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Why The World Of Poker Is Unfair

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Now this is not a badbeat post, but rather some "insight"This weekend I placed 9th in a $20 PL Hold'em tourney on Pokerstars. I had a little better than average chips and raise to about 3000 with 600/1200 blinds in about MP with A4s. A guy two to left calls with average chips calls. The Flop comes 10 8 3 with 2 spades. I bet the pot...he calls. On the turn I bet 3/4 of the pot when a 2 falls and he callsA non spade Q falls on the river I bet about 12,000 all in and he thinks and calls. He turns over Q9, no spades. He called me down with an offsuit Q9, a gunshot when we both had average chips. Without the queen he had Queen-high. I was out in 9th and won about $40, he placed 1 and won $600. So i was a little pissed about it due to his preflop call and his calling station ways.I logged not Pokerstars today and find "WhitField74" won the Pokerstars Million and took home $149,000. The same guy calling me down with Queen high, check his thepokerdb stats and see this guy hasnt won anything, at least on Stars...sigh :club: I calling station guy with no clue won $149,000. If he had never caught a queen on the river against me he would have been knocked outta the tournment, not won $600 and probably not had the bankroll to play the $215. Either that or Phil ivey plays on Stars
He had you on a draw, too. Neither draw hit, but his QQ panned out. I WILL say that I for one, can't play like that. Some people are major luckboxes and play carefree and loose and it works for them. Not me.
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Don't worry, Whitfield was a luckbox at the FT yesterday too. Then after getting heads-up with a 7:1 lead he decides to make a deal.

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do you really think that playing Ace rag suited so agressive in mid position with average chipstack that late in the tourny was your best play there? If you laid it down pre flop like you should have you might have won it.Just my opinion. Some people are more aggressive. I don't play as much online because people think any ace is a golden ticket.

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My question is what the hell you're doing pushing in on the river. The guy called, not only your flop bet, but also your turn bet. I'm well aware that he actually had nothing, but the smooth calls should have scared you a little. I believe this is an example of bad play getting beat by bad play.

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what's the point of this thread? seriously, if this guy wasn't a regular he'd be getting so flamed right now.to be honest, i don't really care, but i kinda do..so i guess that's why im writing this.people love flaming new guys, but give respect to older vets even though sometimes they start up the same kinda threads.this isn't a jab at you OP, i don't really "flame" online, i'm just pointing out hypocrisy's that bug me...in a sorta weird way.?everyone know's poker isn't fair (and if they don't they probably suck at poker)..i'm sorry "it" didn't work out for you, although I'm not quite sure what 'it' is exactly....you gotta get lucky at times in a poker tournament and for whatever reason duder did and you didnt.everyone has something to complain about with poker. doesn't matter if you are a high stakes pro or a low limit grinder...i guess I just don't get this point of threads like this...especially when certain people can make them and not get flamed, but put joe shmoe in the OP and he'd be taking punches left and right.that's my 'insight'.- Jordanagain, OP dont take it personally..i like you as a poster (not that it really matters) and i'm not trying to attack you, just pointing out something that happens often on this msg board.

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the almost exact thing happened to me the other day in a stars MTTI was well above the average in chips, almost to the cash when the following hand came up. I got AJs on the button, it folds to me and I make a standard raise of 3xBB..the guy in the SB, who ive gotten most of my chips from, calls. Flop comes out J 8 3, rainbow. I bet about 2/3 the pot, and he calls. The turn is a 7, bet strong again and he calls. Now at this point he had like 800 chips left so he invested like over 80% of his stack at this point. The river is a queen and he goes all in..I call and he flips over QT..so he basically risked his entire tournament life callin me down with a gutshot. He went on to finish pretty high.Thats poker. It's annoying but im glad ppl like this play the game.

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the almost exact thing happened to me the other day in a stars MTTI was well above the average in chips, almost to the cash when the following hand came up. I got AJs on the button, it folds to me and I make a standard raise of 3xBB..the guy in the SB, who ive gotten most of my chips from, calls. Flop comes out J 8 3, rainbow. I bet about 2/3 the pot, and he calls. The turn is a 7, bet strong again and he calls. Now at this point he had like 800 chips left so he invested like over 80% of his stack at this point. The river is a queen and he goes all in..I call and he flips over QT..so he basically risked his entire tournament life callin me down with a gutshot. He went on to finish pretty high.Thats poker. It's annoying but im glad ppl like this play the game.
you say that "almost the exact thing happened to me" only there is one crucial difference...... you actually had something
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you say that "almost the exact thing happened to me" only there is one crucial difference...... you actually had something
lol..ok well "almost" in relation to the type of opponents we were up against, and the type of hands they were callin down with.
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Now this is not a badbeat post, but rather some "insight"This weekend I placed 9th in a $20 PL Hold'em tourney on Pokerstars. I had a little better than average chips and raise to about 3000 with 600/1200 blinds in about MP with A4s. A guy two to left calls with average chips calls. The Flop comes 10 8 3 with 2 spades. I bet the pot...he calls. On the turn I bet 3/4 of the pot when a 2 falls and he callsA non spade Q falls on the river I bet about 12,000 all in and he thinks and calls. He turns over Q9, no spades. He called me down with an offsuit Q9, a gunshot when we both had average chips. Without the queen he had Queen-high. I was out in 9th and won about $40, he placed 1 and won $600. So i was a little pissed about it due to his preflop call and his calling station ways.I logged not Pokerstars today and find "WhitField74" won the Pokerstars Million and took home $149,000. The same guy calling me down with Queen high, check his thepokerdb stats and see this guy hasnt won anything, at least on Stars...sigh :club: I calling station guy with no clue won $149,000. If he had never caught a queen on the river against me he would have been knocked outta the tournment, not won $600 and probably not had the bankroll to play the $215. Either that or Phil ivey plays on Stars
So you went all in on the river with a stone cold bluff and got picked off, and I should feel for you becuase?? Just maybe the other guy had paid attention to your play, not just his own 2 cards. He knew you were on a busted draw and picked you off. Not trying to pick on you, but at what point when you got cold called, preflop, on the flop and on the turn were you going to consider the chance you might be beat?Seriously, what hand did you have him on? Me- It smells like a slow played set. no way am i tossing $12,000 on the river. Sure it turns out you were ahead until the river, but you couldn't know that. The only missed draw is the one you misssed.Mistake one- Fold preflopMistake two- check the turnMistake three- check the river
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Unfair?...you started out with a semi-bluff then lost on a panic bluff and I'm betting that the guy had you pegged as being prone to a continuation bet or put you on a small pair in the position you were in. He probably had you covered and may have been contemplating a move on you if he missed completely anyway...I'm sure your a decent player and all but dont start whinning about people getting lucky when you put all your chips in with A high. Unfair is a runner runner 5% comeback. Unfair is someone hitting quads on the river when you have a higher full house and already put all of your chips in. The guy may have been a luckbox, but you just make yourself look dumb making posts like this. Unfair is a months straight worth of suckouts taking down your entire BR when you are no less than a 70-30 favorite with your chips in the middle, other than that its just poker.Chad

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Um well as you all were writing i just won a $10 sit-n-go so i think that gives me plenty reason to defend my play. A4s is a superior hand at all times and all positions. Bluffing on pokerstars always works and i knew it would.Next time u think of flaming me, well i was almost burned alive and underwent 26 skin graphs to repair my body, so i know the meaning of "Flamed" Just why did you think my avatar is of Death from Family Guy?So if you win over $30 in a single session they give me tips...all right ill shut up, ill waive the white flag and offer a peace pipe if we all cool down. Deal...or No Deal?

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all right ill shut up, ill waive the white flag and offer a peace pipe if we all cool down. Deal...or No Deal?
Deal!I do like your point that the guy who won the million GUA is a donkey,btw. His play was either brilliant or horrible, and my gut says horriible.
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