New Challenge: Movin' On Up

[trystero 0]

very nice work

[KingJames 11]

Remind me about the Neg-O on AIM tonight James

yes sirI've also picked up your dry cleaning, made your dinner reservations and shined your shoes.Is there anything else I can do for you before I retire to my quarters?for realz tho, prob going to dinner with my parents... so might not play the neg-odepends on timing etc

[SuperJon 175]

How I hold up here...I don't really care.Converting hands till the cows come homePokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersBB: $81.45 UTG: $50.00 (Hero)UTG+1: $50.00 CO: $81.05 Button: $60.75 SB: $18.90 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with (6 players)Hero raises to $1.50, UTG+1 calls $1.50, CO folds, Button calls $1.50, 2 foldsFlop: ($5.25) (3 players)Hero bets $4.50, UTG+1 raises to $48.50 and is all-in, Button folds, Hero calls $44 and is all-inTurn: ($102.25) (2 players)River: ($102.25) (2 players)Hero showed , and won ($99.25) with three of a kind, FoursUTG+1 showed , and lost with high card AceHero won $99.25(Rake: $3)

[BellaireDrew 2]

EDIT: vent post deleted cause they are stupid

[KingJames 11]

sorry drew

[SuperJon 175]

ok w/o reads?Dont have a cow, heres your converted handPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersUTG+1: $50.00 CO: $62.85 (Hero)Button: $54.60 SB: $50.00 BB: $98.75 UTG: $54.70 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with (6 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1Flop: ($3.25) (2 players)BB bets $2, Hero calls $2Turn: ($7.25) (2 players)BB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50River: ($16.25) (2 players)BB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

[KingJames 11]

yup

[SuperJon 175]

easiest river decision evarThis converter is going to be a cash cow...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersSB: $50.80 BB: $75.35 (Hero)UTG: $46.60 UTG+1: $50.00 CO: $145.00 Button: $54.65 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with (6 players)2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls $2, SB folds, Hero calls $1.50Flop: ($6.25) :D (3 players)Hero checks, CO bets $3.50, Button calls $3.50, Hero raises to $14, CO calls $10.50, Button foldsTurn: ($37.75) (2 players)Hero bets $17, CO calls $17River: ($71.75) (2 players)Hero bets $42.35 and is all-in, CO calls $42.35Hero showed , and won ($153.45) with four of a kind, TensCO showed , and lost with two pair, Queens and TensHero won $153.45(Rake: $3)

[KingJames 11]

[SuperJon 175]

Is it still considered "thin value" when they play so bad?*both hands vs. same bad guyFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersSB: $53.20 BB: $166.50 (Hero)UTG: $90.70 UTG+1: $50.00 CO: $40.50 Button: $51.10 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with (6 players)2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Button folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checksFlop: ($1.50) :4h (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, SB foldsTurn: ($4.50) (2 players)Hero bets $3, CO calls $3River: ($10.50) (2 players)Hero bets $6, CO calls $6Hero showed , and won ($21.40) with a pair of TensCO mucked :4cHero won $21.40(Rake: $1.10)Converted by a herd of feral cowsPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersCO: $53.45 Button: $176.65 (Hero)SB: $90.20 BB: $50.00 UTG: $29.50 UTG+1: $51.10 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with (6 players)UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $4Flop: ($11.75) (2 players)UTG checks, Hero checksTurn: ($11.75) (2 players)UTG checks, Hero checksRiver: ($11.75) (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $3.50, UTG calls $3.50Hero showed , and won ($17.85) with two pair, Queens and JacksUTG mucked :7cHero won $17.85(Rake: $0.90)

[fighter 4]

Ugh. Tale of two tables today. Never any big all-in hands on either table. A lot of $20-$30 pots. Won most of them on one table, lost most on the other. Here are a few that keep me scratching my head.The HH converter messed up here. The Button is actually the SB(notice how the button keeps acting first). So Villain check/called my flop raise. Everybody checked to me on the river.Is the flop raise spewy or ok? Is flatting the flop ever an option (I didn't think it was). I may have barreled the turn but not when the Button cold calls the flop. Is checking behind on the river an option?The open/CB is fine (right?). I REALLLLLLY though about 3-betting the flop, cause I didn't feel like the CO was huge. I felt making a move on the turn would look odd and may get looked up by a lot of Ax hands. Such a gross tease with both turn and river being black... ugh.

Eddie hand 1 if you call pf you can't play it any other way probablyhand 2 I don't know about this raise multiway against unknowns, but I kind of like it. You can't call, you're right. River is a bet/fold.hand 3 looks safe but goodrun better.

hand 1. I think you can fold the river verse a good player at this limit. He is not betting that much as a bluff at this level, and he is not doing it with a hand for value that we beat. Getting 1:x on our money only matters if he is bluffing or VBing worse >100/x % of the time. If he knew we were a reasonable player or he had seen us fold here before or he was a bad player then I would call. hand 2: I hate the flop raise. The theory behind going AI with Combo draws is that we have so much equity (35-48%) that we don't need him to fold that often for it to be profitable. When we bluff with a hand like 66, we have 2 outs and 1 of them completes a flush. So with 8-4% equity we need him to fold ALOT. On this flop, a ridiculous amount of hands connect. Not only does he not fold often enough when he doesn't lead into us, the fact he has means he is often calling at least once, this means you have to fire multiple streets or give up and I hate both options. I would fold flop and if you must, bluff raise with other hands like 87, JK, J9, XsXs, AsQx, AxKs. Hand 3: Pre flop is no where near standard. That doesn't make it bad you just need a reasonable reads on you opponents and right game conditions. If CO/BTN are tight abc regs (<21% vpip, <5% 3b from those positions) and there is a fish in the blinds (loose passive kind, not aggro kind) then I like it. Most other times I don't. After flop, with BB giving you insane odds and most likely having a dominated flush, I like the way you played it. Fold river if they bet.

EDIT: vent post deleted cause they are stupid

Well done, I think that vent posts hinder our poker development and I have been trying to not post them with mixed results.

ok w/o reads?Dont have a cow, heres your converted handPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersUTG+1: $50.00 CO: $62.85 (Hero)Button: $54.60 SB: $50.00 BB: $98.75 UTG: $54.70 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with (6 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1Flop: ($3.25) (2 players)BB bets $2, Hero calls $2Turn: ($7.25) (2 players)BB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50River: ($16.25) (2 players)BB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

I kind of like shoving. He can't be that strong with his turn and river sizing.I would probably just call though and sigh when he shows AQ

[trystero 0]

Jon's last hand was just a stack-brag

[SuperJon 175]

I would probably just call though and sigh when he shows AQ

Yeah, I called and laughed when he showed J6.

[KingJames 11]

[ ] Fold[ ] Jam[ ] Call????Villain is 27/21/2 over 140 hands. 0/4 fold to cbet. This is the first time he has c/r'dI feel like this is going to be QJ, TT more than a stone bluff, T8 or similar... thoughts?I bet the flop bc he never folds to cbets, so if he's gonna call with A-high or some gutshots or something I decided I should bet. Thoughts?Converted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1 Iles88: $27.93 CO Hero: $25.00 Button ThugZAce: $25.00 SB Quadardo: $25.00 BB taz571: $37.12 UTG Egotrip55: $17.53 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, taz571 calls $0.50Flop: ($1.60) (2 players)taz571 checks, Hero bets $1, taz571 calls $1Turn: ($3.60) (2 players)taz571 checks, Hero bets $2.50, taz571 raises to $8,

[KosinTrouble 0]

[ ] Fold[ ] Jam[ ] Call????Villain is 27/21/2 over 140 hands. 0/4 fold to cbet. This is the first time he has c/r'dI feel like this is going to be QJ, TT more than a stone bluff, T8 or similar... thoughts?I bet the flop bc he never folds to cbets, so if he's gonna call with A-high or some gutshots or something I decided I should bet. Thoughts?Converted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1 Iles88: $27.93 CO Hero: $25.00 Button ThugZAce: $25.00 SB Quadardo: $25.00 BB taz571: $37.12 UTG Egotrip55: $17.53 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, taz571 calls $0.50Flop: ($1.60) (2 players)taz571 checks, Hero bets $1, taz571 calls $1Turn: ($3.60) (2 players)taz571 checks, Hero bets $2.50, taz571 raises to $8,

First time villian does a c/r in 140 hands, I will give him credit for a decent hand. Just dont see villian bluffing at all here or even doing that with TP. So if he doesnt have air, the only thing I can see villian doing that with which we beat is AA which he would have 3bet prior so thats out. So that leaves trips, 2pairs and straights all of which crush you, so yeah I like a fold. But I like the flop cbet. Kosin Trouble

[trystero 0]

gross spota fold is probably best. He cannot even have a combo draw (like tp + FD) as this board is rainbow. ptr does say he's aggro postflop, so this may be one of those spots where you have two pair and just aren't folding. sick if he has T9 though.

[Lee 0]

I'm relatively new to poker, and really just testing out the handy dandy conversion tool. There's nothing too special in this hand. Inexperience on his end, inexperience on my end, either way I got the rest of his dough.Dont have a cow, heres your converted handFull Tilt Pot Limit Hold'em $0.02/$0.05 - 8 playersBB: $5.00 UTG: $3.74 UTG+1: $0.94 MP: $6.77 HJ: $1.88 (Hero)CO: $1.62 Button: $5.55 SB: $5.00 Preflop: ($0.07) Hero is HJ with (8 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, Button folds, SB calls $0.13, 2 folds, MP calls $0.10Flop: ($0.70) (4 players)SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.55, CO calls $0.55, 2 foldsTurn: ($1.80) (2 players)Hero checks, CO checksRiver: ($1.80) (2 players)Hero bets $1.18, and is all in, CO calls $0.92, and is all inHero showed , and won ($3.40) with a flush, Ace highCO mucked Hero won $3.40(Rake: $0.24)

[BellaireDrew 2]

I know you didn't post that hand for strat but a few things.1. always buy in for max and have auto top off on 2. raise more pre flop usually 3x+the number of limpers3. I'd bet the turn, don't want a hart to fall and kill your action

[trystero 0]

watching the big game, I'm hoping that this analyst Joe Stapleton (I don't know him) is aware of how ridiculous his made-for-tv analysis is.He's commenting on one of the players: for the first 15 hands her VPIP was 6%, and she lost $4,000. In the past 25 hands her VPIP is 20%, and that's +$11k profit. Tells me she's gotten comfortable at these stakes and is willing to mix it up to win the moneys.OrIn her first 15 hands, card dead.25 hands, get better hands, hit flops, and win money.

[Lee 0]

I know you didn't post that hand for strat but a few things.1. always buy in for max and have auto top off on 2. raise more pre flop usually 3x+the number of limpers3. I'd bet the turn, don't want a hart to fall and kill your action

Y'know, I never thought of things like buying in for the max for whatever reason. I've just been chucking in $2. I'll put that to the test.So, if I have two limpers behind me, I should go 5BB? Makes sense to me.Thanks!

[KingJames 11]

[ ] grinding[x] watching durrrr/JM[x] listening to WoT talk poker philosophygood afternoon

[fighter 4]

watching the big game, I'm hoping that this analyst Joe Stapleton (I don't know him) is aware of how ridiculous his made-for-tv analysis is.He's commenting on one of the players: for the first 15 hands her VPIP was 6%, and she lost $4,000. In the past 25 hands her VPIP is 20%, and that's +$11k profit. Tells me she's gotten comfortable at these stakes and is willing to mix it up to win the moneys.OrIn her first 15 hands, card dead.25 hands, get better hands, hit flops, and win money.

Yeah the stats are kind of a joke. They try and infer way too much from them. However the rest of their advice is really good for the most part. They have someone in the credits listed as "poker police" , that is the person who goes over the hands and tells them what a good player should do and joe just relays it in a more interesting manna. Also I just got a phone call from titan poker yesterday. They call about once a month, when I was playing there it was to ask about how I was finding the software and inform me of promotions. Since I have stopped playing and withdrawn it has been with special offers for me only that are getting progressively more awesome. This month, they have given me $20 in the account free, a $250 bonus to work off and for ever dollar I deposit I get that x10 in bonuses for January. I wish I hadn't recently made my Full Tilt first deposit, Because that is really really awesome. Maybe ignoring this offer will get me a free titan poker boat or something for February though.

[KingJames 11]

boat one time fighter!!!!been listening to this today... goot

[dlingdling 0]

Yeah the stats are kind of a joke. They try and infer way too much from them. However the rest of their advice is really good for the most part. They have someone in the credits listed as "poker police" , that is the person who goes over the hands and tells them what a good player should do and joe just relays it in a more interesting manna.

Jimmy Fricke is Stapleton's main strat ghostwriter/resource. Fricke occasionally cohosts Pokerroad Radio, is a longtime 2+2 poster, and was runner up in the Aussie Millions a few years ago.

[SuperJon 175]

A little PLO hand to change things up.River is obv fold, but what about everywhere else. Seem standard?Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1: $14.30 CO: $25.00 Button: $25.89 (Hero)SB: $18.64 BB: $50.73 UTG: $30.93 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.25, CO raises to $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.75Flop: ($3.35) (3 players)UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero checksTurn: ($3.35) (3 players)UTG+1 bets $1, CO calls $1, Hero calls $1River: ($6.35) (3 players)UTG+1 bets $3, CO raises to $13, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls $9.30 and is all-inUTG+1 showed , and lost with a full house, Jacks full of EightsCO showed , and won ($29.42) with a full house, Aces full of EightsCO won $29.42(Rake: $1.53)