New Challenge ( Tourney Style )

[PMJackson21 0]

Is shoving 30BBs too much? We also have position, so can we just call?Also, with a 5xBB raise, I don't think villain is folding.Edit: With him raising 5xBB, I probably don't mind shoving anyway. But that's just me. Would it be wrong to shove, know that we would be in a race situation and possibly up against like QQ, KK or even AA?

I wouldn't be shocked if some random who opens to 5x folds to a reshove, and I'd be more inclined to think they had a hand like QQ/JJ/TT then AA or KK (maybe kk, some people hate kk and think an ace always flops), just based on what I've seen over the years. Super tight people that over raise pre usually have a hand they are scared to get outflopped with. With someone that plays like the OP described, a limp or a min raise would worry me more then a 5x open and I would never underestimate their ability to fold anything short of AA/KK to a shove. It's their tournament life at stake!!!!

[armen13 0]

For the AQ hand he had a set of 9's btw. Just wanted to check if my line made sense.

[KHSPoker21 0]

nvm

[ChicagoMike22 0]

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[armen13 0]

This thread sadly in need of a bump. We get spammed (allthough for a good cause) and no one says anything for 2 days?

[mhoward29 0]

Hey guys, I dont ever post in here cuz I dont play tournies but a really good friend of mine (who wants to start posting at fcp but hasnt yet) wrote me with this hand. This is at the noon Venitian deepstack tourney...I have $4700 at the $100-$200 with $25 ante level. I open from the hijack to $500 with JJ, the button who is an active but good player makes it 1k and a tight BB flats the 1k as do I. The flop comes Q28 with two diamonds. it gets checked around. a 6 of spades comes on the turn which puts two flush draws on the board and it gets checked around again. Now the river comes 2d so it goes check, check, button shoves. The tight BB had about the same stack I did and folds so it is back to me I tank and come to the conclusion that I can pretty much only beat a bluff with a hand like 8-9 or 9-10 suited. I realize that I pretty much played my hand face up but I am really curious what you guys think his line is. IMO it could be AA,KK, AK, maybe QQ or 88, and suited conectors 6-7 up to J-10. I almost rule out a duece because A-2s is the only hand I could see and I highly doubt that the way the hand played out. I just think that in this spot my hand is pretty much a bluff catcher. With a faster blind structure I would call here more but I just didnt think I could beat much and the blinds are so slow in this tourney.I dont like the way he played it but I already gave him my advice on it. Just wanted to see if you all would reply and I will link him to this thread. He has an account, BB2844. Thanks

[Gallo 1]

Hey guys, I dont ever post in here cuz I dont play tournies but a really good friend of mine (who wants to start posting at fcp but hasnt yet) wrote me with this hand. This is at the noon Venitian deepstack tourney...I have $4700 at the $100-$200 with $25 ante level. I open from the hijack to $500 with JJ, the button who is an active but good player makes it 1k and a tight BB flats the 1k as do I. The flop comes Q28 with two diamonds. it gets checked around. a 6 of spades comes on the turn which puts two flush draws on the board and it gets checked around again. Now the river comes 2d so it goes check, check, button shoves. The tight BB had about the same stack I did and folds so it is back to me I tank and come to the conclusion that I can pretty much only beat a bluff with a hand like 8-9 or 9-10 suited. I realize that I pretty much played my hand face up but I am really curious what you guys think his line is. IMO it could be AA,KK, AK, maybe QQ or 88, and suited conectors 6-7 up to J-10. I almost rule out a duece because A-2s is the only hand I could see and I highly doubt that the way the hand played out. I just think that in this spot my hand is pretty much a bluff catcher. With a faster blind structure I would call here more but I just didnt think I could beat much and the blinds are so slow in this tourney.I dont like the way he played it but I already gave him my advice on it. Just wanted to see if you all would reply and I will link him to this thread. He has an account, BB2844. Thanks

I don't think we can ever just call here. We should either be shoving or folding preflop. It makes decisions that much easier.

[no not baxter 0]

This man hasn't played a pot in ages. Surely we can only be racing or dominated correct? But calucating in stacks sizes and whatnot, what do we do here?PokerStars Game #24245736529: Tournament #134682101, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2009/01/24 21:44:08 ETTable '134682101 101' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: eckowezen (29981 in chips) Seat 2: Ihaz2cardz (12155 in chips) Seat 3: xTomServoX (18280 in chips) Seat 4: CashrusH (19122 in chips) Seat 5: bktfggxdr (7899 in chips) Seat 6: kidfromokc_1 (27385 in chips) Seat 7: BEERHIKER (18240 in chips) Seat 8: chubbybubby (9114 in chips) Seat 9: CCCP_RUS (16426 in chips) eckowezen: posts the ante 50Ihaz2cardz: posts the ante 50xTomServoX: posts the ante 50CashrusH: posts the ante 50bktfggxdr: posts the ante 50kidfromokc_1: posts the ante 50BEERHIKER: posts the ante 50chubbybubby: posts the ante 50CCCP_RUS: posts the ante 50CashrusH: posts small blind 300bktfggxdr: posts big blind 600*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to xTomServoX [Kh Ac]kidfromokc_1: folds BEERHIKER: raises 2400 to 3000chubbybubby: folds CCCP_RUS: folds eckowezen: folds Ihaz2cardz: folds xTomServoX:

shove > fold > flat imo

Hey guys, I dont ever post in here cuz I dont play tournies but a really good friend of mine (who wants to start posting at fcp but hasnt yet) wrote me with this hand. This is at the noon Venitian deepstack tourney...I have $4700 at the $100-$200 with $25 ante level. I open from the hijack to $500 with JJ, the button who is an active but good player makes it 1k and a tight BB flats the 1k as do I. The flop comes Q28 with two diamonds. it gets checked around. a 6 of spades comes on the turn which puts two flush draws on the board and it gets checked around again. Now the river comes 2d so it goes check, check, button shoves. The tight BB had about the same stack I did and folds so it is back to me I tank and come to the conclusion that I can pretty much only beat a bluff with a hand like 8-9 or 9-10 suited. I realize that I pretty much played my hand face up but I am really curious what you guys think his line is. IMO it could be AA,KK, AK, maybe QQ or 88, and suited conectors 6-7 up to J-10. I almost rule out a duece because A-2s is the only hand I could see and I highly doubt that the way the hand played out. I just think that in this spot my hand is pretty much a bluff catcher. With a faster blind structure I would call here more but I just didnt think I could beat much and the blinds are so slow in this tourney.I dont like the way he played it but I already gave him my advice on it. Just wanted to see if you all would reply and I will link him to this thread. He has an account, BB2844. Thanks

You need to think of the hand like a story...if the dude is making it 1k after u make it 500 with 4700 effective stacks (would be nice to know his stack tho) than idk if 89suited is in his range and if you think it is then why would we ever do anything but shove pf? soo basically you need to think about his range on all streets and narrow it down, cuz i mean idk how this dude is playing, if his range is any decent wide than im shoving pre but if its tight and u think this minraise is like always KK+ than i guess u can setmine....knowing how the hand played out i doubt it is ever KK+ cuz idk who would check back 2 streets like that

[BeaverStyle 1]

Hey guys, I dont ever post in here cuz I dont play tournies but a really good friend of mine (who wants to start posting at fcp but hasnt yet) wrote me with this hand. This is at the noon Venitian deepstack tourney...I have $4700 at the $100-$200 with $25 ante level. I open from the hijack to $500 with JJ, the button who is an active but good player makes it 1k and a tight BB flats the 1k as do I. The flop comes Q28 with two diamonds. it gets checked around. a 6 of spades comes on the turn which puts two flush draws on the board and it gets checked around again. Now the river comes 2d so it goes check, check, button shoves. The tight BB had about the same stack I did and folds so it is back to me I tank and come to the conclusion that I can pretty much only beat a bluff with a hand like 8-9 or 9-10 suited. I realize that I pretty much played my hand face up but I am really curious what you guys think his line is. IMO it could be AA,KK, AK, maybe QQ or 88, and suited conectors 6-7 up to J-10. I almost rule out a duece because A-2s is the only hand I could see and I highly doubt that the way the hand played out. I just think that in this spot my hand is pretty much a bluff catcher. With a faster blind structure I would call here more but I just didnt think I could beat much and the blinds are so slow in this tourney.I dont like the way he played it but I already gave him my advice on it. Just wanted to see if you all would reply and I will link him to this thread. He has an account, BB2844. Thanks

I hate the flat-call of the 3-bet preflop. Push or fold, and I push w/ the raise coming from what sounds to be a competent "active player" who could be doing this w/ mid-pairs, high paint, etc... I don't see how we can fold JJ pre w/ this stack in this situation. ARRRRRR INNNNN BABY. And fwiw, I don't think any player played this hand well that was involved... WTF kind of line is checking behind twice, and pushing the river? As played, I probably call and get pissed when he flips 22.

[no not baxter 0]

I hate the flat-call of the 3-bet preflop. Push or fold, and I push w/ the raise coming from what sounds to be a competent "active player" who could be doing this w/ mid-pairs, high paint, etc... I don't see how we can fold JJ pre w/ this stack in this situation. ARRRRRR INNNNN BABY. And fwiw, I don't think any player played this hand well that was involved... WTF kind of line is checking behind twice, and pushing the river? As played, I probably call and get pissed when he flips 22.

qtf cept i fold river barring live tells!

[Gallo 1]

I hate the flat-call of the 3-bet preflop. Push or fold, and I push w/ the raise coming from what sounds to be a competent "active player" who could be doing this w/ mid-pairs, high paint, etc... I don't see how we can fold JJ pre w/ this stack in this situation. ARRRRRR INNNNN BABY. And fwiw, I don't think any player played this hand well that was involved... WTF kind of line is checking behind twice, and pushing the river? As played, I probably call and get pissed when he flips 22.

A live donk player. Alot of live players tend to do this. There are a lot of different plays that live players make that don't happen that often online.There was one play that I remember playing at the casino. Me and another player check the flop, he checks the turn, I bet out and he minraises me. I was like wtf? So I just called. Then he checks the river, I had trips, I bet thinking I'm good, he then min raises. WTF?!? i reluctantly called, he showed a flush. He had a flush draw on the turn that he min raised me after I caught trips.

[silkyjonson 1]

The JJ hand I'm shoving pre most of the time, as played I'm betting turn most of the time and I'm going to sweat the **** out of button and look him up if I can get a weak read. This line is pretty spazztastic, and my experience is live with non competent players this is a bluff a decent amount of the time with something like an AK, and usually value bets are betting a little less.

[BB2844 0]

The JJ hand I'm shoving pre most of the time, as played I'm betting turn most of the time and I'm going to sweat the **** out of button and look him up if I can get a weak read. This line is pretty spazztastic, and my experience is live with non competent players this is a bluff a decent amount of the time with something like an AK, and usually value bets are betting a little less.

Thank you for all the comments. I am mhoward29s friend that posted the hand on Poker Road. I have a few unanswered questions the first being what do you think the tight BB has? Why do you think this guy min raised out of character? Looking back it looks pretty clear I am beating all of the BB range besides maybe QQ and the buttons range is just to wide I would like a shove alot more if I only had 12-17BB but it does make since.

[TeeSludge 0]

Posted this on 2p2 and the Borgata open thread but wanted to put it in here and see what you guys think...Day 2 of Borgata 3k main event. We are only about 30 minutes in to the day and I have the image of a crazy insane young kid. So far I've opened pretty much every chance I've had with little resistance and 3bet from the blinds twice successfully. I started the day with 93k got up to 120k but a lost a decent size pot about 5 hands prior to the hand in question.We are nine handed. Hijack is a young kid who had opened a few times prior to this and seemed to be an online/2p2 type. I'd assume his opening range is pretty wide in this spot. He and I have not played a hand against one another yet. BB is Mark Seif who just moved to the table recently. I'm in the SB.HJ: 67kHero: (SB) 91k BB: 170k Dealt to Hero: Ah Qc Blinds 500/1k/100Folds to HJ, he raises to 2900, Hero calls, BB callsPot: 9600Flop: As 6s 2Hero checks, BB checks, HJ bets 5.2k, Hero raises to 16.2k, BB folds, HJ calls 11kPot: 42000Turn 7sHero?HJ has 48.7k left. He took about 20 seconds before calling on the flop.

[Gallo 1]

Posted this on 2p2 and the Borgata open thread but wanted to put it in here and see what you guys think...Day 2 of Borgata 3k main event. We are only about 30 minutes in to the day and I have the image of a crazy insane young kid. So far I've opened pretty much every chance I've had with little resistance and 3bet from the blinds twice successfully. I started the day with 93k got up to 120k but a lost a decent size pot about 5 hands prior to the hand in question.We are nine handed. Hijack is a young kid who had opened a few times prior to this and seemed to be an online/2p2 type. I'd assume his opening range is pretty wide in this spot. He and I have not played a hand against one another yet. BB is Mark Seif who just moved to the table recently. I'm in the SB.HJ: 67kHero: (SB) 91k BB: 170k Dealt to Hero: Ah Qc Blinds 500/1k/100Folds to HJ, he raises to 2900, Hero calls, BB callsPot: 9600Flop: As 6s 2Hero checks, BB checks, HJ bets 5.2k, Hero raises to 16.2k, BB folds, HJ calls 11kPot: 42000Turn 7sHero?HJ has 48.7k left. He took about 20 seconds before calling on the flop.

This would probably be one of those times you could've r/r PF, imo.

[mase_gotsem 0]

hes fairly tight only been on this tble for under 20 hands to light to call ?PokerStars Game #24416903217: Tournament #136340905, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2009/01/29 23:49:42 ETTable '136340905 26' 9-max Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: therickbol (160224 in chips) Seat 3: mase_gotsem (205078 in chips) Seat 4: OTT CANADA (101532 in chips) Seat 5: ipreferquadA (110547 in chips) Seat 6: sommerfelt (29834 in chips) Seat 7: HOTTODDY 710 (38339 in chips) Seat 8: JoNasBadr (46838 in chips) Seat 9: lisabc (257605 in chips) therickbol: posts the ante 400mase_gotsem: posts the ante 400OTT CANADA: posts the ante 400ipreferquadA: posts the ante 400sommerfelt: posts the ante 400HOTTODDY 710: posts the ante 400JoNasBadr: posts the ante 400lisabc: posts the ante 400therickbol: posts small blind 2000mase_gotsem: posts big blind 4000*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to mase_gotsem [Kd Ts]OTT CANADA: folds ipreferquadA: folds sommerfelt: raises 25434 to 29434 and is all-inHOTTODDY 710: folds JoNasBadr: folds lisabc: folds therickbol: folds mase_gotsem:??

[jkalib 0]

Call. His range has to be really wide.

[IQCrash 1]

Getting my ass handed to me ridiculous style today, and since I'm not usually a tourney player, thought I'd ask here - is this the right play with all the dead money/mystack/position?PokerStars Game #24417278977: Tournament #137330955, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/01/29 21:07:13 PT [2009/01/30 0:07:13 ET]Table '137330955 13' 9-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: ELW6345 (465 in chips) Seat 2: IQCrash (2125 in chips) Seat 3: ziady (2660 in chips) Seat 4: dumbhand (1970 in chips) Seat 5: Athanasios 9 (2635 in chips) Seat 6: sprakeleg (1425 in chips) Seat 7: BMO1964 (1805 in chips) Seat 8: Opa Duke (1755 in chips) Seat 9: jahansen40 (1470 in chips) ziady: posts small blind 75dumbhand: posts big blind 150*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to IQCrash [7c 7h]Athanasios 9: folds sprakeleg: calls 150BMO1964: calls 150Opa Duke: folds jahansen40: folds ELW6345: raises 315 to 465 and is all-inIQCrash: raises 1660 to 2125 and is all-inziady: folds dumbhand: folds sprakeleg: folds BMO1964: calls 1655 and is all-inUncalled bet (320) returned to IQCrash*** FLOP *** [Jc 6c 2c]*** TURN *** [Jc 6c 2c] [9h]*** RIVER *** [Jc 6c 2c 9h] [Qh]*** SHOW DOWN ***BMO1964: shows [8h 8c] (a pair of Eights)IQCrash: shows [7c 7h] (a pair of Sevens)BMO1964 collected 2680 from side potELW6345: shows [Kh 8d] (high card King)BMO1964 collected 1770 from main pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 4450 Main pot 1770. Side pot 2680. | Rake 0 Board [Jc 6c 2c 9h Qh]Seat 1: ELW6345 showed [Kh 8d] and lost with high card KingSeat 2: IQCrash (button) showed [7c 7h] and lost with a pair of SevensSeat 3: ziady (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 4: dumbhand (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: Athanasios 9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: sprakeleg folded before FlopSeat 7: BMO1964 showed [8h 8c] and won (4450) with a pair of EightsSeat 8: Opa Duke folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: jahansen40 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[CBass1724 1]

Check out this gem. LFT.Full Tilt Poker Game #10330242679: $28,000 Guarantee (78045419), Table 32 - 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:22:43 ET - 2009/01/30Seat 1: William Hun (11,505)Seat 2: OutKasts (10,113)Seat 3: JamalJohnson86 (16,965)Seat 4: CBass1724 (9,625)Seat 5: MALO001 (25,832)Seat 6: alhang3 (25,052)Seat 7: felipebball (25,052)Seat 8: 77gambler77 (8,349)Seat 9: ohdoki (19,960)William Hun antes 50OutKasts antes 50JamalJohnson86 antes 50CBass1724 antes 50MALO001 antes 50alhang3 antes 50felipebball antes 5077gambler77 antes 50ohdoki antes 50MALO001 posts the small blind of 200alhang3 posts the big blind of 400The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to CBass1724 [Qc Qh]felipebball folds77gambler77 foldsohdoki foldsWilliam Hun foldsOutKasts raises to 999JamalJohnson86 has 15 seconds left to actJamalJohnson86 foldsCBass1724 has 15 seconds left to actCBass1724 raises to 3,600MALO001 foldsalhang3 foldsOutKasts raises to 10,063, and is all inCBass1724 calls 5,975, and is all inOutKasts shows [6d 5d]CBass1724 shows [Qc Qh]Uncalled bet of 488 returned to OutKasts*** FLOP *** [4c Kh 7s]*** TURN *** [4c Kh 7s] [6s]*** RIVER *** [4c Kh 7s 6s] [8d]OutKasts shows a straight, Eight highCBass1724 shows a pair of QueensOutKasts wins the pot (20,200) with a straight, Eight highCBass1724 stands up*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 20,200 | Rake 0Board: [4c Kh 7s 6s 8d]Seat 1: William Hun folded before the FlopSeat 2: OutKasts showed [6d 5d] and won (20,200) with a straight, Eight highSeat 3: JamalJohnson86 folded before the FlopSeat 4: CBass1724 (button) showed [Qc Qh] and lost with a pair of QueensSeat 5: MALO001 (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 6: alhang3 (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 7: felipebball folded before the FlopSeat 8: 77gambler77 folded before the FlopSeat 9: ohdoki folded before the Flop

[The Phoenix 0]

hes fairly tight only been on this tble for under 20 hands to light to call ?PokerStars Game #24416903217: Tournament #136340905, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2009/01/29 23:49:42 ETTable '136340905 26' 9-max Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: therickbol (160224 in chips) Seat 3: mase_gotsem (205078 in chips) Seat 4: OTT CANADA (101532 in chips) Seat 5: ipreferquadA (110547 in chips) Seat 6: sommerfelt (29834 in chips) Seat 7: HOTTODDY 710 (38339 in chips) Seat 8: JoNasBadr (46838 in chips) Seat 9: lisabc (257605 in chips) therickbol: posts the ante 400mase_gotsem: posts the ante 400OTT CANADA: posts the ante 400ipreferquadA: posts the ante 400sommerfelt: posts the ante 400HOTTODDY 710: posts the ante 400JoNasBadr: posts the ante 400lisabc: posts the ante 400therickbol: posts small blind 2000mase_gotsem: posts big blind 4000*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to mase_gotsem [Kd Ts]OTT CANADA: folds ipreferquadA: folds sommerfelt: raises 25434 to 29434 and is all-inHOTTODDY 710: folds JoNasBadr: folds lisabc: folds therickbol: folds mase_gotsem:??

You are getting 1.5 to 1. He needs to be shoving ~20% of hands to make this a profitable call. With his M and the size of the blinds antes he should definitely be shoving wider than 20% but at lower stakes they rarely are. If he was competent I call, with no reads (leaning to tight image) I lean toward folding. Other factors would be are we near the bubble? Clear fold. Has the bubble burst? Calling looks better.

[Gallo 1]

hes fairly tight only been on this tble for under 20 hands to light to call ?HH

Meh, I'd probably fold. I really hate K10 and not sure if it plays well against what he is shoving in that position.I could be wrong, but I would fold.

Getting my ass handed to me ridiculous style today, and since I'm not usually a tourney player, thought I'd ask here - is this the right play with all the dead money/mystack/position?HH

The play is fine, but what do I know, I told you you should shove with tens.

Check out this gem. LFT.HH

loooooooolDoes he think you're ever folding? lol

[armen13 0]

Posted this on 2p2 and the Borgata open thread but wanted to put it in here and see what you guys think...Day 2 of Borgata 3k main event. We are only about 30 minutes in to the day and I have the image of a crazy insane young kid. So far I've opened pretty much every chance I've had with little resistance and 3bet from the blinds twice successfully. I started the day with 93k got up to 120k but a lost a decent size pot about 5 hands prior to the hand in question.We are nine handed. Hijack is a young kid who had opened a few times prior to this and seemed to be an online/2p2 type. I'd assume his opening range is pretty wide in this spot. He and I have not played a hand against one another yet. BB is Mark Seif who just moved to the table recently. I'm in the SB.HJ: 67kHero: (SB) 91k BB: 170k Dealt to Hero: Ah Qc Blinds 500/1k/100Folds to HJ, he raises to 2900, Hero calls, BB callsPot: 9600Flop: As 6s 2Hero checks, BB checks, HJ bets 5.2k, Hero raises to 16.2k, BB folds, HJ calls 11kPot: 42000Turn 7sHero?HJ has 48.7k left. He took about 20 seconds before calling on the flop.

I read the 2+2 posts.....Pre I think you could go both ways but I think you are deep enough that calling is good pot controlagree with Mlagoo for the rest. C/R flop bloats pot and can lead to several puke spots like this one. C/F turn is ok I think.By the way, I see unknowns, or at least people I don't know, commenting on HSMTT threads more and more... what's up with that?

[Vtlaxer09 4]

Full Tilt Poker Game #10362582684: $75,000 Guarantee (76320190), Table 71 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:28:58 ET - 2009/01/31Seat 1: vtlaxer09 (7,330)Seat 2: monaco69 (3,835)Seat 3: Louise Hansson (3,260)Seat 4: candl143637 (6,695)Seat 5: underpar44 (5,795)Seat 6: REloader1 (6,226)Seat 7: Z-ON_TILT-B (2,520)Seat 8: cwm1981 (4,198)Seat 9: Paulharvey03 (6,935)Z-ON_TILT-B posts the small blind of 50cwm1981 posts the big blind of 100The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to vtlaxer09 [Qh Qd]Paulharvey03 foldsvtlaxer09 has 15 seconds left to actvtlaxer09 raises to 300monaco69 foldsLouise Hansson foldscandl143637 has 15 seconds left to actcandl143637 calls 300underpar44 calls 300REloader1 foldsZ-ON_TILT-B foldscwm1981 calls 200*** FLOP *** [7h 5d 7s]cwm1981 checksvtlaxer09 has 15 seconds left to actvtlaxer09 bets 700candl143637 calls 700underpar44 foldscwm1981 calls 700*** TURN *** [7h 5d 7s] [6s]cwm1981 checksvtlaxer09 checkscandl143637 bets 1,900cwm1981 has 15 seconds left to actcwm1981 foldsvtlaxer09 cant really say much about villain.. he had hardly been involved at all.. and I hadnt seen any showdowns from him in the 20 or so harnds he'd been at the table. cwm had been pretty straightforward as well.

[armen13 0]

many lol plays have been happening at table.PokerStars Game #24505959864: Tournament #135875477, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (100/200) - 2009/02/01 17:03:56 ETTable '135875477 842' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: sharkgus (9075 in chips) Seat 2: kvista (9225 in chips) Seat 3: mrcl921 (11350 in chips) Seat 4: mc_adi (10275 in chips) Seat 5: armen13 (13875 in chips) Seat 6: PMJackson21 (10725 in chips) Seat 7: geirjac (12400 in chips) Seat 8: flyinsquizz (13650 in chips) Seat 9: stix69er (4725 in chips) mc_adi: posts small blind 100armen13: posts big blind 200*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to armen13 [9d 9c]PMJackson21: folds geirjac: raises 400 to 600flyinsquizz: folds stix69er: folds sharkgus: folds kvista: folds mrcl921: folds mc_adi: calls 500armen13: calls 400*** FLOP *** [9s Qd Kc]mc_adi: checks armen13: checks geirjac: bets 600mc_adi: folds armen13: raises 1200 to 1800geirjac: calls 1200*** TURN *** [9s Qd Kc] [Ts]armen13: checks geirjac: bets 600armen13: calls 600*** RIVER *** [9s Qd Kc Ts] [5s]armen13: checks geirjac: bets 1600can I fold here?

[CoolHandPuke 0]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10+$1 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comCO (t3430)SB (t4495)BB (t3340)UTG (t690)Hero (MP) (t3250)Hero's M: 72.22Preflop: Hero is MP with 8, 82 folds, Hero raises to t90, CO calls t90, 1 fold, SB calls t75, 1 foldFlop: (t300) 9, 5, 10(3 players)SB checks, Hero ????Against your average donk players early in a MTT, are we c-betting here most of the time and if so how much? Also, is the pre-flop raise OK or should I just limp in here this early? I find these situations early on to be a tough spot for me and just wondering how some regular tourney players play these spots.