HangukMiguk 8 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 if i remember right, the prelim rounds in the WSOP were best of 1 until the final, which rekrul swept.while i understand the bad lines bodog had up before, now i think rekrul's getting good odds to have value on a win. Link to post Share on other sites
bull62 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I bet Vanessa Rousso is pissed that she's got the same odds as Jason Alexander. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I bet Jason Alexander is pissed that he's got the same odds as Vanessa Rousso.fyp Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 The best ones are fischman, edler and gavin smith.worst ones are the top 5 picks. nobody is close to 25:1 to win this imo.edit: oh shit, the new lines all killed my choices. i guess whoever adjusted them agrees. Link to post Share on other sites
a__thekevlar__2 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 The best ones are fischman, edler and gavin smith.worst ones are the top 5 picks. nobody is close to 25:1 to win this imo.edit: oh shit, the new lines all killed my choices. i guess whoever adjusted them agrees.EXCEPT FOR ME Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 fypI'm actually considering putting a bet on Rousso. I know a lot of people find her annoying, but she's decent enough that it's plausible she could win. Link to post Share on other sites
FileError404 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 So Jerry Yang has the same odds as Bill Edler? Who set that line? Must be really an insider... Link to post Share on other sites
conor_mw 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 brad garrett FTW Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 SHIP IT TO OREL ONE TIME!!! Link to post Share on other sites
CBrownOSU04 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 i just got done playing a 6 person table with jonathan little little on fulltilt and he was on my left, i limped everytime from the small blind and he would just shove everytime, so i finally get pocket 8's, and he shoves again after my limp, i call and he shows 69 of spades and mine holds. Now you might ask yourself if the blinds warranted shoving...well he was shoving 1300-1500 with the blinds at 25/50...maybe drunk? i know the $200 buy in meant nothing to him but shit Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 i just got done playing a 6 person table with jonathan little little on fulltilt and he was on my left, i limped everytime from the small blind and he would just shove everytime, so i finally get pocket 8's, and he shoves again after my limp, i call and he shows 69 of spades and mine holds. Now you might ask yourself if the blinds warranted shoving...well he was shoving 1300-1500 with the blinds at 25/50...maybe drunk? i know the $200 buy in meant nothing to him but shitHe is clearly a sit&go fish. Link to post Share on other sites
freak2304 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I think if you're going to place a bet on one of the celebs w/ great odds, you should go with Don Cheadle. He at least knows he can't outplay the pro's, and uses a good amateur vs pro strategy. I thought he played ideal against Ivey (last year, i think) if you take each of their skill sets into consideration. Just a thought.... Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Looks like Antonio at 65/1 is the best bet left on the board after the changes. Link to post Share on other sites
Vick12 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Looks like Antonio at 65/1 is the best bet left on the board after the changes.And u are who exactly????? Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 i just got done playing a 6 person table with jonathan little little on fulltilt and he was on my left, i limped everytime from the small blind and he would just shove everytime, so i finally get pocket 8's, and he shoves again after my limp, i call and he shows 69 of spades and mine holds. Now you might ask yourself if the blinds warranted shoving...well he was shoving 1300-1500 with the blinds at 25/50...maybe drunk? i know the $200 buy in meant nothing to him but shityou're 25 blinds deep, limping 100% of your hands, and he's shoving 100%.if 88 is the bottom end of your range, he is owning you because your range would be roughly 8%. it means 92% of the time he wins 2 big blinds uncontested and 8% of the time you have 69% equity of 50 blinds - 25.overall you show a loss of (1.82 - 0.76) = 1.06 big blindsin order to even break even against his shoves, you need to call with about 25% of your range. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 you're 25 blinds deep, limping 100% of your hands, and he's shoving 100%.if 88 is the bottom end of your range, he is owning you because your range would be roughly 8%. it means 92% of the time he wins 2 big blinds uncontested and 8% of the time you have 69% equity of 50 blinds - 25.overall you show a loss of (1.82 - 0.76) = 1.06 big blindsin order to even break even against his shoves, you need to call with about 25% of your range.That's interesting and all except he never said 88 was at the bottom of his range or even remotely implied it. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I'm assuming I'm the only one riding the Rousso cash train? Link to post Share on other sites
a__thekevlar__2 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I'm assuming I'm the only one riding the Rousso cash train?by this you mean you are her pimp? i dont see any other way Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I'm assuming I'm the only one riding the Rousso cash train?Like I said...seriously considering it. Sell me on it. Link to post Share on other sites
oldmangrimis 0 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 thanks for the HU on the HU odds, got a couple of one in. Is there any other good one left I was thinking Antonio Esfandiari 60/1? ,Kenny Tran 55/1, Michael Mizrachi 65/1, Howard Lederer 55/1 maybe Gabe Kaplan, I read some where that he challenged Bobby Baldwin to $200,000 freeze-outsand won Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I'm assuming I'm the only one riding the Rousso cash train?Gave in and got her at 90/1 (she's back to 80/1 now). Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Gave in and got her at 90/1 (she's back to 80/1 now).Wheeeeeeee. Equity.(though sad that she got matched with Antonio and knocked him out) Link to post Share on other sites
RuntCake 0 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Singer and Edler FTW. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 That's interesting and all except he never said 88 was at the bottom of his range or even remotely implied it.the tone of his post suggests that he is calling way less than 25% of his hands. it doesnt matter though, because the idea of Little pushing with 100% or that he's limping 100% is just stupid because they obviously arent.it's just a simple demonstration of why it isnt that zomg-awful to just be shoving every time if he's limp/folding so often. it's still obviously not the best idea, since he can easily do better by just checking and taking a flop where he'd do even better than whatever minuscule amounts he averages by shoving with his entire range.but he isnt playing seriously either. he's just trying to stick it in and speed that shit up, because the money is completely trivial to him. Link to post Share on other sites
a__thekevlar__2 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 johnathan little ONE TIME?last guy left to make us the money ballzat least, "a male will win" came through? Link to post Share on other sites
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