Drwnded

Well, thanks guys, I feel a bit better already that I felt this was a tough spot, since I have 3 responses so far from good players, with one suggesting push, one recommending fold, and the other arguing for a call.

I guessing he had a set, since he limped in, then got aggressive? Or a moronically slow-played overpair.I think you played it fine. You certainly had the pot odds to call the flop bet with your double gut-buster.On the turn, you called his overbet I assume since he may well have been bluffing with something like two overs and you therefore might have even been leading, and had plenty of likely outs if not.The river plays itself.Use the hand converter btw.

Consider folding preflop. Otherwise, I would've raised to around 3-400 on the turn. I'm guessing one or both of your opponents, who've already voluntarily put money in the pot on this street, thinks you're bluffing (not likely to put you on 10,7) or raising a draw and calls. Slowplaying the turn is not awful here with a rainbow board and you holding the nuts, and has the advantage of letting them try to catch a card on the river that helps them - however, you're not likely to get any more money out of them unless that happens.use the hand converter btw.

WSOP ME qualifier, 14 players left, top 2 get 12K entry package to WSOP ME. Villian has been raising a lot of pots preflop, often moving all in as an opener/over the top, but sometimes just opening with a standard raise.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxHero (t19089)MP2 (t32776)CO (t17426)Button (t13306)SB (t12399)BB (t8740)UTG =#A500AF(villian)/ (t11742)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q:spade:, A:heart:. UTG (Villian) raises to t1800, MP1 (Hero) ?

Normally I'd stick in a raise here and try to take down the pot preflop, b/c AJo is one of my least fav hands to play out of position. The way you describe these two however, it sounds as though one or the other would likely call your raise, so I might just complete and take a look at the flop. If you miss, it's easy to check/fold; if it hits you, then you can punish the playing tendencies of these two as you described.

Not only to bump this thread, but hopefully to add a little something:Last night while playing in an MTT, another bit of strategy that I employ sometimes occurred to me.When I flop a strong made hand (example: top two-pair or a set) against one opponent who is relatively short-stacked, obviously my main consideration is how I can get them to put all their chips in the middle. I think in these situations it's important to size your bet in terms of a percentage of your opponents stack, rather than as a percentage of the pot. I find it optimal to bet an amount that leaves your opponent thinkin

That's a formidable scent. Stings the nostrils. . . in a good way.Let's musk up.

Move all-in after seeing this flop. If he has a pp lower than queens, a flush draw, mid or bottom pair, or he completely whiffed he'll probably then fold, and he might even fold a queen with a weakish kicker.

It sounds like most of the useful "what-if" scenario pot equity info you get from this program can also be obtained using poker stove (which is free), no?http://www.pokerstove.com/

There's a really interesting article by Lee Jones I believe in the recent issue of cardplayer mag where he details a relatively simple system for deciding when to push/fold playing heads-up NLHE with low M's. He calls the system SAGE or some such. Very interesting read. Supposedly mathematically provable to be an optimal approach in terms of chip EV.

What if the villian was on your right, then reraised you all in after limping initially? That happened to me a while back in a $200 buy-in large MTT early on - villian limps from EP, one caller, I raise 5XBB with QQ, and early limper then jams, other limper folds and it was up to me. Without reliable reads, do you guys find the EP "limp/reraise all-in move" to more often mean AA/KK/AK, or does it mean a player with a middle pair hoping for some fold equity + a coin-flip if called?

3-bet the flop?

Yeah, I agree with you guys. I 3-bet, he capped, I called and he had the nuts. He then berated me for not "knowing" that he "obviously" had the nuts when he raised the river.I'd play it the same way again.Revenge is sweet though - after this hand I went on a tremendous rush and won 50BB's in 45 minutes at this one table, some portion of it from this guy. He shut up after a while

Quick question: (hand hx at home)PP 10 handed 5/10 LHE. BB is a call station. You open-raise from small blind with K,9 hearts and are called by BB. Flop a flush draw with Js,7h,2h. You bet flop, BB calls. Turn is a brick, you bet turn, BB calls. River is 4h. You bet, BB raises. Do you call or three-bet?

Two words: Tiffany Williamson. Living proof that bad players can get very very lucky and go deep in big tournys.Overall I agree with the above however. For good players it's more important not to get unlucky, b/c you'll probably be getting your money in as a favorite more often than not, so you won't be needing to hit those 3-outers to survive very often. When I go deep in a tourney it's usually b/c other players aren't sucking out against me very often, and I've gotten action on my good cards. It's hard to overstate the importance of getting action, b/c you're not going to make much head

There are many times preflop with KK that you'll suspect the villian has AA, and sometimes you'll be correct. More often, they'll have AK, QQ or worse. Get as many of your chips into the pot as early in the hand as possible with that hand.

I understand your point. I do not think I am capable of excluding the possibility that the hero holds a pocket pair if I am the guy with 22. If you are able to do this, you are a much better hand reader than me. Mad 'props' to you, my friend.

If you figure out a way to be 'reasonably certain' that he doesn't have a pocket pair, let me know Pushing when you're shortstacked with dueces is reasonable, b/c you'll usually have some fold equity.Calling off all your chips with dueces is donkish, especially in this situation. You will frequently be facing a mid to high pair and be practically dead. Best case scenario is a coin flip. So you're either a slight favorite or a huge underdog against an average range of potential holdings (any PP - any two unpaired broadways); on average you are an mild underdog to win. It's the definition o

To me, it seems all three of you played the hand in a somewhat unorthodox manner. If UTG+1 was on a steal, why min-raise, inviting someone (like yourself) to come over the top, or at the very least inviting a call from the BB? A min-raise from early position is always a red flag to me, b/c it looks like someone who wants to be reraised (AA/KK).The villian's call of the initial raise was bad enough (M was too low to flat call with ducks - should've folded or moved in IMO), but his call of your all in was truly awful, unless he thought he had some monster tell on you. I can't say I would've m

Agree with the above. Though I would probably raise about as copernicus recommended, sometimes I'll just move in preflop. It's surprising how often you'll get called online when you move in from late position after there are several limpers in the pot, especially in smaller buy-in events, even by players with hands as weak as AQ or a smaller pocket pair. Presumbably they are interpreting your all-in as a steal attempt when they call.

Who is the mod here? Can we sticky this link with a title something like "please use this converter before posting hand history!"The raw hand hx's are so tedious to follow, many times I can't even bring myself to wade thru them.

Since this thread may get stickied, I was asked to move this info from a recent thread over here. Here's the original post plus some responses (sorry, long):Drwnded wrote:The longer HOH v1 and 2 are out, the more people I see in tournies employing at least some of the tactics described, especially probe and continuation bets. Lately, I'm trying to identify the players who are seemingly using these types of bets at my table early so I can resteal from them after the flop in the following way:Let's say I'm heads-up postflop with a player who raised preflop and has shown a tendency to make conti

You're right. Wordy. I think I described it the way I did however to try to make it obvious why you only need to win 50% of the time for this to be a breakeven play.

Agreed. That's why I mentioned only trying this on opponents who seem to be making probe and continuation bets. Against the average 5-10$ MTT player, no plays are necessary, and as you mentioned are actually counterproductive. Just value bet.Amarillo, I also like your move of just cold-calling the flop bet then taking the pot when checked to you on the turn. The only disadvantage is letting them see the turn, especially if an A/K/Q hits.

The longer HOH v1 and 2 are out, the more people I see in tournies employing at least some of the tactics described, especially probe and continuation bets. Lately, I'm trying to identify the players who are seemingly using these types of bets at my table early so I can resteal from them after the flop in the following way:Let's say I'm heads-up postflop with a player who raised preflop and has shown a tendency to make continuation/probe bets. If the flop is reasonably benign-looking and the villian bets out 1/2 or less of the pot, I find I can fold them and steal the pot with any two cards