digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2005e.htmlThe Lockout helped. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 yup the year Bettman rigged the ping pong balls to save a franchise... Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 2, 2008 Author Share Posted March 2, 2008 Montreal's picksRound - Pick - Name - Position1 - 5 - Carey Price - G2 - 45 - Guillaume Latendresse - R4 - 121 - Juraj Mikus - D5 - 130 - Mathieu Aubin - C6 - 190 - Matt D'Agostini - R7 - 200 - Sergei Kostitsyn - R7 - 229 - Phillippe Paquet - DI'm really liking that 200th pick. Link to post Share on other sites
Derswick 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Montreal's picksRound - Pick - Name - Position1 - 5 - Carey Price - G2 - 45 - Guillaume Latendresse - R4 - 121 - Juraj Mikus - D5 - 130 - Mathieu Aubin - C6 - 190 - Matt D'Agostini - R7 - 200 - Sergei Kostitsyn - R7 - 229 - Phillippe Paquet - DI'm really liking that 200th pick.That 5th pick aint to bad either! Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Pens had a solid 3rd rounder in Letang that year. Oh, and the 1st rounder was decent as well.Not sure who the other guys are, to be honest. (Gergen, Leinonen, Crowder, Paquet, Vitale) Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Pens had a solid 3rd rounder in Letang that year. Oh, and the 1st rounder was decent as well.Not sure who the other guys are, to be honest. (Gergen, Leinonen, Crowder, Paquet, Vitale)ya, lol, that was exactly my thought process as I went through the Pens' picks... lolol Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 still think the class of 1990 is the best especially the top tenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_NHL_Entry_DraftPick Player Nationality NHL Team College/Junior/Club Team 1 Owen Nolan ® Canada Quebec Nordiques Cornwall Royals (OHL) 2 Petr Nedved (L) Czechoslovakia Vancouver Canucks Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL) 3 Keith Primeau © Canada Detroit Red Wings Niagara Falls Thunder (OHL) 4 Mike Ricci © Canada Philadelphia Flyers Peterborough Petes (OHL) 5 Jaromir Jagr ® Czechoslovakia Pittsburgh Penguins HC Kladno (Czechoslovakia) 6 Scott Scissons © Canada New York Islanders Saskatoon Blades (WHL) 7 Darryl Sydor (D) Canada Los Angeles Kings Kamloops Blazers (WHL) 8 Derian Hatcher (D) United States Minnesota North Stars North Bay Centennials (OHL) 9 John Slaney (D) Canada Washington Capitals Cornwall Royals (OHL) 10 Drake Berehowsky (D) Canada Toronto Maple Leafs Kingston Frontenacs (OHL) Trevor Kidd and Brodeur were also in the 1st roundOther notables Geoff Sanderson 2nd roundDoug Weight 2nd roundMichael Renberg 2nd roundAlexei Zhamnov 4th roundSergei Zubov 5th roundPeter Bondra 8th roundKen Klee 9th round Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 still think the class of 1990 is the best especially the top ten5 Jaromir Jagr ® Czechoslovakia Pittsburgh Penguins HC Kladno (Czechoslovakia) 6 Scott Scissons © Canada New York Islanders Saskatoon Blades (WHL)I never let my friend, a huge Islanders fan, live this one down.The Islanders made the playoffs on the last day of the 89-90 season thanks to a goal by Uwe Krupp, just barely beating out the Pens for the final playoff spot. My friend could not be happier at the time.Months later, thanks to not making the playoffs, the Pens took Jagr. The Islanders took Scott Scissons. Yeah, him.NOTE TO LEAFS FANS. Sometimes not making the playoffs isnt such a bad thing.I agree, this was one of the best draft years. Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Wow at Bondra being an 8th rounder. Link to post Share on other sites
Vertigo 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Fedorov drafted really late in this year?Edit: Nevermind, '89. Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Edit: Wrong topic. Link to post Share on other sites
mcpickl 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2005e.htmlThe Lockout helped.How did the lockout help?Did they change the eligibility rules for the draft? Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 How did the lockout help?Did they change the eligibility rules for the draft?They had 2 years worth of draft eligible kids to choose from. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 They had 2 years worth of draft eligible kids to choose from.that's what I thought at first...but 04 was Ovechkin / Malkin. Am I missing something? Link to post Share on other sites
mcpickl 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 They had 2 years worth of draft eligible kids to choose from.why?they never skipped a draft. the "ovechkin draft" was before the lockout, and lockout was settled before the "crosby draft" Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 why?they never skipped a draft. the "ovechkin draft" was before the lockout, and lockout was settled before the "crosby draft"True, I forgot that. Not much I can think of then that helped the draft itself be so strong except teams maybe could put more energy into scouting and pick better. Link to post Share on other sites
vonteego3 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 the only real effect that the lockout had on the draft was allowing teams... like Pittsburgh... to get 2 draft years based on 1 season. Based on previous season results, you could effectively combine the 2004/2005 drafts as one class, because they were the same rookie class. Link to post Share on other sites
runthemover 39 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 the only real effect that the lockout had on the draft was allowing teams... like Pittsburgh... to get 2 draft years based on 1 season. Based on previous season results, you could effectively combine the 2004/2005 drafts as one class, because they were the same rookie class.I'm kinda confused about what you're trying to say. When you say, "get 2 draft years based on 1 season" it sounds like your saying because you finished poorly in one season you get low picks in two drafts. But, it was four teams with three balls and 10 with two balls. Everyone had a chance. Yes, some had better chances than others but it's nowhere near as close to any normal draft.The rest of your posts just seems to say that their rookies that season were just that much better because of time to develop. Link to post Share on other sites
nell789 0 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 I'm kinda confused about what you're trying to say. When you say, "get 2 draft years based on 1 season" it sounds like your saying because you finished poorly in one season you get low picks in two drafts. But, it was four teams with three balls and 10 with two balls. Everyone had a chance. Yes, some had better chances than others but it's nowhere near as close to any normal draft.The rest of your posts just seems to say that their rookies that season were just that much better because of time to develop.The rookie class in the season immediately following the lockout was extra strong because two draft classes had the opportunity to have their rookie season. I think some people are getting this confused with the draft, which wasn't affected by the lockout outside of the fancy lottery system, at least to my knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 I'm sure this draft will look better over the years and maybe compare more favorably to the 1990 draft, but it'll take time for these guys to develop. I'm sure the 1990 draft didn't look near as great in 1993. Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 I'd say that draft was "ok" for the Cheap Thieves. We had about 7 or 8 picks and got these guys from the 1st RD:2. Bobby Ryan4. Benoit Pouliot7. Jack Skille11.Anze Kopitar23.Nicklas Bergfors24.T.J. Oshie Oshie might end up being the best of the bunch, although I'd have to say that getting Kopitar when I did was the steal of the draft. Got him with the 10th pick in the draft. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 A lot of hockey people will agree that the 1979 draft was the best ever...http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1979e.htmlRob Ramage...Great dman...unfortunately in jail nowMike Foligno...355 career goalsMike Gartner...708 career goalsRick Vaive ---441 career goalsRay BourqueKevin LoweBrian ProppMichel GouletMats NaslundDale HunterMark Messier in the THIRD ROUNDGlenn Anderson 4th ROUNDSome huge names there Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 3, 2008 Author Share Posted March 3, 2008 The draft was only seven rounds in length, compared to nine rounds in years past. The labor dispute caused the shortened draft.This is one reason why I think "the lockout" helped." I think fewer rounds meant more quality. I also think the lockout allowed teams to focus more on scouting than they probably would have if a season had happened. I may be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 3, 2008 Author Share Posted March 3, 2008 And I think if the NHL was really going to rig the lottery Crosby would be a Ranger. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 3, 2008 Author Share Posted March 3, 2008 Wow, I just realized how many d-men I have on the Canadian Gothic from this draft.Marc Staal - NYRMatt Niskanen - DALVladimir Mihalik - TAMBrendan Mikkelson - ANAOskars Bartulis - PHIRay Macias - COLKyle Cumiskey - COL Link to post Share on other sites
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