Notre Dame Seniors Say No To Graduation

[brvheart 1,752]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KUBdrrbF6o"Because of President Obama's appearance and speech at Notre Dame this Sunday, some seniors will not attend their own graduation ceremony and instead join a University prayer service on the grounds at Notre Dame. No indication yet as to how many seniors will forgo the graduation ceremony.The student group behind this effort, ND Response, has made this wild hollywood style video showcasing their displeasure with Notre Dame and the President. I must say the production value is extremely high and I feel like I'm watching a trailer for some sort of hollywood blockbuster movie. Watch it here.Read below as to what will be taking place this Sunday at Notre Dame:The meditation, which will be led by Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, is part of a two-day rally that has been officially sanctioned by the university.The evening of May 16, bishop of the Fort Wayne- South Bend diocese, Rev. John D'Arcy, will lead a candlelight prayer vigil for graduating seniors and their families to pray for an end to abortion and embryo research.On May 17, Commencement Day, in addition to the meditation ceremony, a large rally will be held on the South Quad of the university, the campus' main quad, between 11 a.m. and 4 p.m. Speakers at the rally will include Elizabeth Naquin Border, Notre Dame graduate and former chairman of the board for the Women's Care Centers in South Bend; Rev. Joseph Raphael, Notre Dame graduate and principal of St. Augustine's High School in New Orleans; William Solomon, director of the university's Center for Ethics and Culture; and Chris Godfrey, a Notre Dame law school graduate and former offensive guard for the Super Bowl XXI champion New York Giants.You know, the Obama faith team worked really hard during the campaign to court Catholic voters and it paid off because Obama won the Catholic vote. It made a difference in swing states like Pennsylvania and others. All along the Obama team knew they had a challenge on the abortion issue but was able to break through because of how candidate Obama lined up with Catholics on other issues like torture, healthcare, climate change, human rights, etc.Since becoming President, Mr. Obama has made policy that has left himself open to criticism by pro-life Catholics (conscience clause, mexico city, embryonic stem cell research). When the President faces re-election in 2012, the faith team will have an even tougher challenge because with evidence in hand, pro-life Catholics will now mount a full scale offensive against the President. Moderate Catholic groups are armed for battle too. Will this be a Catholic armageddon of sorts?By the way, just because some students at Notre Dame take issue with what will happen Sunday, let me provide a little balance here. Read more on that here. 23 student groups support the move by Notre Dame. More on that here and did you know that the Notre Dame valedictorian is an Obama supporter? Read that here."

[SuitedAces21 2,722]

you should go join them, brv. i'm sure they could use a dairy queen owner on their side.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

Guarantee that most of them regret not going to their graduation and seeing the president in 5-10 years or so. But if they want to make some statement now, that's of course in their right.No way I'd skip my graduation even if it was George Bush and Kaiser Wilhelm were doing a joint ceremony (actually, especially not, since that would be interesting in many ways).

[Speed Limit 0]

Guarantee that most of them regret not going to their graduation and seeing the president in 5-10 years or so. But if they want to make some statement now, that's of course in their right.No way I'd skip my graduation even if it was George Bush and Kaiser Wilhelm were doing a joint ceremony (actually, especially not, since that would be interesting in many ways).

As long as you don't head a movement to take away everyone's guns so Jesse James, the Sundance Kid, and Wilhelm zombies can destroy us.(hmm, probably a bit too obscure of a joke, but it was the first thing I thought of.)

[JubilantLankyLad 1,957]

Guarantee that most of them regret not going to their graduation and seeing the president in 5-10 years or so. But if they want to make some statement now, that's of course in their right.No way I'd skip my graduation even if it was George Bush and Kaiser Wilhelm were doing a joint ceremony (actually, especially not, since that would be interesting in many ways).

no kidding, watching those two get high would be simply awesome. "Hey Kaiser man, this is (hehehe) some good stuff you got here (hehe)." "Thank you, George. I am using the money raised by selling it to pay for the blank cheque I issued for the crushing of the Serbs.""Serbs, huh? Those guys have been making me all antsy too, hehe. Make my legs all shaky, see? Worse than the jibbly wibblies. Pass that shit, son!"Meanwhile the class of 2009 stares, mouths agape.

[Balloon guy 158]

I bet it's because he is black

[Fleur 0]

I bet it's because he is black

No, it's because he speaks English. Ever tried speaking English to a French person? They understand you perfectly well, but they just refuse to speak English. Arrogant lot, they are.

[Mercury69 3]

Bunch of dickheads, if you ask me.I'd happily perform an abortion right in front of them and then ask them about the altar boy abuse and rampant anti-Semitism in the Ctholic Church.

[brvheart 1,752]

Guarantee that most of them regret not going to their graduation and seeing the president in 5-10 years or so. But if they want to make some statement now, that's of course in their right.No way I'd skip my graduation even if it was George Bush and Kaiser Wilhelm were doing a joint ceremony (actually, especially not, since that would be interesting in many ways).

Yeah, I totally agree with this. I think they will regret it. I went to a very small Obama rally here in Iowa, where I got to meet him and I'm still very happy that I went. I'm positive that we can all agree on one thing though... their stand against murdering babies is heroic. What?

[Piddle Duck 0]

Their loss. Like Obama is the first non-brainwashed catholic to ever speak there.

[chrozzo 19]

Guarantee that most of them regret not going to their graduation and seeing the president in 5-10 years or so. But if they want to make some statement now, that's of course in their right.No way I'd skip my graduation even if it was George Bush and Kaiser Wilhelm were doing a joint ceremony (actually, especially not, since that would be interesting in many ways).

i think it depends on the person and their view of the current presidenti mean, i went to a Bush rally back in 04 and it was exciting...but if Obama knocked on my door to say hi i wouldnt even open it

[timwakefield 68]

Meh. The chick who's all "Wouldn't it be something if everybody boycotted the speech? Wouldn't that show how strongly we value life?" Yeah lady, that would be something. What will it be when it's only a very small percentage of the graduating class, and there are equally vocal people on the other side of the argument?

[Sal Paradise 57]

chicks that refuse to have abortions? nooooooo thank you.

[suicideking 0]

As long as you don't head a movement to take away everyone's guns so Jesse James, the Sundance Kid, and Wilhelm zombies can destroy us.(hmm, probably a bit too obscure of a joke, but it was the first thing I thought of.)

The Siiiiiiimpsooooons.

[speedz99 145]

Madeleine Albright spoke at my graduation. It was awesome...I think. I don't really remember, I was drunk at the time.-You remember Genesis? Book two... verse three: And he breatheth into the nostrils of Adam on the first day and it was good...

[loogie 115]

Notre Dame students are out of date dorks. Shoe-throwing is the chic way to protest the President now.

[Tactical Bear 3]

Yeah, I totally agree with this. I think they will regret it. I went to a very small Obama rally here in Iowa, where I got to meet him and I'm still very happy that I went. I'm positive that we can all agree on one thing though... their stand against murdering babies is heroic. What?

Well, let's be honest. They're standing against (a) abortion and (b) Parkinson's research and shit. I can respect the former (though I disagree wholeheartedly, and think the Republicans have done a pretty horrible thing exploiting the religious right so they can take a stand on privacy), but the latter is still just insane to me. Congratulations, random ND graduate; I hope you get MS.

[Zealous Donkey 0]

Well, let's be honest. They're standing against (a) abortion and (B) Parkinson's research and shit. I can respect the former (though I disagree wholeheartedly, and think the Republicans have done a pretty horrible thing exploiting the religious right so they can take a stand on privacy), but the latter is still just insane to me. Congratulations, random ND graduate; I hope you get MS.

Try an educate yourself a little more before you make ignorant statements. Catholics oppose creating life to destroy it, they see that possibly leading down a dangerous path. They aren't against parkinson's research or MS research, in fact progress is being made with other than embryonic stem cells. This has actually been the case for a while. Ask yourself why then democrats continue to make this a front and center issue. Could they possibly have a hidden agenda?

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

I'm more worried that a bunch of people graduating with a degree from a higher learning institution actually believe religion. Still amazes me to this day. Do these same people believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny? Oh well, I'm sure they'll be proud of themselves when there are 14 empty seats at graduation and their parents tossed a 1/4 mil down the drain so they can get their diploma mailed to them, all in the name of JESUSYou want to make a statement? Balls up, go to the graduation and heckle him.

[Zealous Donkey 0]

I'm more worried that a bunch of people graduating with a degree from a higher learning institution actually believe religion. Still amazes me to this day. Do these same people believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny? Oh well, I'm sure they'll be proud of themselves when there are 14 empty seats at graduation and their parents tossed a 1/4 mil down the drain so they can get their diploma mailed to them, all in the name of JESUSYou want to make a statement? Balls up, go to the graduation and heckle him.

Yes, they are a terribe lot, all that building hospitals and feeding the hungry stuff is really silly.

[speedz99 145]

Well, let's be honest. They're standing against (a) abortion and (B) Parkinson's research and shit.

That was a quote from It's Always Sunny, but I appreciate your serious response.

Try an educate yourself a little more before you make ignorant statements. Catholics oppose creating life to destroy it, they see that possibly leading down a dangerous path. They aren't against parkinson's research or MS research, in fact progress is being made with other than embryonic stem cells. This has actually been the case for a while. Ask yourself why then democrats continue to make this a front and center issue. Could they possibly have a hidden agenda?

:giggle:This should get pretty funny.

[Tactical Bear 3]

Try an educate yourself a little more before you make ignorant statements. Catholics oppose creating life to destroy it, they see that possibly leading down a dangerous path. They aren't against parkinson's research or MS research, in fact progress is being made with other than embryonic stem cells. This has actually been the case for a while. Ask yourself why then democrats continue to make this a front and center issue. Could they possibly have a hidden agenda?

I probably shouldn't have just unloaded like that. This thread isn't about abortion/embryonic stem cell research; it's about... well, it's about whatever Brvheart said it was about. Something about Catholics protesting Obama.Embryonic stem-cell research is a hot button issue because it's a proxy for the abortion debate. Democrats have to support it, lest they pain themselves in a corner on the abortion issue, and Republicans have to oppose it for the same reasons. I think that's an incredible shame, and I wish we could have a legitimate, national discussion on the issue without worrying about whether stem-cells are an important battle in a much larger war, but I'm not naive enough to think that's ever going to be a possibility. I am, however, curious as to what the "hidden agenda" you're referring to is. Do you mean, like I admitted above, that Democrats can't give an inch on stem-cells because it's ground they'd lose on abortion? Or something else, like Bill Clinton switches out the caviar with a kind of human-embryo-slurry? Because: okay, that's a weird thing for you to insinuate, man. Cool out.

[Zealous Donkey 0]

I probably shouldn't have just unloaded like that. This thread isn't about abortion/embryonic stem cell research; it's about... well, it's about whatever Brvheart said it was about. Something about Catholics protesting Obama.Embryonic stem-cell research is a hot button issue because it's a proxy for the abortion debate. Democrats have to support it, lest they pain themselves in a corner on the abortion issue, and Republicans have to oppose it for the same reasons. I think that's an incredible shame, and I wish we could have a legitimate, national discussion on the issue without worrying about whether stem-cells are an important battle in a much larger war, but I'm not naive enough to think that's ever going to be a possibility. I am, however, curious as to what the "hidden agenda" you're referring to is. Do you mean, like I admitted above, that Democrats can't give an inch on stem-cells because it's ground they'd lose on abortion? Or something else, like Bill Clinton switches out the caviar with a kind of human-embryo-slurry? Because: okay, that's a weird thing for you to insinuate, man. Cool out.

Thanks for your response, you aren't so ignorant after all. Sorry Man. No, I think you have the hidden agenda's (not so hidden after all I guess) pretty much nailed. It is about abortion/right to life issues. I also agree with you that it is a shame that politics gets in the way of legitimate discussion but such is the world we live in. you may find the following link interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDFJOzu9SyM

[chrozzo 19]

I probably shouldn't have just unloaded like that. This thread isn't about abortion/embryonic stem cell research; it's about... well, it's about whatever Brvheart said it was about. Something about Catholics protesting Obama.Embryonic stem-cell research is a hot button issue because it's a proxy for the abortion debate. Democrats have to support it, lest they pain themselves in a corner on the abortion issue, and Republicans have to oppose it for the same reasons. I think that's an incredible shame, and I wish we could have a legitimate, national discussion on the issue without worrying about whether stem-cells are an important battle in a much larger war, but I'm not naive enough to think that's ever going to be a possibility. I am, however, curious as to what the "hidden agenda" you're referring to is. Do you mean, like I admitted above, that Democrats can't give an inch on stem-cells because it's ground they'd lose on abortion? Or something else, like Bill Clinton switches out the caviar with a kind of human-embryo-slurry? Because: okay, that's a weird thing for you to insinuate, man. Cool out.

Thanks for your response, you aren't so ignorant after all. Sorry Man. No, I think you have the hidden agenda's (not so hidden after all I guess) pretty much nailed. It is about abortion/right to life issues. I also agree with you that it is a shame that politics gets in the way of legitimate discussion but such is the world we live in. you may find the following link interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDFJOzu9SyM

BUT!!!!What about the curious case of Benjamin Button?

[Fleur 0]

Thanks for your response, you aren't so ignorant after all. Sorry Man. No, I think you have the hidden agenda's (not so hidden after all I guess) pretty much nailed. It is about abortion/right to life issues. I also agree with you that it is a shame that politics gets in the way of legitimate discussion but such is the world we live in. you may find the following link interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDFJOzu9SyM

There is no reason why we should not do stemcell research. NONE. And can you tell me where God ever said in the Bible that he is opposed to stemcell research? I must have missed that part.