Fluffdog87 2 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I SURE THINK HE IS.I GUESS HE IS A SEMI-PRO IN AUSTRAILIA WITH GOOD TOURNEY RESULTS THERE. Link to post Share on other sites
PFunk 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 of course he is... Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 YES Link to post Share on other sites
mb5322 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I cannot constructively respond to this as I have never played with any of these players, but from what I've seen my best guess is: YES AND YES Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaOmega 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I WOULD SAY THAT HACHEM IS BETTER THAN MONEYMAKER AND VARKONI BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH DONKS, BUT WHAT WOULD I KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO TURN THE CAPS LOCK OFF ON MY COMPUTER SO THAT I DON'T SOUND LIKE AN UNCIVILIZED BARBARIAN WHEN PEOPLE READ MY POSTS. Link to post Share on other sites
Fluffdog87 2 Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 WAHOOOOOOOO FOR CAPS LOCK LOL Link to post Share on other sites
nell789 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I WOULD SAY THAT HACHEM IS BETTER THAN MONEYMAKER AND VARKONI BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH DONKS, BUT WHAT WOULD I KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO TURN THE CAPS LOCK OFF ON MY COMPUTER SO THAT I DON'T SOUND LIKE AN UNCIVILIZED BARBARIAN WHEN PEOPLE READ MY POSTS.well said Link to post Share on other sites
UNCpoker 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Better than both of those from what I have seen, but I would take Raymer over him. Link to post Share on other sites
AlohaBruce 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Joe's better than both of them. Link to post Share on other sites
marksalot123 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 He is definately better. At no point did he get a lot of chips in drawing slim, which both moneymaker and varkonyi did like it was goin gout of style. He knows how to play deep stacked and can play well after the flop, as well as release a hand (I have a strong feeling that either varkonyi or moneymaker if not both would have called with the AK of diamonds). I have played live nl with moneymaker, and i have never seen more suckouts, allthough this was a long time ago and he has gotten better. Link to post Share on other sites
Oziumrules 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Only time will tell, but my opinion is he is better than Vark & tied with Moneymaker. Link to post Share on other sites
The Enforcer 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 from what i have seen, Hachem is much better although I think Raymer is way better than all of them. Raymer is really the only guy who has risen up from skilled amateur to top professional. Link to post Share on other sites
Kangaroo 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 he has to be, he's Australian. Link to post Share on other sites
UNCpoker 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 from what i have seen, Hachem is much better although I think Raymer is way better than all of them. Raymer is really the only guy who has risen up from skilled amateur to top professional.That's a fact, there have been very few times that Raymor puts his money in with the worst of it, but most of those times he knew it and thought it was worth the risk.I like the commentary he did on his recap of the 2004 year that he won it. Gives good insight to why he did what he did on hands. Link to post Share on other sites
PhishForChips 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hatchem actually made a final table in another event in the WSOP this year. That alone means he's probably much more skilled. Link to post Share on other sites
reedmcneal 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Raymer, Hachem, Varkonyi, Moneymaker. Thats my opinion on the comparative skill level of the last 4 champs. Link to post Share on other sites
reedmcneal 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I think if Raymer played a bigger schedule, he could be a very successful tournament player. He seems to know how to navigate large fields, and is a great big stack player from what I've seen. Link to post Share on other sites
Lee2k 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 After watching the world series so far I have to say I have respect for hachem which I never had for moneymaker or varkoni. I think Hachem has made some good lay downs and raises. Link to post Share on other sites
bcook823 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hachem seems to be a pretty good player, but the verdict is still out. We see a few hands on tv and thats it. I am anxious to see if he plays in wpt events, ect worldwide."pass the sugar"...a little much for my taste Link to post Share on other sites
RainDogz 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 "pass the sugar"...a little much for my tasteYes that comment was a bit over the edge for me to.I like his style of play though. Raymer still miles ahead in the top of that list.Without that ugly 2 on the river, who knows what might have happened. Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Time will tell. I also would like to see Hachem in a few more events. We have seen Moneymaker play post WSOP. I personally have never seen Varkonyi play any other tv events.Right now I would rank them:1a. Hachem1b. Moneymaker3. VarkonyiThey all have bracelets though, so I can't hate on them too much. A win in the WSOP Main Event is a win. Link to post Share on other sites
fmlycar 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 moneymakes is the greatest wsop Main Event champion of all timethe obligatory (sw) Link to post Share on other sites
STYLINHAWYN 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 moneymaker and varkoni are tools with identical poker skills toTiffany Williamson, Danny Nguyen, and the rest of the tools that got lucky enough to win/survive in a huge WSOP/WPT event.those two are and never will be contenders with the likes of raymer and hachem Link to post Share on other sites
Golden 2 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Raymer, Hachem, Varkonyi, Moneymaker. Thats my opinion on the comparative skill level of the last 4 champs.Seconded. Varkonyi pwns Moneymaker. Link to post Share on other sites
ggriffin 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 "pass the sugar"...a little much for my tasteYes that comment was a bit over the edge for me to.I like his style of play though. i thought that was hilarious. i'm still workin on my accent though. Link to post Share on other sites
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