albasuna 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 In memory of my recent donkage of my whole roll which was about 2 weeks ago I would like for all to share your most memorable donk days, plays, suckouts, etc.... Don't be shy we were all one of them at one point. The thing is though I'm still one of them.My favorite donk moment was during one of the Sunday 100k were I aggro-donked all in on an Ace High flop w/ the Doyle (10-2) dude had Ax but I runner runnered a flush... My worst memory of many donkelicious plays has to be my tilt shove for my whole roll w/ bottom pair running into a set of Kings. Even worse was my tilt shove of my monitor off the desk. Boy do I love being a donkey. Oh and is min-raising for donkeys? just a question. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbywithani 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Oh and is min-raising for donkeys? just a question.In theory, yes it is a donkey play, but if you happen to be at a table vs. someone who will view a min-raise as a donkey play then you can use it to your advantage. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I'm still a donk, so basically every move I make can be considered a donk play. Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I am still a donk but the tourney that sticks out to me happened shortly after I started playing poker. It was when PS first introduced deepstack tourneys and they only had 1 $33 a week. After about 9 hours and making my first cash ever I was getting real tired and real reckless. I just kept raising everyone and going all in on flops if called preflop. Well it worked as everyone kept folding and I ended up chopping it for 5k after about 12 hours. Link to post Share on other sites
Cappy37 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Mine is easy.. I was 4 tabling, and had an O8B MTT on one of my screens. I played for about 45 minutes, folding mostly with crap cards. Finally I got A23K and went nuts raising every street of a 47K8K board. Opponent flipped over KQQ4 for a boat and i got the "You lost, muck cards?" pop up and I went livid.. I was screaming at the screen about software malfunctions and bs and blah blah blah.. Then i finally looked at the top of the screen, where it said "Limit Omaha blinds 50/100".:icon_doh:I had played almost a full hour of Limit Omaha Hi only thinking I was playing O8B.. This is why I'm 0/1 in my MTT career in Omaha hi.. blarg. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I only have to think back to a couple hours ago. Sigh....still a donk. Link to post Share on other sites
Steamed Rice 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 About the 3rd time I played live poker I called 2 all ins with 76cc. I don't know how I justified doing it but I ended up winning the hand. Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I dont have any memories that stand out as being super donkey but I remember after the first time I played poker with my family when i was just finished grade 10 I went home and tried to devise a preflop strategy for myself. My strategy to "play tight" was to only play pairs and non pairs that added up to 15 or more given that an A is 13, K is 12 etc. regardless of action in front of me and what position I had. Its silly to think of now but this was really the first step of me analyzing my game to a point where I became a decent player. Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Not really a donk story but...My very first freeroll tournament was about 3 years ago on Paradise poker. The freerolls were quite popular at the time, so you had to register about 2 hours before the actual event took place if you wanted to play before the seats were filled.So I registered and was obviously very excited for the thing to start. On the first hand I'm in MP and I get dealt TT. Someone raises from early position (5-10xBB) and I smooth call the sucker. Some other donk calls and the three of us see a flop of 10KJ. The first guy moves allin, I autocall, and the guy behind me calls. They flip over and I see I'm in last place.EP raiser has AQ for str8 and late position caller has JJ for an over set, who then goes on to win when another K hits the board...First tournament hand I ever played. I don't know why I thought it would get any better...Obvious fold preflop now:) Link to post Share on other sites
Czech Razor 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I ran what I thought was a pretty good bluff considering we were both deep stacked with around 200 BB's apiece in a 2/3 NL game on Bodog. Guy to my right makes the standard raise to $11 and I re-pop to $33 with 9d10d on the button. He smooth calls and the flop is Ac 3c 7c ... not a fan but I'm not done with the pot yet. He checks and I bet $60 into a $71 pot. He calls and I would normally be done with the hand but another Ace falls on the turn. This time he leads out for $40 and I'm pretty sure he's leading with like 10's or JJ, not with an Ace. I re-pop to $110 and he takes the full time bank amount but finally calls. The river is another 7, making the final board read Ac 3c 7c Ah 7d.He takes a bit of time before checking, and I bet half the pot to make it look like I had AQ or AK this whole time and am now value betting the full house. He takes a lot of time again and calls with ... 5c6c.He smooth called another $22 out of position and then called a little over $200 on a double paired board with a baby flush. At first I thought maybe I played it out like s*** but I realized I pretty much represented an ace properly the entire way. Then I noticed the little player notes icon and double clicked it: Don't bluff. Doesn't fold anything. aeljkfnsdofdsohdsovgfvoushosalojfndsofjvnsoGood job, me. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Well, I don't think of myself as a donk, usually, but I keep getting screwed by you ****ers because you dont understand pot odds, hand %'s or position.partial sw Link to post Share on other sites
gfdsa146 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 PokerStars Game #9332188809: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2007/04/09 - 10:38:11 (ET)Table 'Deimos' 9-max Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: MaxQKlinger ($4.75 in chips) Seat 2: Benicio333 ($9.35 in chips) Seat 3: shwantheman ($9.90 in chips) Seat 4: jefmeister ($9.90 in chips) Seat 5: shortcct ($4.20 in chips) Seat 6: t10lena ($1.60 in chips) Seat 8: michalon2 ($7.05 in chips) Seat 9: gfdsa146 ($5.55 in chips) MaxQKlinger: posts small blind $0.05Benicio333: posts big blind $0.10Shibear: sits out *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to gfdsa146 [9c Js]shwantheman: folds jefmeister: calls $0.10shortcct: folds t10lena: folds michalon2: calls $0.10gfdsa146: calls $0.10MaxQKlinger: calls $0.05Benicio333: checks *** FLOP *** [5c Ah Jd]MaxQKlinger: checks Benicio333: checks jefmeister: bets $0.20michalon2: calls $0.20gfdsa146: calls $0.20MaxQKlinger: folds Benicio333: folds *** TURN *** [5c Ah Jd] [Jc]jefmeister: checks michalon2: bets $0.40gfdsa146: calls $0.40jefmeister: calls $0.40 *** RIVER *** [5c Ah Jd Jc] [Jh]jefmeister: bets $6.35michalon2: calls $6.35 and is all-ingfdsa146: calls $4.85 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***jefmeister: shows [Ac Ad] (a full house, Aces full of Jacks) michalon2: mucks hand gfdsa146 said, "lol"jefmeister collected $2.85 from side potgfdsa146: shows [9c Js] (four of a kind, Jacks)gfdsa146 said, "wtf?"gfdsa146 collected $16.05 from main pot *** SUMMARY ***Total pot $19.85 Main pot $16.05. Side pot $2.85. | Rake $0.95 Board [5c Ah Jd Jc Jh]Seat 1: MaxQKlinger (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 2: Benicio333 (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 3: shwantheman folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: jefmeister showed [Ac Ad] and won ($2.85) with a full house, Aces full of JacksSeat 5: shortcct folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: t10lena folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: michalon2 mucked [9d As]Seat 9: gfdsa146 (button) showed [9c Js] and won ($16.05) with four of a kind, Jacks bALLa, sHOt cALLa! Link to post Share on other sites
Don Giovanni 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 i dont get why everyone thinks that everyone started out as a losing player or a donk at some point. Link to post Share on other sites
Czech Razor 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 i dont get why everyone thinks that everyone started out as a losing player or a donk at some point.Huh ... Ok. Maybe you still are? Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I remember when I was a donk a month and a half ago and thought full ring was the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites
albasuna 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Author Share Posted October 14, 2007 I dont have any memories that stand out as being super donkey but I remember after the first time I played poker with my family when i was just finished grade 10 I went home and tried to devise a preflop strategy for myself. My strategy to "play tight" was to only play pairs and non pairs that added up to 15 or more given that an A is 13, K is 12 etc. regardless of action in front of me and what position I had. Its silly to think of now but this was really the first step of me analyzing my game to a point where I became a decent player.lol i liked this story reminds me when i was the same age and would play every hand. but we would play a 25 cent ante game and i thought a minraise was so huge considering i had like 10 bucks to play with, those were the days. also i was so n00bed that sometimes when i get board and im the dealer i would shuffle the deck while a hand was in progress. what i hate most is when people deal and they automatically burn the next card in advance before the action was even complete. Link to post Share on other sites
Tugglife2 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 PokerStars Game #12624802413: Tournament #64075885, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/10/14 - 14:57:35 (ET)Table '64075885 17' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: kimhelton67 (1620 in chips) Seat 2: forzagrifone (1370 in chips) Seat 3: rex2732 (1460 in chips) Seat 4: ajpowel (1480 in chips) Seat 5: dragi122 (1500 in chips) Seat 6: poemoekel (1420 in chips) Seat 7: mags125 (1500 in chips) Seat 8: CaneKid07 (1650 in chips) Seat 9: LUCKYLUK22 (1500 in chips) ajpowel: posts small blind 10dragi122: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to CaneKid07 [Ac Qs]poemoekel: calls 20mags125: folds CaneKid07: raises 100 to 120LUCKYLUK22: calls 120kimhelton67: folds forzagrifone: folds rex2732: folds ajpowel: folds dragi122: folds dragi122 is sitting outpoemoekel: folds *** FLOP *** [3s Qc 2d]CaneKid07: bets 100LUCKYLUK22: calls 100*** TURN *** [3s Qc 2d] [4d]CaneKid07: bets 300LUCKYLUK22: calls 300*** RIVER *** [3s Qc 2d 4d] [Ad]dragi122 has returnedCaneKid07: bets 500LUCKYLUK22: raises 480 to 980 and is all-inCaneKid07: calls 480*** SHOW DOWN ***LUCKYLUK22: shows [9d 8d] (a flush, Ace high)CaneKid07: shows [Ac Qs] (two pair, Aces and Queens)LUCKYLUK22 collected 3050 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 3050 | Rake 0 Board [3s Qc 2d 4d Ad]Seat 1: kimhelton67 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: forzagrifone folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: rex2732 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: ajpowel (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: dragi122 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: poemoekel folded before FlopSeat 7: mags125 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: CaneKid07 showed [Ac Qs] and lost with two pair, Aces and QueensSeat 9: LUCKYLUK22 showed [9d 8d] and won (3050) with a flush, Ace high Link to post Share on other sites
albasuna 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Author Share Posted October 14, 2007 PokerStars Game #12624802413: Tournament #64075885, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/10/14 - 14:57:35 (ET)Table '64075885 17' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: kimhelton67 (1620 in chips) Seat 2: forzagrifone (1370 in chips) Seat 3: rex2732 (1460 in chips) Seat 4: ajpowel (1480 in chips) Seat 5: dragi122 (1500 in chips) Seat 6: poemoekel (1420 in chips) Seat 7: mags125 (1500 in chips) Seat 8: CaneKid07 (1650 in chips) Seat 9: LUCKYLUK22 (1500 in chips) ajpowel: posts small blind 10dragi122: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to CaneKid07 [Ac Qs]poemoekel: calls 20mags125: folds CaneKid07: raises 100 to 120LUCKYLUK22: calls 120kimhelton67: folds forzagrifone: folds rex2732: folds ajpowel: folds dragi122: folds dragi122 is sitting outpoemoekel: folds *** FLOP *** [3s Qc 2d]CaneKid07: bets 100LUCKYLUK22: calls 100*** TURN *** [3s Qc 2d] [4d]CaneKid07: bets 300LUCKYLUK22: calls 300*** RIVER *** [3s Qc 2d 4d] [Ad]dragi122 has returnedCaneKid07: bets 500LUCKYLUK22: raises 480 to 980 and is all-inCaneKid07: calls 480*** SHOW DOWN ***LUCKYLUK22: shows [9d 8d] (a flush, Ace high)CaneKid07: shows [Ac Qs] (two pair, Aces and Queens)LUCKYLUK22 collected 3050 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 3050 | Rake 0 Board [3s Qc 2d 4d Ad]Seat 1: kimhelton67 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: forzagrifone folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: rex2732 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: ajpowel (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: dragi122 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: poemoekel folded before FlopSeat 7: mags125 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: CaneKid07 showed [Ac Qs] and lost with two pair, Aces and QueensSeat 9: LUCKYLUK22 showed [9d 8d] and won (3050) with a flush, Ace highlol pretty standard if you ask me. he obv can see the future. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 lol pretty standard if you ask me. he obv can see the future.PF raise a bit high but that's not bad. Flop/turn bets way too low. Sucks that river sucked out but I think you played it pretty badly too! Link to post Share on other sites
Tugglife2 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 PF raise a bit high but that's not bad. Flop/turn bets way too low. Sucks that river sucked out but I think you played it pretty badly too!Thanks for the tips. My bets after the flop were almost pot sized I thought, they were at the minimum half the pot. How should I have played the hand? Link to post Share on other sites
Czech Razor 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Thanks for the tips. My bets after the flop were almost pot sized I thought, they were at the minimum half the pot. How should I have played the hand?Raise pre-flop to around 80 rather than 120.Bet around 1/2 to 2/3's the pot on the flop.Bet closer to 2/3's the pot on the turn.If he still chases ... well, not much you can do about that. Link to post Share on other sites
Tugglife2 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Raise pre-flop to around 80 rather than 120.Bet around 1/2 to 2/3's the pot on the flop.Bet closer to 2/3's the pot on the turn.If he still chases ... well, not much you can do about that.Got it, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Raise to 80 PF, then you have the caller (80) + 20 + 20 + 10 = 210 in the pot on the flop. Bet 150 on the flop. If he calls, then that's 510 in the pot on the turn. Bet 325-350. That puts around 1200 in the pot on the river and leaves you close to 1100 behind. Link to post Share on other sites
Czech Razor 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Raise to 80 PF, then you have the caller (80) + 20 + 20 + 10 = 210 in the pot on the flop. Bet 150 on the flop. If he calls, then that's 510 in the pot on the turn. Bet 325-350. That puts around 1200 in the pot on the river and leaves you close to 1100 behind.I wish someone else had said that sooner :/I think your bet size on the flop is too large. It will force out smaller pockets and other weaker hands that might call a 1/2 pot bet. I agree with making the turn bet larger once a card comes that brings four to the flush - that's really all you need to be concerned with when it comes to drawing hands so a raise from the villain means there is a good chance you are behind in the hand at this point. Link to post Share on other sites
arpinology 0 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 i remember, several years ago, i was hesistant to play a 3 dollar freezeout because of the buy in(too steep!)and then when i finally decided to play, bluffing away all my chips on the 2nd hand with GARBAGE. that was lesson #1. the other bad donk play i made, thinking my top pair was good against a board like 8-9-10-J-6 when the player was making small bets on the flop and so forth.and that was lesson #2 Link to post Share on other sites
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