Eph2008 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Everyone who cares about poker has seen Rounders and read the books that tell you: 'your goal is to win one big bet an hour'. Obviously, this applies mainly to limit games. My question is, what about online poker?There's the fact that the hands move faster and you can easily see an hour go by with well over one hand/minute. In addition, theres the fact that online poker is in some aspects a very different game than regular old fashioned poker.Whether you think playing online is tougher or softer, what do you think the standard hourly 'goal' should be when you play on your computer? Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 BB/100 is a more relevant measure online, not BB/hr.aim for 2-3 BB/100 online. 5 BB/100 is crushing the game.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 This is a frequent question. Online you should go by BB/100 which is Bb per 100 hands. Some people play up to 4 tables at a time which allows them to see around 250 hands per hour...which, to say the least, is alot more than the 30 hands per hour you see at a casino.2BB/100 is doing really good. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Why does this apply to limit games only? This applies for cash games of limit/PL/and NL.Also, if you go on a rush then you are going to play more than 2BB/100. Play according to your cards not according to a system goal of 1-5bb/100,etc.Just play the limit game tnc with premium hands only.Sometimes if you miss you will get someone to fold anyway. Those are my favorite people. The ones that chase your bet all the way down the river for their str8 or flush and then fold the river. I always find that interesting.If you are playing tnc they will think you have a hand everytime. Because it is limit, they will chase and fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Ebonwoulfe 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Well, 1BB/hr is basing it on what, 35 hands/hr? A simple conversion (assuming 35 hands/hr) gives us an equivalent win rate of1BB/hr * 1/35 hr/hands = 1/35 BB/hand * 100 hands = 2.857 BBWhich is a win rate of 2.857 BB/100. Link to post Share on other sites
RISINGSHARK 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Can someone please explain this BB(Big Bet) Theory please ?I generally play only SNG's and have no idea really what you guys are talking about.Am interested in finding about cash games a little more.Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 say you play 3/6 limit hold'em6 is the big bet. Link to post Share on other sites
KramitDaToad 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Why does this apply to limit games only? This applies for cash games of limit/PL/and NL.Nope. Good players of PL/NL are looking for 10BB/100.The offset here is that you need a much bigger bank roll For limit 300*BB is recommendedFor NL 1500*BB is recommended.Therefore the ROI is the same if you acheive 2BB/100 at limit and 10BB/100 at NL.However it is a lot easier to multitable limit and the variance is lower. Well, 1BB/hr is basing it on what, 35 hands/hr? A simple conversion (assuming 35 hands/hr) gives us an equivalent win rate of1BB/hr * 1/35 hr/hands = 1/35 BB/hand * 100 hands = 2.857 BBWhich is a win rate of 2.857 BB/100.Perfectly correct. For multitabling though you are giving up an edge by spreading your concentration across multiple tables, so it reasonable to expect this figure to drop if you try this. Link to post Share on other sites
walktheplank69 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I'd be looking at 5 big bets per hour at least and If I'm not on track I'd be looking for a weaker game. Link to post Share on other sites
JaysonWeber 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Someone has probobly already said this... the amount you win bb/100 is relevant to the stakes you play... beating a 50/100 game for 1 bb an hour or.. 100 if it were online is not necesarilly bad, and probobly close to average for a lot of regulars at that limit, but playing a .25/.50 you should have 2-3... Get the drift? Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 ...which, to say the least, is alot more than the 30 hands per hour you see at a casino.lol. You're 20. Legally, you haven't stepped foot into a casino. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 ...which, to say the least, is alot more than the 30 hands per hour you see at a casino.lol. You're 20. Legally, you haven't stepped foot into a casino.yah because all casinos card everyone and all casinos are 21 and over :roll: Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 ...which, to say the least, is alot more than the 30 hands per hour you see at a casino.lol. You're 20. Legally, you haven't stepped foot into a casino.yah because all casinos card everyone and all casinos are 21 and over :roll:Which is why I said "legally" he hasn't stepped foot in a casino. Illegally, sure he may have. Reading and logic is difficult for some, I know. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Which is why I said "legally" he hasn't stepped foot in a casino. Illegally, sure he may have.Reading and logic is difficult for some, I know.He pointed out that not all casinos are 21+It is dificult isn't it.You make it too easy, sport. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 ...which, to say the least, is alot more than the 30 hands per hour you see at a casino.lol. You're 20. Legally, you haven't stepped foot into a casino.yah because all casinos card everyone and all casinos are 21 and over :roll: Which is why I said "legally" he hasn't stepped foot in a casino. Illegally, sure he may have. Reading and logic is difficult for some, I know.man, we really need that sacrasm thing Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 ...which, to say the least, is alot more than the 30 hands per hour you see at a casino.lol. You're 20. Legally, you haven't stepped foot into a casino.yah because all casinos card everyone and all casinos are 21 and over :roll: Which is why I said "legally" he hasn't stepped foot in a casino. Illegally, sure he may have. Reading and logic is difficult for some, I know.man, we really need that sacrasm thing95% of the posters here know that :roll: is a sarcasm warning.At least, I hope they do. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 95% of the posters here know that :roll: is a sarcasm warning. At least, I hope they do.Farrell doesnt, apparently Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 95% of the posters here know that :roll: Â is a sarcasm warning. Â At least, I hope they do.Farrell doesnt, apparentlyHe's a very special poster.You already knew that. Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 He's the only one who's publicly challenged Smasharoo to a $25 NL heads-up match (no re-loading), on Party Poker. Smash, has disrespectfully declined however, due to the fact that he's scared of people learning his Party name.What a coward, right?If he ever agrees, we'll post the hand history on here for everyone to see. Link to post Share on other sites
dpianomn 0 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 anyone know if the normal bb/100 is adjusted for shorthanded play? Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 anyone know if the normal bb/100 is adjusted for shorthanded play?I don't think it would change much... thats why it's BB/100Now BB/hr would obviously go up with shorthanded play because you're seeing more hands. But I don't think BB/100 goes up whether it be heads up or 9-handed. That all depends on what you are better at. Some people's will probably drop when it gets shorthanded, depending on their opponents. Link to post Share on other sites
jlgosse 0 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 When I don't gamble on stupid hands I usually run at least 3-5BB/100.6BB/50 hands just then on empire, even lost a key pot. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 anyone know if the normal bb/100 is adjusted for shorthanded play?I don't think it would change much... thats why it's BB/100Now BB/hr would obviously go up with shorthanded play because you're seeing more hands. But I don't think BB/100 goes up whether it be heads up or 9-handed. That all depends on what you are better at. Some people's will probably drop when it gets shorthanded, depending on their opponents.thats incorrect. BB/100 should be much higher for shorthanded play. the reason is you can PLAY more hands, not just see more hands. you have more opportunities to either outplay your opponent or get outplayed. Link to post Share on other sites
BigSlickBengal 0 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 ...which, to say the least, is alot more than the 30 hands per hour you see at a casino.lol. You're 20. Legally, you haven't stepped foot into a casino.in FL u only have to be 18 to get into a poker room at the dog tracks..... Link to post Share on other sites
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