copernicus 0 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Glad we got that settled then. So will Hussein go after Osama or pull all the troops out immediately?Neither. Link to post Share on other sites
20TN40 0 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 my reading skills suck too, apparently, I didn't know that. I find your irrational conservativism much hotter, now, and will probably commence lecherously hitting on you. I apologize for not starting the lechery soonerI'll have to think on this for a while to determine if I am excited or appalled. I'll get back with ya! Link to post Share on other sites
20TN40 0 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Neither.So how do you think he will deal with the Iraq/Osama issues? Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I just read this and he doesn't seem to be far left and had a lot of experience in the Clinton Administration that would help a Chief of Staff.http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Rahm_Emanuel LOLOLOL... "****ing republicans" Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 LOLOLOL... "****ing republicans"I'm curious what specifically makes him far left to you ? Based on the admittedly limited reading I just did it appears that he's Pro-Choice and has been pretty strong in his attacks on the Bush Administration but the legislation that he's authored has been on things like making sure the troops are taken care of when they get home and combating earmark abuse.Emanuel has maintained a 100% pro-choice voting record. Emanuel is known as a centrist Democrat, but also a very strong partisan. He favors "incremental, family-friendly policies in the Clinton mode" like tax-breaks for middle-class families, incentives to encourage workers to save, and importing prescription drugs from Canada to lower the cost to seniors.[13] On the latter proposal he has worked with Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich to pressure the FDA on re-importation.[14] In September 2006, Emanuel and Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) created an amendment to a proposed House rules change regarding earmarking to include a prohibition on earmarks to any organization employing a spouse, family member, or former employee of the sponsor. A spokesman for House Rules Chairman David Dreier (R-Calif.) responded by stating that amendments are not usually permitted to rule changes. Nevertheless, a procedural vote could be forcedOn February 28, 2007, Emanuel introduced the Wounded Warriors Act in the House. The bill would mandate standards of care and facilities for wounded soldiers. It would create a congressionally appointed Wounded Warrior Oversight Board, a 24-hour bilingual hotline, employment protections for caregiver family members and a zero-tolerance for pest infestations at recovery facilities. The bill was introduced in the wake of public furor over a series in the Washington Post detailing squalid conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I'll have to think on this for a while to determine if I am excited or appalled. I'll get back with ya!My preferred reaction would be a combination of both of those. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 So how do you think he will deal with the Iraq/Osama issues?He'll do nothing in Afghanistan/Pakistan, and he'll withdraw when the Generals tell him its time. He will, however, empower petty dictators by giving them an audience they dont have the standing to enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yay for change! Changy cchange change change. Link to post Share on other sites
uncooper 1 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Please find me a group of white Americans that are celebrating this election..........I'd love to see it.I'm not sure if these photos will allay your fears or terrify you further, but I'm glad I could help. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 This is a cool picture. And I mean that artisticly. Not the politics behind it, which disgust me personally. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 This is a cool picture. And I mean that artisticly. Not the politics behind it, which disgust me personally.the thrift store is so appropo. The new chic for the soon to be former middle class. Link to post Share on other sites
obizee 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Agree Henry. And if I hear anyone ever again race bait and say that we are a racist nation I'm gonna kick them in the teeth.Obama got I believe 44% of the total white vote. This election does not prove or disprove that we are a racist nation. Definetely less racist than in the past but not free and clear and we never will be. Actually, I think the shoe is on the other foot now. 96% of blacks in Ohio voted Obama. Wonder why?Yeah I wonder why, just think if your were part of a group that made up 14% of the population of a country, just 143 years ago people that looked like you were still slaves. And you had a chance to vote for someone that looks like you that actually had a chance to win.If Obama had lost, a good many neighborhoods this morning would probably be smoldering.Yeah you don't seem racist at all. Link to post Share on other sites
gobears 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Guess now that the election is over, time for McCain's folks to throw Palin under the bus.She didn't know that Africa was a continent and not a countryShe didn't know what countries were in NAFTAYoutube to fox news story Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yeah you don't seem racist at all.So I make an honest realistic comment and I am a racist? Who the **** are you? You don't know me.But you are right....historically it has been your average middle class white folks that burn down the neighborhoods. What was I thinking.btw, how did Devils night go this year? Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Guess now that the election is over, time for McCain's folks to throw Palin under the bus.She didn't know that Africa was a continent and not a countryShe didn't know what countries were in NAFTAYoutube to fox news story I saw that too. Pretty sad.McCain lost it. Palin helped, but it was McCains fault. Link to post Share on other sites
Danny Dingleberry 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 did you even read the posts you responded to?real cute, did you bother to check the link? the point is - most republicans (at least in this thread) seem to think Obama is some rabid socialist, while a lot of democrats seem to think he is some sort of saviour from the left. He is neither - in fact his ideological stance is more in line with Third Way politics then traditional social democracy. Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Guess now that the election is over, time for McCain's folks to throw Palin under the bus.She didn't know that Africa was a continent and not a countryShe didn't know what countries were in NAFTAYoutube to fox news story OMG and that's on Fox Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 real cute, did you bother to check the link? the point is - most republicans (at least in this thread) seem to think Obama is some rabid socialist, while a lot of democrats seem to think he is some sort of saviour from the left. He is neither - in fact his ideological stance is more in line with Third Way politics then traditional social democracy.I disagree. His core values are socialist. Have you even read his books? Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Guess now that the election is over, time for McCain's folks to throw Palin under the bus.She didn't know that Africa was a continent and not a countryShe didn't know what countries were in NAFTAYoutube to fox news story Wow this is so not at all shocking to anyone who was even remotely paying attention. There's a reason we laughed at this woman for the past two months. Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Just a general thought about this issue of race, or the supposed 'non-issue' of race, regarding the election of Obama as President.I've been watching many interviews today on the news, and online, with many people (an over-whelming majority of black people being interviewed.. I guess I can understand why, but here in the UK - not sure about what it's like in America - it seems like they're interviewing any black person they can find, literally), from Conoleeza Rice, to Colin Powell, to Church ministers, black community leaders, to rappers, singers, tv celebrities, sports stars etc..Almost every one is talking about a victory for the black community.. rather than a victory for change, economically, socially, regarding the war.. whatever. Isn't that in itself inherently racist? To regress to a 'it's us against the white community' attitude... And this type of quote, I must have heard over ten times today. "It's a sign that race is not an issue any more". Well, if it wasn't an issue, why the hell is it being mentioned at EVERY opportunity, and taking up about 75% of the post-election news? If it genuinely wasn't an issue it simply wouldn't be mentioned at all!Isn't this just a very basic contradiction?I'd love it if race wasn't an issue at all, but it just seems like we're deluding ourselves slightly, as it clearly still is... from what I've seen today anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Just a general thought about this issue of race, or the supposed 'non-issue' of race, regarding the election of Obama as President.I've been watching many interviews today on the news, and online, with many people (an over-whelming majority of black people being interviewed.. I guess I can understand why, but here in the UK - not sure about what it's like in America - it seems like they're interviewing any black person they can find, literally), from Conoleeza Rice, to Colin Powell, to Church ministers, black community leaders, to rappers, singers, tv celebrities, sports stars etc..Almost every one is talking about a victory for the black community.. rather than a victory for change, economically, socially, regarding the war.. whatever. Isn't that in itself inherently racist? To regress to a 'it's us against the white community' attitude... And this type of quote, I must have heard over ten times today. "It's a sign that race is not an issue any more". Well, if it wasn't an issue, why the hell is it being mentioned at EVERY opportunity, and taking up about 75% of the post-election news? If it genuinely wasn't an issue it simply wouldn't be mentioned at all!Isn't this just a very basic contradiction?I'd love it if race wasn't an issue at all, but it just seems like we're deluding ourselves slightly, as it clearly still is... from what I've seen today anyway.A GIANT YES to your entire post. Link to post Share on other sites
20TN40 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Just a general thought about this issue of race, or the supposed 'non-issue' of race, regarding the election of Obama as President.I've been watching many interviews today on the news, and online, with many people (an over-whelming majority of black people being interviewed.. I guess I can understand why, but here in the UK - not sure about what it's like in America - it seems like they're interviewing any black person they can find, literally), from Conoleeza Rice, to Colin Powell, to Church ministers, black community leaders, to rappers, singers, tv celebrities, sports stars etc..Almost every one is talking about a victory for the black community.. rather than a victory for change, economically, socially, regarding the war.. whatever. Isn't that in itself inherently racist? To regress to a 'it's us against the white community' attitude... And this type of quote, I must have heard over ten times today. "It's a sign that race is not an issue any more". Well, if it wasn't an issue, why the hell is it being mentioned at EVERY opportunity, and taking up about 75% of the post-election news? If it genuinely wasn't an issue it simply wouldn't be mentioned at all!Isn't this just a very basic contradiction?I'd love it if race wasn't an issue at all, but it just seems like we're deluding ourselves slightly, as it clearly still is... from what I've seen today anyway.I mentioned this a few pages back and asked to see any celebration of white Americans. I was sent a link to the KKK and a link to pictures of a riot in Williamsburg. I hope you fare better. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Just a general thought about this issue of race, or the supposed 'non-issue' of race, regarding the election of Obama as President.I've been watching many interviews today on the news, and online, with many people (an over-whelming majority of black people being interviewed.. I guess I can understand why, but here in the UK - not sure about what it's like in America - it seems like they're interviewing any black person they can find, literally), from Conoleeza Rice, to Colin Powell, to Church ministers, black community leaders, to rappers, singers, tv celebrities, sports stars etc..Almost every one is talking about a victory for the black community.. rather than a victory for change, economically, socially, regarding the war.. whatever. Isn't that in itself inherently racist? To regress to a 'it's us against the white community' attitude... And this type of quote, I must have heard over ten times today. "It's a sign that race is not an issue any more". Well, if it wasn't an issue, why the hell is it being mentioned at EVERY opportunity, and taking up about 75% of the post-election news? If it genuinely wasn't an issue it simply wouldn't be mentioned at all!Isn't this just a very basic contradiction?I'd love it if race wasn't an issue at all, but it just seems like we're deluding ourselves slightly, as it clearly still is... from what I've seen today anyway.It is about race. Always has been.So does talking about it make us racists? Of course not. I'm aiming this at those over reactors too quick to call anyone a racist that would dare have an opinion or comment on it. This double standard BS has got to stop. Link to post Share on other sites
20TN40 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 It is about race. Always has been.So does talking about it make us racists? Of course not. I'm aiming this at those over reactors too quick to call anyone a racist that would dare have an opinion or comment on it. This double standard BS has got to stop.Yeah, like what's our favorite blizzard at Dairy Queen! Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough FTW!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 It is about race. Always has been.So does talking about it make us racists? Of course not. I'm aiming this at those over reactors too quick to call anyone a racist that would dare have an opinion or comment on it. This double standard BS has got to stop.denying racism exists when it does is the first step. we are past this.talking about it endlessly when it still exists quite a bit is the second step. that is where we are.having it rarely come up because racism is mostly gone is the last step. not there yet.to pretend an obama presidecy = minorities can shut up now about racism forevers is silly. Link to post Share on other sites
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