show up with worse to your bottom end Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Sometimes you just got to hate moneyFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 5 playersButton: $162.40 SB: $50.00 BB: $52.50 UTG: $50.75 CO: $51.25 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with (5 players)UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.25, Button folds, SB calls $1, BB foldsFlop: ($3.00) (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2Turn: ($7.00) (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $5.50, SB calls $5.50River: ($18.00) (2 players)SB bets $11, Hero raises to $42.50, and is all in, SB foldsHero won $38(Rake: $2) Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 Sometimes you just got to hate moneyhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 Bellairedrew is the best! I can't wait to cuddle with him in vegas again next year Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Sometimes you just got to hate moneyFighter plays, at fulltiltpoker.net, come play for free. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Bellairedrew is the best! I can't wait to cuddle with him in vegas again next yearjealoussss Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 jealoussssyou'll be there I imagine Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 o baby Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I was closing up my tables when this hand happened. Converting hands till the cows come homeFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersUTG: $42.30 UTG+1: $68.50 CO: $93.25 (Hero)Button: $50.00 SB: $44.50 BB: $56.30 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with (6 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, Button folds, SB raises to $4.25, BB folds, Hero calls $3Flop: ($9.00) :D (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5Turn: ($19.00) (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB raises to $35.25, and is all in, Hero calls $25.25River: ($89.50) (2 players)Hero showed , and lost with two pair, Kings and JacksSB showed , and won ($86.50) with three of a kind, JacksSB won $86.50(Rake: $3)Was Still a winning session, just makes it harder to quit a table when a fish just got double stacked. Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Moooooooooooraaawwwr.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersUTG: $50.00 (Hero)UTG+1: $26.75 CO: $26.60 Button: $50.00 SB: $50.00 BB: $97.50 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with (6 players)UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1Flop: ($3.25) :D (3 players)Hero checks, CO bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60Turn: ($6.45) (3 players)Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero calls $4River: ($14.45) (3 players)Hero checks, CO bets $19.50, and is all in, Hero calls $19.50Hero showed , and won ($50.80) with a straight, Jack highCO showed , and lost with a pair of JacksHero won $50.80(Rake: $2.65)First hand at table, I wanted to fold river, If it wasn't for his bet sizing on the flop I might of. lulz Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 nice call!! Link to post Share on other sites
BellaireDrew 2 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Bellairedrew is the best! I can't wait to cuddle with him in vegas again next year<3jealoussssyou should be!! Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 oA pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersSB Hero: $29.27 BB pytzy1: $20.65 UTG egr777: $45.79 UTG+1 PKimbap: $36.37 CO ralpht1047: $22.28 Button 7GARGAMEL7: $25.77 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with (6 players)3 folds, 7GARGAMEL7 raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, pytzy1 calls $2.25, 7GARGAMEL7 foldsFlop: ($5.75) (2 players)Hero bets $2.75, pytzy1 calls $2.75Turn: ($11.25) (2 players)Hero bets $5.50, pytzy1 calls $5.50River: ($22.25) (2 players)Hero bets $18.52, and is all in, pytzy1 calls $9.90, and is all inHero showed , and won ($39.95) with a pair of Tenspytzy1 mucked Hero won $39.95(Rake: $2.10) Link to post Share on other sites
kepper 0 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Cows play poker with cow chipsHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 8 playersUTG: $25.00 UTG+1: $24.65 MP: $41.10 (Hero)HJ: $10.97 CO: $20.00 Button: $55.41 SB: $27.20 BB: $15.25 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with (8 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Button raises to $2.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10.25, Button calls $8.00Flop: ($20.85) (2 players)Hero bets $15.80, Button calls $15.80Turn: ($52.45) (2 players)Hero bets $15.05, Button calls $15.05River: ($82.55) (2 players)Hero showed , Button showed , Hero won $80.55 Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 nhWhy such a huuuuuuuuge 4bet? Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 \Watching the Rangers/Yanks and grinding donkaments... life tilt to follow I'm sure Link to post Share on other sites
kepper 0 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 nhWhy such a huuuuuuuuge 4bet?I wanted to make the pot bigger because we were pretty deep and I was oop. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 \Watching the Rangers/Yanks and grinding donkaments... life tilt to follow I'm sureExpert play in these donkaments.Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em t80/t160 - 9 playersHJ Jusked: t2,195 CO IBNUTZ: t4,975 Button corbu2908: t2,030 SB Huddleup89: t3,450 BB joshadkins7: t4,062 UTG Hero: t2,765 UTG+1 SteveB85: t21,976 MP savard22: t7,487 MP2 TXJUL: t10,850 Preflop: (t240) Hero is UTG with (9 players)Hero raises to t350, SteveB85 raises to t1,161, savard22 folds, TXJUL calls t1,161, 5 folds, Hero raises to t2,765, and is all in, SteveB85 calls t1,604, TXJUL calls t1,604Flop: (t8,535) (3 players)SteveB85 checks, TXJUL checksTurn: (t8,535) (3 players)SteveB85 checks, TXJUL checksRiver: (t8,535) (3 players)SteveB85 checks, TXJUL checksHero showed , and lost with a pair of QueensSteveB85 showed , and won (8,535) with a pair of AcesTXJUL mucked SteveB85 won t8,535I wanted to make the pot bigger because we were pretty deep and I was oop.Yeah, even 200 bbs deep you can get the money in easily in a 4b pot, but I understand your point. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 \Watching the Rangers/Yanks and grinding donkaments... life tilt to follow I'm sureme too, minus the life tilt of coursegl gl Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Here is an interesting spot for you guys. I am 10 hands into the table with this fish when this hand happensYour converted hand, now with more cowbell.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersUTG: $81.55 UTG+1: $113.80 CO: $90.35 Button: $102.80 SB: $20.25 BB: $57.80 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with (6 players)3 folds, Button raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $7, Button calls $5.25, SB calls $5.25Flop: ($21.00) (3 players)SB bets $13.25, and is all in, Hero raises to $50.80, and is all in, Button foldsTurn: ($47.50) (2 players)River: ($47.50) (2 players)SB showed , and lost with two pair, Kings and QueensHero showed , and won ($45.15) with a straight, Ace highHero won $45.15(Rake: $2.35)Nothing unusual. Next hand this happens Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersBB: $81.55 UTG: $113.80 UTG+1: $90.35 CO: $95.80 Button: $13.00 SB: $82.70 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with (6 players)3 folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, BB folds, Button raises to $13, and is all in, Hero foldsButton won $5.50(Rake: $0) Next hand I fold 73o , Next hand Dont have a cow, heres your converted handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersButton: $80.80 SB: $113.30 BB: $90.35 UTG: $94.05 UTG+1: $18.30 CO: $80.20 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 3 folds, UTG+1 raises to $18.30, and is all in, Hero foldsUTG+1 won $5.25(Rake: $0)I was extremely temped to call here but didn't pull the trigger. More to follow next post. Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Seeing a pattern and Thinking he might be on tilt, The very next hand. Milked from the teat of a feral cowFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersCO: $80.80 Button: $113.05 SB: $89.85 BB: $94.05 UTG: $21.30 UTG+1: $77.95 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, BB checksFlop: ($1.75) (3 players)BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checksTurn: ($1.75) (3 players)BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checksRiver: ($1.75) (3 players)BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checksBB showed , and won ($1.70) with a pair of QueensUTG mucked Hero mucked BB won $1.70(Rake: $0.05)So he has l/rr and I have folded twice, he has saw me limp behind. It leads me to this spot. Cows play poker with cow chipsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersSB: $80.30 BB: $113.05 UTG: $95.20 UTG+1: $95.00 CO: $17.80 Button: $75.20 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with (6 players)2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, CO raises to $5, If he had l/shoved I would of snapped called thinking he is tilted, however he has made it small. Is he playing the player and stack size? 4 hands ago he has seen me adjust to his limping by just calling, however it is only 9 hands since I have stacked him and it is 3/3 limp/re-raise opportunities since.Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 unrelated Kind of funny hand. I think The villain clicking the show hand button while mucking was what made me laugh. Like I sucked out or somethingCows play poker with cow chipsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 5 playersBB: $100.80 UTG: $97.30 CO: $83.45 Button: $95.45 SB: $93.90 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with (5 players)2 folds, Button raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.50, BB foldsFlop: ($4.00) (2 players)Hero checks, Button checksTurn: ($4.00) (2 players)Hero bets $2, Button calls $2River: ($8.00) (2 players)Hero bets $3.50, Button calls $3.50Button showed , and lost with three of a kind, KingsHero showed , and won ($14.25) with a full house, Kings full of TwosHero won $14.25(Rake: $0.75) Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Limp/Minraise me thinks is going to be much stronger than limp/shove.Maybe the more math efficient players here can find a reason to do anything other than fold. Personally, I fold though. Link to post Share on other sites
kepper 0 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 So he has l/rr and I have folded twice, he has saw me limp behind. It leads me to this spot. Cows play poker with cow chipsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersSB: $80.30 BB: $113.05 UTG: $95.20 UTG+1: $95.00 CO: $17.80 Button: $75.20 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with (6 players)2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, CO raises to $5, If he had l/shoved I would of snapped called thinking he is tilted, however he has made it small. Is he playing the player and stack size? 4 hands ago he has seen me adjust to his limping by just calling, however it is only 9 hands since I have stacked him and it is 3/3 limp/re-raise opportunities since.Thoughts?Spite call Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Everything about the full tilt dealy is in here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/inter...-cheats-898155/Also, I see all sorts of poker services in your links, but 0 SMS services. You have to understand there is a world away from internet poker, and I'm seeing 3 trends right now that point to this being a great market to jump into1) Live poker is jumping up all around the US. Lots more players are getting interested.2) Premium SMS isn't fully saturated but ready to explode.3) Most "cutting edge" developers are doing what they always do, and that's jump on the bandwagon and hope to make tail end bucks. They're all stuck making Facebook, iPhone, and Blackberry specific apps at the momentMarketing towards online nerds would fail very very hard. However, most brick and mortar players are also the type who do not frequent the internet. The mass of degen noobies you are targeting are also unlikely to a) have smart phones and b) if they do, use them to their full potentialOh, and one more pro about it. Overhead is effectively nil, for me right now it's literally zero, and it only becomes an issue once you need increased bandwidth... but you'll only need that when you have a large paying userbase.My time and effort right now has been launching a text service geared towards AA and NA members. It's up and running in beta right now. Service functions fine. Don't have the 5 grand for a short code number, but the short code only really helps with the initial call as most people save numbers to their phone. However, this project is so easily expandable to other realms I'm very willing to work with others and provide them an easy way to get such apps up and running Link to post Share on other sites
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