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That was more a limbo reference but nevertheless.. I'm really curious about this subject. I apologize if it's been discussed before but with the WSOP around the corner and really just wanting to know more about it...How much do you tip?Not so much in low cash games, I've heard the $1 per every $100 in pot comments before but what about in big tournament poker. For instance.. Jamie Gold walks away with 12 mill last year, how much is he REALLY expected to tip out? Anyone know how much he actually did?And what about high stakes poker... Not sure what the average pot is.. lets say 50k... Is 500 really being thrown out to the dealer every pot? I know these guys have a lot of money but some of them have ALL of it on the table and/or over time, 500 per pot (plus rake) is a lot to keep taking out of play. I could tell a dealer I'm going to tip him/them out at the end and hell it's almost worth not tipping them per hand because it's pretty much common knowledge that they start dealing faster if people aren't tipping as much to make up for tipless hands.Anyway... some feedback would really be appreciated.Guzz

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I believe on HSP they have a stack of $5 chips just for tipping. I would become a poker dealer for $500 a pot. No idea on big tournaments. Biggest tourney I've ever won live was for around $2K. Gave the dealers $50.

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Ive heard 4-5% is a standard tournament tip on your winnings. Of course on a real big win less would be more appropriate considring they ussually take a % of the top of the prizepool for tournament staff.

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The dealers on HSP are getting 5-20bux a hand. Cocktail waitresses between 5 and 50 per drink. Ive dealt games from 1-2 nl to 100-200nl....the tokes are usually about the same for dealers. However, high limit players usually tip the dealers pretty bad and tip the cocktail waitresses absurd amounts of money. As far as winning the main event....yes, they do take a percentage out for STAFF, not all goes to dealers. If I won 12 million Id leave 50k or so extra for all the dealers. Moneymaker told me he left 25k and I heard Raymer left 25k as well.

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hell it's almost worth not tipping them per hand because it's pretty much common knowledge that they start dealing faster if people aren't tipping as much to make up for tipless hands.
Really? i ussually deal MUCH slower if i have a table full of nontippers. why should I work harder for less money? i'm very much of the idea that you get what you pay for. as for what you should tip, think of it this way, a server (waiter/ress) brings you food and you tip them 5-15% for thier service. Yes, they run thier tails off to make sure everything is perfect for your meal. At the end of the day though you are tipping them for food you are PAYING for. ME as a poker dealer is making you money by keeping the game going, and though it's "luck", giving you the winning hand.Every time i read posts like these i get rather upset. I've been a server before doing business lunches. "Professionals", aka. the people there for a business lunch, are on average the best tippers. So why is it that the "professional" cardplayers have such a quandry over if/how much they should tip? If you are there to make money, treat the game like a business and tip for service, if you are there to have fun the money shouldn't matter and tip anyway.
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Is this an American thing? In Australia tipping is not really done or expected at restaurants, though I do not have much experience with casinos. I'm already paying for the food, or to play poker by paying rake, so why the hell should I pay out anymore money? It doesn't make any sense to me, the only time I got tipped working at a bottleshop was when a gay guy leaned over and put 5c in my shirt pocket. Needless to say I was very appreciative. Anyone seen Reservoir Dogs? Steve Buscemi knows the score.

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Is this an American thing? Anyone seen Reservoir Dogs? Steve Buscemi knows the score.
Yes, it's an american thing. It was decided long ago that instead of paying more for certains product by adding the cost of increased payroll to the price, we would embrace a system that was based more on performance. There are pluses and minuses, but we can can voice our opinion on services with extra money or less. Most people in service know that there's a better chance that a foreigner won't tip, but it's not your only customer, and it should all average out. Getting a 10 top of southern baptists is a bad beat, but if you're good, you'll still get the money in the long haul. Just remember that you would be paying more for that food, or an extra dollar in rake, or actually pay for that drink in the casino if there weren't people willing to work for tips. For every Steve Buscemi character there's 99 others who pick up the slack. His POV on tipping was part of his overall character. He's a pretty miserable fuck overall. If you find yourself relating to his character, then you have bigger issues. He said if she didn't like being paid shit, then she should get another job, while he finds himself in a robbing, murdering rampage. If you're miserable and find yourself feeling superior to a truck stop waitress because you've figured out a way to justify to yourself not tipping her for making a poor career decision, more power to you. You need the 2 bucks more than she does. It's cheaper than the therapy that you actually need.Edit: Time flies. It's already been 3 months since the last tip debate?
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Austrailians and most europeans always make me wonder. They stiff every dealer in the house....yet give 5$ to the cocktail waitress for every damn drink they get.
I've also noticed this, I don't get it. Where do you work again man?
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Really? i ussually deal MUCH slower if i have a table full of nontippers. why should I work harder for less money? i'm very much of the idea that you get what you pay for.
So you get the same zero sum tips from the nontippers, and less from the people who actually do tip? I guess I'm confused as to how that helps. I would probably end up getting in trouble dealing. Tip, thank you sir, tap the box, drop the tip. No tip, slap the table with the palm of my hand, clear them(clap, show top, and bottom), move on. If it's brought to my attention that someone is constantly stiffing the dealer, I'll do the dirty work. "Don't forget the dealer!,", and a couple of people at the table laughing at the fact they're cheap and should stick to the drive-thru usually does the trick. Non-tippers aren't usually missed one way or the other. If it's at a poker table, they're nittier, and bring nothing to the game but an extra body. If they complain they'll get some lip service from the pitboss, but it's not like they're getting RFB comps for the action they're giving. At a restaurant they're usually by themselves(coincidence?), and don't spend much anyway. They'll come in for a while until everyone gets tired of waiting on them, they pick up on the vibe, say to themselves "That's why I don't tip, people treat me like crap.", move on to the place next door, and start the cycle over.
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Yes, it's an american thing. It was decided long ago that instead of paying more for certains product by adding the cost of increased payroll to the price, we would embrace a system that was based more on performance. There are pluses and minuses, but we can can voice our opinion on services with extra money or less. Most people in service know that there's a better chance that a foreigner won't tip, but it's not your only customer, and it should all average out. Getting a 10 top of southern baptists is a bad beat, but if you're good, you'll still get the money in the long haul. Just remember that you would be paying more for that food, or an extra dollar in rake, or actually pay for that drink in the casino if there weren't people willing to work for tips. For every Steve Buscemi character there's 99 others who pick up the slack. His POV on tipping was part of his overall character. He's a pretty miserable fuck overall. If you find yourself relating to his character, then you have bigger issues. He said if she didn't like being paid shit, then she should get another job, while he finds himself in a robbing, murdering rampage. If you're miserable and find yourself feeling superior to a truck stop waitress because you've figured out a way to justify to yourself not tipping her for making a poor career decision, more power to you. You need the 2 bucks more than she does. It's cheaper than the therapy that you actually need.Edit: Time flies. It's already been 3 months since the last tip debate?
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The man with the world's tiniest hands playing the world's tiniest violin? What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?I wasn't crying, I was just explaining why we do what we do the way we do it here. I apologize for trying to enlighten you. You said it didn't make any sense to you. I thought that meant you were curious. After you get out of your teens and realize you don't really know as much as you thought you did you'll appreciate it when people put forth effort to help you instead of just looking for a fight. Good to know it only takes a nickel to make a young gay boy wet himself when I do eventually visit Australia. Hopefully it has the same effect on your women.
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The man with the world's tiniest hands playing the world's tiniest violin? What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?I wasn't crying, I was just explaining why we do what we do the way we do it here. I apologize for trying to enlighten you. You said it didn't make any sense to you. I thought that meant you were curious. After you get out of your teens and realize you don't really know as much as you thought you did you'll appreciate it when people put forth effort to help you instead of just looking for a fight. Good to know it only takes a nickel to make a young gay boy wet himself when I do eventually visit Australia. Hopefully it has the same effect on your women.
Jesus, that was quite a barrage. I was not picking a fight, I was just joking around being a smartass and I apologise if you thought I did not appreciate your response or that I was attacking you. I just started being interested in poker, and I have no trouble saying that I know nothing, I am a donkey and thats why I am here.I think I need to clarify that I am as straight as a ruler, and a 20year-old manly man :club:
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In Australia dealers are not allowed to accept tips.In Melbourne at Crown, on a $1-$2NL table we pay $5 per hour, plus the rake is 10% of every pot up to $6.I think Dealers earn an hourly rate of between $20 and $25 per hour.Apparantly in Sydney playes have to Pay $1 per hand to play plus they take a rake from heach hand delt!!!!!! How much in a typical Vegas casino?

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Austrailians and most europeans always make me wonder. They stiff every dealer in the house....yet give 5$ to the cocktail waitress for every damn drink they get.
In the UK it is illegal to tip dealers in Casinos - this is probably why Brits get the reputation of bad tippers in casinos. Not sure what dealers get in the UK but is in excess of minimum wage (circa $9 - 10 / hour in UK). When I visited Vegas I always tried to tip the dealers but probably forgot once or twice, not deliberately, just helped to cement the reputation I guess.Erimus
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In Vegas, the absolute best tip you can give is a $20 bill to the desk clerk before they check you in.Most hotel employees make crap. Everyone tips dealers and waitresses, but no one tips desk clerks. Those guys have a huge impact on your trip as they assign the room you get.

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In Australia dealers are not allowed to accept tips.In Melbourne at Crown, on a $1-$2NL table we pay $5 per hour, plus the rake is 10% of every pot up to $6.I think Dealers earn an hourly rate of between $20 and $25 per hour.Apparantly in Sydney playes have to Pay $1 per hand to play plus they take a rake from heach hand delt!!!!!! How much in a typical Vegas casino?
Wait as a player you're paying $5/hr time PLUS a $6 rake? That's insane. Phil Ivey would be -EV on that table.Typical US rake on 1/2 NL is 10% $4 max no time charge. Though I suppose if you tip the dealer $2 (not uncommon for mid sized pots) you get pretty much that $6 rake.
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That was more a limbo reference but nevertheless.. I'm really curious about this subject. I apologize if it's been discussed before but with the WSOP around the corner and really just wanting to know more about it...How much do you tip?Not so much in low cash games, I've heard the $1 per every $100 in pot comments before but what about in big tournament poker. For instance.. Jamie Gold walks away with 12 mill last year, how much is he REALLY expected to tip out? Anyone know how much he actually did?And what about high stakes poker... Not sure what the average pot is.. lets say 50k... Is 500 really being thrown out to the dealer every pot? I know these guys have a lot of money but some of them have ALL of it on the table and/or over time, 500 per pot (plus rake) is a lot to keep taking out of play. I could tell a dealer I'm going to tip him/them out at the end and hell it's almost worth not tipping them per hand because it's pretty much common knowledge that they start dealing faster if people aren't tipping as much to make up for tipless hands.Anyway... some feedback would really be appreciated.Guzz
Gee. No one's ever brought up the subject of tipping before.
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So you get the same zero sum tips from the nontippers, and less from the people who actually do tip? I guess I'm confused as to how that helps. I would probably end up getting in trouble dealing. Tip, thank you sir, tap the box, drop the tip. No tip, slap the table with the palm of my hand, clear them(clap, show top, and bottom), move on. If it's brought to my attention that someone is constantly stiffing the dealer, I'll do the dirty work. "Don't forget the dealer!,", and a couple of people at the table laughing at the fact they're cheap and should stick to the drive-thru usually does the trick. Non-tippers aren't usually missed one way or the other. If it's at a poker table, they're nittier, and bring nothing to the game but an extra body. If they complain they'll get some lip service from the pitboss, but it's not like they're getting RFB comps for the action they're giving. At a restaurant they're usually by themselves(coincidence?), and don't spend much anyway. They'll come in for a while until everyone gets tired of waiting on them, they pick up on the vibe, say to themselves "That's why I don't tip, people treat me like crap.", move on to the place next door, and start the cycle over.
notice i had said a table FULL of nontippers. it's not like if i get stiffed on one hand i do that. it's ussually a progressive thing. i've been at a table full of some of the best tippers in the casino and gotten a stiff here and there. it happens, people get distracted. when i'm busting my hump for a bunch of cheap people and NO ONE throws me anything, then i'm less likely to be willing to go the extra mile for them.In other countries casino's it might not be acceptable to tip the dealers, i can understand that, but it was also pointed out that the dealers are paid quite a bit more than 6.15 an hour. Give me 30 and hour and i'd be fine with no tips as well.
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Really? i ussually deal MUCH slower if i have a table full of nontippers. why should I work harder for less money? i'm very much of the idea that you get what you pay for.as for what you should tip, think of it this way, a server (waiter/ress) brings you food and you tip them 5-15% for thier service. Yes, they run thier tails off to make sure everything is perfect for your meal. At the end of the day though you are tipping them for food you are PAYING for. ME as a poker dealer is making you money by keeping the game going, and though it's "luck", giving you the winning hand.Every time i read posts like these i get rather upset. I've been a server before doing business lunches. "Professionals", aka. the people there for a business lunch, are on average the best tippers. So why is it that the "professional" cardplayers have such a quandry over if/how much they should tip? If you are there to make money, treat the game like a business and tip for service, if you are there to have fun the money shouldn't matter and tip anyway.
As a "former server" you should know then that servers/bartenders are taxed on the actual sale they are making whereas a "dealer" is not making a sale. Sure, you might have to claim your tips but at the end of the day you still get a paycheck. Most of the bartenders/servers that work never see a paycheck as they come back as "non-negotiable". In theory, if you tip a server less then 8% they are actually taking money out of their pocket to wait on you whereas if you don't tip a dealer they are still getting their minimum wage or whatever the going rate is. The only reason you should get upset is for dealing slower when things aren't going your way, you you choose to be lazy instead of correcting someone or a table and educating them on how the industry works. You just pout in your little spinny chair and wonder why you aren't making as much money as the dealer at the table next to you.Guzz-I hope this post upsets you too
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Totally agree on tipping the lobby check in staff. I've received many room upgrades doing this. Look for a sweet girl or lady and BAM! slip 'em a 'fity and all is right with the world.....most of the time.In the poker room, if the dealers get to keep all of there own tips I always throw them a $1 chip,minimum, as long as the pot has at least $10 in it. Karma baby! :club:

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I was just wondering if the tipping applies the same in a MTT as in cash game...I kinda feel like a cheap *** after this thread, cuz I never tipped the dealer in the tourney. When I did take second I had seen so many dealers that I'm not quite sure who to tip? I'm assuming this is mostly cash game chatter, which i've never played live.

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That was more a limbo reference but nevertheless.. I'm really curious about this subject. I apologize if it's been discussed before but with the WSOP around the corner and really just wanting to know more about it...How much do you tip?Not so much in low cash games, I've heard the $1 per every $100 in pot comments before but what about in big tournament poker. For instance.. Jamie Gold walks away with 12 mill last year, how much is he REALLY expected to tip out? Anyone know how much he actually did?And what about high stakes poker... Not sure what the average pot is.. lets say 50k... Is 500 really being thrown out to the dealer every pot? I know these guys have a lot of money but some of them have ALL of it on the table and/or over time, 500 per pot (plus rake) is a lot to keep taking out of play. I could tell a dealer I'm going to tip him/them out at the end and hell it's almost worth not tipping them per hand because it's pretty much common knowledge that they start dealing faster if people aren't tipping as much to make up for tipless hands.Anyway... some feedback would really be appreciated.Guzz
I don't really care about this topic, I just think it's funny that you're member No. 21 and 2 of your 3 all time posts happened today. Where have you been hiding all this time?
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