FIREonICE, on Friday, March 17th, 2006, 2:59 AM, said:
jayboogie, your initial statement said that the other player could've slowplayed a set, or hit two pair. no one does a good player slow play a set on the flop and turn. 2 pair is more likely, but again, what could he be calling you down here on the flop/turn?? callin is the best option.
I'm throwing those out as possibilities, it's HU, why can't those hands be slowplayed? They're strong enough to be played this way if the player so chooses to. He didn't do anything on the turn, he just checked and got a free card. He just bet the flop and called a raise, I don't see how anybody can get a read on an opponents hands just from those actions. He bets the river, it could be a bluff, it could be a legitimate value betting hand, we don't know that, but we lose value for our own hand by not raising since we will get called from weaker hands given the blinds at what they are and in a HU situation.You can make a better case for just calling this bet in a Tournament with more players in it and deeper stacks at a crucial point in the tournament against an opponent who has you covered.
Canada, on Friday, March 17th, 2006, 3:02 AM, said:
Put yourself in the villains seat.Are you calling an all-in with 2-pair or a set based on the way the hand played?
I would say given the chipstack situation, you're only left with 450k behind you and the blinds are already high that the chips are probably going in the middle with a good 2 pair or set, of course nothing is definite and maybe a strong read against an opponent will allow you to get away from it, but against a professional, that's just not happening here. A good player may see that flush card as an opportunity to push a player off a hand, which at these blinds is not inconceivable.Also putting yourself in the villain's seat to decide whether to raise based on whether you would make the call is irrelevant, you have no idea whether your opponent would call with 2 pair, heck he may even call with just a pair here. Play is aggressive when HU and it doesn't take much more than a pair to get all the chips in there very often. As I said before, this is too good of an opportunity to close the match out to not take it.Unless your opponent bets with nothing but the nuts, it's still a raise here.