Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Btw, Pens fans are idiots too. A few years ago, Subban cut Staal's foot with his blade and the idiots that are a part of my team's fanbase loudly proclaimed that Subban did it on purpose. They were also wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I mean like, if this is Tyler Kennedy on Andre Benoit, are we having this conversation? are you being ignorant on purpose? I know your trying to make a point, but its fckin Matt Cooke. Reputation matters, even if the last 2yrs hes been Mother Theresa. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I didnt watch the play, but your saying "4 swings at head" doesnt happen often during a game? I guess were all gonna be watching guys go into the corners now, and see how high someone raises their leg, if at all. That was kinda my point about how malicious Cooke's play was, IMO. Doesn't happen every play Arp, but just guys going into the boards... I mean, it's a nothing play, bet you don't notice it if you don't look for it. Guys are trying to gain leverage, put weight on their strong side, etc. Happens all the time. To be honest, I'm surprised more guys don't get cut like this, or any other way by the razor blades out there. They were talking about it on the Marek vs Wyshynski podcast just a few days ago, as their Q of the Day was 'what are you surprised about that doesn't happen more in hockey?' or whatever along those lines. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 are you being ignorant on purpose? I know your trying to make a point, but its fckin Matt Cooke. Reputation matters, even if the last 2yrs hes been Mother Theresa. Hardly ignorant. Matt Cooke doesn't have a history of using his skates as weapons. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Did he get cut through the sock? If so, why aren't all players wearing those special socks? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Must have been, was just above the back of the skate.. kinda went in between the skate and the ankle. Some guys tuck the back of their skates into their socks and tape it... wonder if that would have made a difference, or if players do that with safety in mind, or if it's just a comfort thing. I do that, but have no idea why. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Hardly ignorant. Matt Cooke doesn't have a history of using his skates as weapons. Your point of if this wasn't Cooke, we wouldn't be talking about, makes little sense to me. Its talked about precisely because its Matt Cooke, because its not a play that can be accepted as 100% accidental. Can you honestly say, with 100% certainty, that he wasn't aware his skate/leg was in that area? There is a difference between he tried to cut the player, and he tried to raise his leg and push Karllson's leg with his skate. Personally, Im 80% certain Cooke didnt mean to do anything. But I also think your being a little naive in assuming no way, no how did Cooke mean any malice at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I'm 99.999997% certain he didn't mean any malice to Karlsson's achilles. I'm sure he was trying to hit him into the boards though, that's probably some sort of malice. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 And I don't get how you don't get what I'm getting at. Get it? (what?) I'm just saying, if a freak accident like this occurs with anyone else, it's not blown out of proportion like this, and people aren't racing to vilify anyone, IMO. I mean, I get your point of it being Cooke, so we should question it, but that's ridiculous in this instance, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 And I don't get how you don't get what I'm getting at. Get it? (what?) I'm just saying, if a freak accident like this occurs with anyone else, it's not blown out of proportion like this, and people aren't racing to vilify anyone, IMO. I mean, I get your point of it being Cooke, so we should question it, but that's ridiculous in this instance, IMO. your last line...I understood and agreed and then you confused me with "thats ridiculous in this instance". I guess your telling me this is a 100% accident, and I'm disagreeing with you. Your telling me that whoever did this, its definetly an accident. I'm saying, I disagree that its that cut and dried, Im not saying he went after the achilles specifically, Im just saying I have a shred of doubt about what he actually had intent to do. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 "Have now seen all the replays everyone at home gets to see. Changed my mind after I saw backside camera. This was not an accident." "It was one of two things. Either intentional or exceptionally reckless. Either way Cooke has taken out the best defenceman in the game." Either option doesn't make it better/excusable. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Time to shut down the league if that's exceptionally reckless. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Justin @jtbourne Chris Neil should be fined for his flat violence on a non-engaging player who did nothing wrong in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I don't recall Craig Button ever really being that smart before, but he's being really reasonable on TSN2 right now. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 "Have now seen all the replays everyone at home gets to see. Changed my mind after I saw backside camera. This was not an accident." "It was one of two things. Either intentional or exceptionally reckless. Either way Cooke has taken out the best defenceman in the game." Either option doesn't make it better/excusable. who said that? Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Play-by-play guy for Sens on Sportsnet iirc. Alfredsson on Cooke hit: "I don't know if it was intentional. But why would you hit someone that way?" Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Look, I'm not taking anything at face value coming from the Sens organization right now. They are upset, and they have every right to be about losing their best player, but I wouldn't expect calm, collected, rational responses right now, no matter how classy or professional someone is. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Justin @jtbourne Chris Neil should be fined for his flat violence on a non-engaging player who did nothing wrong in the first place. So looking at that I don't see "Neil took like 4 swings at Cooke's head.". I see a couple of cross checks and some sucker punches. You tried to make it sound like Neil went all Bertuzzi on him... Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Seth Rorabaugh @emptynetters Alfredsson: "I saw it quick. I don’t know if its intent to injure. I don’t know why you would hit somebody like that in that situation." - Yeah, don't know why a player would want to put the body on the best player on the opposing team against the boards when the puck is there either. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 So looking at that I don't see "Neil took like 4 swings at Cooke's head.". I see a couple of cross checks and some sucker punches. You tried to make it sound like Neil went all Bertuzzi on him... Na, didn't mean it like that. It wasn't that bad, obviously, but that was kinda my roundabout point, in that even that had much more malicious intent than the Karlsson play did. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Pretty sure he means with a skate in the air but whatver. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice Slow motion replay of Cooke hit on Karlsson is tough to watch. Pretty much anyone else delivers hit and no one thinks it wasn't an accident. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Highly respected Devils writer ^^ Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 So looking at that I don't see "Neil took like 4 swings at Cooke's head.". I see a couple of cross checks and some sucker punches. You tried to make it sound like Neil went all Bertuzzi on him... damn I enjoyed watching that. Was there any more on Cooke? I wish they had gone after Crosby. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Akim Aliu @Dreamer_Aliu78 Really feel for Ottawa's Karlsson.. Had the same injury, the exact same way ... Exciting young player! #speedyrecovery Wonder if the player that did this to Aliu got lambasted on the internet. Things like this happen, unfortunately, in a high speed, physical game played with knives on your feet. It sucks, but it does. Link to post Share on other sites
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