Sanjaya Lost !

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That....is hot.BTW, my 2 cents, as a 3rd party observer....Joe Montana is the greatest QB of all-time. Period.

Ha! I stumped you didnt I? Funny how some people claim women know nothing about football.Double or nothing?

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Ha! I stumped you didnt I? Funny how some people claim women know nothing about football.Double or nothing?

Nah, not stumped. I fully expected you to be able to answer it. I just asked for my own gratification, because females talking about football is almost the hottest thing ever (second only to topless females talking about football, obv.) My roommate (also female) is a giant football fan as well. We're both Seahawks partial season ticket holders (split 4 tickets with a group of friends, get 4 games each).Edit: But if going double or nothing will continue the conversation, then hell yes. Superbowl XIX, where he owned Marino, is always good, and a classic example of why Montana is the greatest ever.

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Nah, not stumped. I fully expected you to be able to answer it. I just asked for my own gratification, because females talking about football is almost the hottest thing ever (second only to topless females talking about football, obv.) My roommate (also female) is a giant football fan as well. We're both Seahawks partial season ticket holders (split 4 tickets with a group of friends, get 4 games each).Edit: But if going double or nothing will continue the conversation, then hell yes. Superbowl XIX, where he owned Marino, is always good, and a classic example of why Montana is the greatest ever.

Ha! 49ers spanked the Fish. Good times. (btw, two people you'll NEVER see again, Jerry Rice and Barry Sanders)Alexander was a fantasy stud, not so much anymore. Get rid of Hasselbeck, and you might have a fighting chance.

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Ha! 49ers spanked the Fish. Good times. (btw, two people you'll NEVER see again, Jerry Rice and Barry Sanders)Alexander was a fantasy stud, not so much anymore. Get rid of Hasselbeck, and you might have a fighting chance.

I dunno, I think Hass will be better now that he's gotten his shoulder taken care of. He was playing with a torn labrum for the last 3 years, which we (the general public, I mean) just found out about after last season. Alexander is falling off, like all backs do at his age. The O-line is alternately too old (Chris Grey) or too young (Rob Sims, Chris Spencer). It should be an interesting season, especially with all the moves that the 49ers made in the offseason.I miss Barry Sanders. I was still young when he was playing, but he was the sickest running back I've ever watched play.THREADJACK, BITCHES!

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I dunno, I think Hass will be better now that he's gotten his shoulder taken care of. He was playing with a torn labrum for the last 3 years, which we (the general public, I mean) just found out about after last season. Alexander is falling off, like all backs do at his age. The O-line is alternately too old (Chris Grey) or too young (Rob Sims, Chris Spencer). It should be an interesting season, especially with all the moves that the 49ers made in the offseason.I miss Barry Sanders. I was still young when he was playing, but he was the sickest running back I've ever watched play.THREADJACK, BITCHES!

LT is king for until he retires, but Frank Gore is he next hot prsopect.Barry did it all with absolutely no help. There will never be another like him.And screw Barry's dad, he's twice the back Jim Brown was. Period.

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I think John Elway has to be in the conversation.Barry Sanders is the man.Isn't it DDIDM?I like Actuary. I like DDIDM too. I really don't think they owe an apology, I haven't reread it from the beginning, but I doubt Actuary said anything over the line. DDIDM speaks passionately and often goes overboard, but at least he stands up for what he believes in. I can see why people wouldn't like him though, but he seems like a good kid to me.

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LT is king for until he retires, but Frank Gore is he next hot prsopect.Barry did it all with absolutely no help. There will never be another like him.And screw Barry's dad, he's twice the back Jim Brown was. Period.

Frank Gore is sick. LT is LT. In a class by himself right now, no doubt.Yeah, of backs I've watched in my life, my favorite is Walter Payton, but if I had to pick the best, I'd go Barry Sanders every time.I still love Sweetness though. I'm pretty sure I still know all the words to the Superbowl Shuffle, and I wasn't even old enough to hear it when it was first released.

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LT is king for until he retires, but Frank Gore is he next hot prsopect.Barry did it all with absolutely no help. There will never be another like him.And screw Barry's dad, he's twice the back Jim Brown was. Period.

What's this about Barry's dad? I missed this.So, out of Joe Montana, Tom Brady, John Elway, and Peyton Manning, who do you leave out of the Top 3?

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Frank Gore is sick. LT is LT. In a class by himself right now, no doubt.Yeah, of backs I've watched in my life, my favorite is Walter Payton, but if I had to pick the best, I'd go Barry Sanders every time.I still love Sweetness though. I'm pretty sure I still know all the words to the Superbowl Shuffle, and I wasn't even old enough to hear it when it was first released.

Damn you! I keep trying to leave this thread and you keep drawing me back!Friiiiiiiiiiiidge

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What's this about Barry's dad? I missed this.So, out of Joe Montana, Tom Brady, John Elway, and Peyton Manning, who do you leave out of the Top 3?

Brady and Manning.+ Favre.

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Frank Gore is sick. LT is LT. In a class by himself right now, no doubt.Yeah, of backs I've watched in my life, my favorite is Walter Payton, but if I had to pick the best, I'd go Barry Sanders every time.I still love Sweetness though. I'm pretty sure I still know all the words to the Superbowl Shuffle, and I wasn't even old enough to hear it when it was first released.

Sweetness used to run through people, Barry made 'em miss. I'd go Barry too I think, though those old clips of Sweetness are goddam pretty.

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What's this about Barry's dad? I missed this.So, out of Joe Montana, Tom Brady, John Elway, and Peyton Manning, who do you leave out of the Top 3?

Barry's dad, during his career, always told him that Jim Brown is the best. And to the second part...Its not even a tough decision, Brady gets the bench.I'll be back later, boys, to give you another lesson.

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edit long post...essentially,Randy, Vatche and I are fine. You have a right to your wrong opinion, concerning my defense of Finz

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Its not even a tough decision, Brady gets the bench.I'll be back later, boys, to give you another lesson.

Lollers. The football gods are going to punish you with another outstanding Patriots season, capped off by a 4th Super Bowl.Good work.Speaking of the Patriots, does anyone argue that this last season was the single best rebuilding season of any football team ever?12-4 with not one receiver and another patchwork D? (Except Troy at WR of course, but he is getting old.)

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What's this about Barry's dad? I missed this.So, out of Joe Montana, Tom Brady, John Elway, and Peyton Manning, who do you leave out of the Top 3?

At this point, I have to say Brady, but I see that changing. Ultimately, I think it will be Elway that gets left out of the top 3. Still top 5 though, even though I don't particularly like the guy.

Barry's dad, during his career, always told him that Jim Brown is the best. And to the second part...Its not even a tough decision, Brady gets the bench.I'll be back later, boys, to give you another lesson.

Yeah, there was a quote from Barry's dad that roughly said "Barry Sanders is the 3rd best back ever, behind Jim Brown and me."

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Damn you! I keep trying to leave this thread and you keep drawing me back!Friiiiiiiiiiiidge

You're lookin' at the Fridge, I'm the rookieI may be large, but I'm no dumb cookie.

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At this point, I have to say Brady, but I see that changing. Ultimately, I think it will be Elway that gets left out of the top 3. Still top 5 though, even though I don't particularly like the guy.Yeah, there was a quote from Barry's dad that roughly said "Barry Sanders is the 3rd best back ever, behind Jim Brown and me."

I'll try to keep my head here, but how on earth can anybody pick Peyton Manning over Tom Brady?He just beat him for the first fucking time when it mattered.Tom Brady just wiiiiiiiiiiins baby. Peyton has won once.Once.

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I'll try to keep my head here, but how on earth can anybody pick Peyton Manning over Tom Brady?He just beat him for the first fucking time when it mattered.Tom Brady just wiiiiiiiiiiins baby. Peyton has won once.Once.

Yeah, and Horace Grant won 3 NBA titles, but Charles Barkley won none, therefore Horace Grant is a better power forward than Charles Barkley. That argument just doesn't hold that much water for me.

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Slowly.Joe Montana, flushed from the pocket, rolls right. Takes 3 steps backwards, 3 feet from the sideline, throws to back right endzone, finds Dwight Clark. TOUCHDOWN!!! IMMACULATE RECEPTION!! At least thats how I remember it, against them faggot Cowgirls. DYNASTY BEGINS!He played against Cincy, in Cincy. Im pretty sure he could handle a little dusting.

That'll move the chains!!

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Yeah, and Horace Grant won 3 NBA titles, but Charles Barkley won none, therefore Horace Grant is a better power forward than Charles Barkley. That argument just doesn't hold that much water for me.

Who has played better every time the Pats and Colts have played, minus this last game? (Where Peyton played great, this one time) Even when it hasn't been Pats/Colts, who plays better when it matters?In the clutch?It's not even close.

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Who has played better every time the Pats and Colts have played, minus this last game? (Where Peyton played great, this one time) Meaning, who performs better in the clutch?It's not even close.

Ok, so Brady's the better clutch player right now and historically.Peyton has more passing yards, touchdowns, completions (even subtracting the years that he played and Brady didn't) better completion percentage, and a better career passer rating.And it's entirely possible that he might be over his choking issues. He demonstrated better poise this last year than in years past.

[Lolli 0]

I'll try to keep my head here, but how on earth can anybody pick Peyton Manning over Tom Brady?

Stats speak for themsleves...Manning:Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ Rate 1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 575 326 56.7 3739 6.50 78 26 28 22/109 42 8 71.2 1999 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 533 331 62.1 4135 7.76 80 26 15 14/116 56 11 90.7 2000 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 571 357 62.5 4413 7.73 78 33 15 20/131 51 8 94.7 2001 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 547 343 62.7 4131 7.55 86 26 23 29/232 55 11 84.1 2002 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 591 392 66.3 4200 7.11 69 27 19 23/145 51 11 88.8 2003 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 566 379 67.0 4267 7.54 79 29 10 18/107 45 9 99.0 2004 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 497 336 67.6 4557 9.17 80 49 10 13/101 68 13 121.1 2005 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 453 305 67.3 3747 8.27 80 28 10 17/81 45 6 104.1 2006 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 557 362 65.0 4397 7.89 68 31 9 14/86 53 7 101.0 TOTAL 144 144 4890 3131 64.0 37586 7.69 86 275 139 170/1108 466 84 94.4 Brady:2000 New England Patriots 1 0 3 1 33.3 6 2.00 6 0 0 0/0 0 0 42.4 2001 New England Patriots 15 14 413 264 63.9 2843 6.88 91 18 12 41/216 32 6 86.5 2002 New England Patriots 16 16 601 373 62.1 3764 6.26 49 28 14 31/190 37 3 85.7 2003 New England Patriots 16 16 527 317 60.2 3620 6.87 82 23 12 32/219 44 8 85.9 2004 New England Patriots 16 16 474 288 60.8 3692 7.79 50 28 14 26/162 52 10 92.6 2005 New England Patriots 16 16 530 334 63.0 4110 7.75 71 26 14 26/188 59 9 92.3 2006 New England Patriots 16 16 516 319 61.8 3529 6.84 62 24 12 26/175 46 8 87.9 TOTAL 96 94 3064 1896 61.9 21564 7.04 91 147 78 182/1150 270 44 88.4 Ohh, lookey here...Palmer:2003 Cincinnati Bengals 0 0 0 0 --- 0 --- 0 0 0 0/0 0 0 --- 2004 Cincinnati Bengals 13 13 432 263 60.9 2897 6.71 76 18 18 25/178 34 8 77.3 2005 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 509 345 67.8 3836 7.54 70 32 12 19/105 43 9 101.1 2006 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 520 324 62.3 4035 7.76 74 28 13 36/233 52 15 93.9 TOTAL 45 45 1461 932 63.8 10768 7.37 76 78 43 80/516 129 32 91.5 Im not even a fan, but Palmer will dominate Brady by careers end.

[Lolli 0]

That'll move the chains!!

I hart you!

Ok, so Brady's the better clutch player right now and historically.Peyton has more passing yards, touchdowns, completions (even subtracting the years that he played and Brady didn't) better completion percentage, and a better career passer rating.And it's entirely possible that he might be over his choking issues. He demonstrated better poise this last year than in years past.

Agreed. Until this year. Peyton won the big won, the monkey is gone. Peyton doesnt look back.

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Im not even a fan, but Palmer will dominate Brady by careers end.

I'm glad you're keeping your sense of humor Lolli.Wilt Chamberlain has the stats, Bill Russell has the rings.Wilt maybe had more talent, but you know why Bill is considered the better player?Because he was the ultimate team player, and would let nothing stop him from leading his team to victory.Tom Brady kids, is the reincarnate of this attitude. And that is why his team will die for him. And that is why they win.That is what makes him better. Those boys can have all the stats they want, the stats aren't the ultimate measure of the man as a player.Never have been, never will be.

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I cant believe this is still going. Vatche, Shut the fuck up and move on.

Thank God.

Ahhh, its all coming together now. You just want to be a part of a Super Thread. You seem to be faggy enough to hang with the boys in the Sick Thread. Come join us.

No thanks.-Strat.Oh, and Tom Brady and Brett Favre suck.