New Challenge: Movin' On Up

[SuperJon 175]

yeah, imma fishFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersButton: $68.65 (Hero)SB: $88.40 BB: $105.20 UTG: $50.05 UTG+1: $40.00 CO: $23.40 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with (6 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1Flop: ($3.25) (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $2.15, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $3.85Turn: ($15.25) (2 players)BB bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50River: ($34.25) (2 players)BB bets $22, Hero raises to $51.65 and is all-in, BB foldsHero collected $75.25(Rake: $3)

[trystero 0]

lol at those hands Jamespeople drunk off the turkey juiceJon I'm sure you had some read because otherwise that hands makes zero sense

[SuperJon 175]

yeah quite a bit of history with villain.

[KingJames 11]

lol at those hands Jamespeople drunk off the turkey juiceJon I'm sure you had some read because otherwise that hands makes zero sense

thoughts on the flop with AKs in the 4b pot oop?

[KosinTrouble 0]

I think I like the c/f...Can easily see villian with some pocket pair of T's+ as a 4bet calling range, if he happened to call with 8's,9's then he has us crushed. If we c-bet, there is no way villian will fold any of those pocket pairs. Better places to stak a fish imo...Kosin Trouble

[nutzzcase 0]

after losing 10 buyins at 10nl decided to play some HU PLO kinda proud the way i played . http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/multihands.php/id/32642

[Manign 0]

Should I have done a c-bet on the flop instead of delaying it?Milked from the teat of a feral cowPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 4 playersButton: $1.69 (Hero)SB: $1.67 BB: $4.93 UTG: $5.17 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is Button with (4 players)UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.07, BB foldsFlop: ($0.18) (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($0.18) (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.16, SB calls $0.16River: ($0.50) (2 players)SB checks, Hero checks

[Manign 0]

I'm always scared of flops like these.Feral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 5 playersButton: $5.16 SB: $2.27 BB: $1.96 (Hero)UTG: $2.29 CO: $2.01 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with (5 players)UTG raises to $0.04, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.14, UTG calls $0.10Flop: ($0.29) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10Turn: ($0.49) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG checksRiver: ($0.49) (2 players)Hero bets $0.26

[Manign 0]

Is there any rule to c-bet sizes? I just usually double my pre-raise.Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersButton: $1.95 (Hero)SB: $2.00 BB: $3.13 UTG: $3.21 UTG+1: $5.02 CO: $2.03 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is Button with (6 players)UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.08Flop: ($0.23) (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $0.16

[Manign 0]

And then this hand. I loved this.Almost up fifty blinds for my bankroll. So many more to go til I get to a hundred bucks.once a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersUTG: $5.60 UTG+1: $3.26 CO: $2.38 (Hero)Button: $2.00 SB: $2.12 BB: $0.90 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with (6 players)UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $0.02, Button folds, SB calls $0.01, BB checksFlop: ($0.08) (4 players)SB checks, BB bets $0.06, UTG calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, SB foldsTurn: ($0.26) (3 players)BB bets $0.14, UTG raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.20, BB folds, UTG calls $0.70River: ($2.80) (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $1.10 and is all-in, UTG calls $1.10UTG mucked :3dHero showed , and won ($4.76) with a full house, Kings full of QueensHero won $4.76(Rake: $0.24)

[SuperJon 175]

Is there any rule to c-bet sizes? I just usually double my pre-raise.

Standard is a little more than half pot, I usually go around 70%. There's also different factors to consider like board texture, # of opponents, opponent's tendencies. Like against a fish, you can cbet smaller since they're check folding a lot.

[SuperJon 175]

UTG+1 was a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEE fish.Limped, called any raise. Donked the minimum on every street a few times. Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersButton: $78.05 SB: $19.25 BB: $50.00 (Hero)UTG: $50.00 UTG+1: $192.05 CO: $48.15 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50, CO folds, Button raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, Hero raises to $7, UTG+1 calls $6.50, Button calls $5, SB calls $5Flop: ($28.00) (4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $17.50, UTG+1 calls $17.50, Button folds, SB calls $12.25 and is all-inTurn: ($75.25) (3 players)Hero bets $25.50 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $25.50River: ($126.25) (3 players)SB showed , and lost with high card KingHero showed , and won ($123.25) with three of a kind, JacksUTG+1 showed , and lost with high card AceHero won $123.25(Rake: $3)

[KosinTrouble 0]

Should I have done a c-bet on the flop instead of delaying it?Milked from the teat of a feral cowPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 4 playersButton: $1.69 (Hero)SB: $1.67 BB: $4.93 UTG: $5.17 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is Button with (4 players)UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.07, BB foldsFlop: ($0.18) (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($0.18) (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.16, SB calls $0.16River: ($0.50) (2 players)SB checks, Hero checks

Personally I like the way you played this hand. I think its a gross flop, completly connected with all the straight and lots of 2pair combo's. The turn, I would have bet a bit smaller. And I would just check river with villian calling turn.Kosin Trouble

[KosinTrouble 0]

I'm always scared of flops like these.Feral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 5 playersButton: $5.16 SB: $2.27 BB: $1.96 (Hero)UTG: $2.29 CO: $2.01 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with (5 players)UTG raises to $0.04, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.14, UTG calls $0.10Flop: ($0.29) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10Turn: ($0.49) (2 players)Hero checks, UTG checksRiver: ($0.49) (2 players)Hero bets $0.26

Like your 3bet pre...Whats the range you put your villian on once the flop comes? If you c/c the flop what cards are you hoping to come on the turn? If a K or A comes will that be enough to beat villian? Personally I can see lots of hands villian can bet flop with when checked too, pretty much all pocket pairs and some AJ, KJ, AT, KT, QT, JT ect... So I dont mind c/c.Hit your A now what? I prefer b/f. I think for the most part you are ahead of the majority of his range. You c/c on the flop so he probably figures your chasing an A, so if you check he is most likely going to check as well. so I prefer betting out, make him think you are bluffing and he will call. If he has AJ,AT he'll raise you up and you can safely fold.River: As played, I like the bet.Kosin Trouble

[KosinTrouble 0]

Is there any rule to c-bet sizes? I just usually double my pre-raise.Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersButton: $1.95 (Hero)SB: $2.00 BB: $3.13 UTG: $3.21 UTG+1: $5.02 CO: $2.03 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is Button with (6 players)UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.08Flop: ($0.23) (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $0.16

cbet size if villian dependant. Some will fold to anything over a half pot bet, others wont fold to anything but a pot size bet. Most of the people at 2NL dont look at bet sizing, so if you notice someone who folds to a lot of cbets, just bet half pot. But then closes to pot when you do hit. They wont pick up on it, you will make money when you hit. And lose less when they do call your cbets.Kosin Trouble

[KosinTrouble 0]

UTG+1 was a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEE fish.Limped, called any raise. Donked the minimum on every street a few times. Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersButton: $78.05 SB: $19.25 BB: $50.00 (Hero)UTG: $50.00 UTG+1: $192.05 CO: $48.15 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50, CO folds, Button raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, Hero raises to $7, UTG+1 calls $6.50, Button calls $5, SB calls $5Flop: ($28.00) (4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $17.50, UTG+1 calls $17.50, Button folds, SB calls $12.25 and is all-inTurn: ($75.25) (3 players)Hero bets $25.50 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $25.50River: ($126.25) (3 players)SB showed , and lost with high card KingHero showed , and won ($123.25) with three of a kind, JacksUTG+1 showed , and lost with high card AceHero won $123.25(Rake: $3)

Niccceeeeeeeeeeee! On the flip side, why or why couldnt SB have a full stak as well!Kosin Trouble

[SuperJon 175]

Feral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 5 playersButton: $49.75 SB: $73.35 BB: $61.90 UTG: $60.55 CO: $52.05 (Hero)Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with (5 players)UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, Button folds, SB calls $1.25, BB foldsFlop: ($3.50) (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $2.30, SB calls $2.30Turn: ($8.10) (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($8.10) (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4,SB mucked :7sHero showed , and won ($15.35) with two pair, Tens and FivesHero won $15.35(Rake: $0.75)

[SuperJon 175]

Not the best day results wise, but I did a lot of studying and I really think I played my best game today.

[nutzzcase 0]

thoughts?Milked from the teat of a feral cowPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 5 playersBB: $10.00 UTG: $10.00 CO: $10.00 Button: $23.92 (Hero)SB: $10.15 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is Button with (5 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $1, BB folds, Hero calls $0.70Flop: ($2.10) (2 players)SB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20Turn: ($4.50) (2 players)SB bets $2.90, Hero calls $2.90River: ($10.30) (2 players)SB bets $5.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.05(Rake: $0.99)

[KosinTrouble 0]

thoughts?Milked from the teat of a feral cowPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 5 playersBB: $10.00 UTG: $10.00 CO: $10.00 Button: $23.92 (Hero)SB: $10.15 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is Button with (5 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $1, BB folds, Hero calls $0.70Flop: ($2.10) (2 players)SB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20Turn: ($4.50) (2 players)SB bets $2.90, Hero calls $2.90River: ($10.30) (2 players)SB bets $5.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.05(Rake: $0.99)

Any reads on villian? Does he 3bet light when you raise from the btn at all?i find most of them dont 3bet light, in which case I dont hate a fold on the river... Villian seemed to be betting with intention of getting it in. so wouldnt surprise me to see JJ+ here in this situation. Only real hands we beat is AK, TT and I dont think villian would shove a half a stak on the river with those. That being said, I'm a fish and would probably still call the river.Kosin Trouble

[SuperJon 175]

thoughts?Milked from the teat of a feral cowPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 5 playersBB: $10.00 UTG: $10.00 CO: $10.00 Button: $23.92 (Hero)SB: $10.15 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is Button with (5 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $1, BB folds, Hero calls $0.70Flop: ($2.10) (2 players)SB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20Turn: ($4.50) (2 players)SB bets $2.90, Hero calls $2.90River: ($10.30) (2 players)SB bets $5.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.05(Rake: $0.99)

It's a WA/WB situation, so I think you played it fine, but I wouldn't be surprised if we don't have the best hand here.

[nutzzcase 0]

Any reads on villian? Does he 3bet light when you raise from the btn at all?i find most of them dont 3bet light, in which case I dont hate a fold on the river... Villian seemed to be betting with intention of getting it in. so wouldnt surprise me to see JJ+ here in this situation. Only real hands we beat is AK, TT and I dont think villian would shove a half a stak on the river with those. That being said, I'm a fish and would probably still call the river.Kosin Trouble

villain is playing tight and doesn't 3bet light (god i hate playing micro stakes lol)Anyways the only hands that make sense are KK or AA (qq is unlikely and i don't expect him to bet JJ on the turn the way he's been playing)EDIT: I hate pokerz!

[KosinTrouble 0]

villain is playing tight and doesn't 3bet light (god i hate playing micro stakes lol)Anyways the only hands that make sense are KK or AA (qq is unlikely and i don't expect him to bet JJ on the turn the way he's been playing)EDIT: I hate pokerz!

Yeah if he's playing tight, then I would fold the river. Better places to risk 1/2 a bi. But again like I said, I'd still end up paying him off.BTW Nutzzcase, you usually play MTT and SnG's dont you? You moving to cash games or just trying cash games out?Kosin TroubleKosin Trouble

[nutzzcase 0]

Yeah if he's playing tight, then I would fold the river. Better places to risk 1/2 a bi. But again like I said, I'd still end up paying him off.BTW Nutzzcase, you usually play MTT and SnG's dont you? You moving to cash games or just trying cash games out?Kosin TroubleKosin Trouble

im moving to cash games for a while (mtts have been frustrating for me lately)I usually prefer playing live cash games (so much softer lol) but im trying to get better online and trying to build a bankroll again.

[trystero 0]

yeah if you call w/AQ pf then you can't do anything else postflop. since you say villain doesn't 3bet light, pf should be a simple fold