oldirtyharry 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I don't remember the name of the thread (but I'm counting on Dane to be able to find it ) about the viliian on here who shafted another poster out of $50 doing a cash trade. An awesome thread resulted in the excommunication of the villian and offers to terrorize him with mass mailings, etc. Who remembers ?I remember this thread. Someone should search it out Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Michigan_Madman,Ever play at Greektown in Detroit? If not, I can assure you that it wouldn't happen like that in their poker room. The guy would probably get his *** kicked by either other players at the table or even some of dealers. **** like that wouldn't happen around here, sorry about your bad experience. Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Michigan_Madman,Ever play at Greektown in Detroit? If not, I can assure you that it wouldn't happen like that in their poker room. The guy would probably get his *** kicked by either other players at the table or even some of dealers. **** like that wouldn't happen around here, sorry about your bad experience.Ya greektown has the feel of an oldschool poker room, a little seedy and most of the people are no nonsense. I remember hearing a guy tell me he stopped playing there when he saw someone get shot there. Link to post Share on other sites
capthowdy981 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I hate to be the ******* here, but in all honesty.. your hastiness in making the call was probably the downfall here.There's no way that the cameras can record audio, and without a unanimous vote from the table - essentially it's your (collectively) words against his. All the security cameras show are you acting out of turn, him folding and seat 9 folding. You should've been calm, let seat 9 fold, and the dealer place the chips in the pot. You call, your chips go in the pot.. extra money returned. Cards flipped and winner gets the pot. But since the dealer never pulled his chips into the pot, it simply looks like he folded, and seat 9 folded... leaving you what was in the pot. That's probably why they knew you were right, but it's not what you know.. it's what you can prove. And your words vs his isn't solid proof.BTW - pocket jacks suck. Maybe he had a small straight and just wanted to save you money? Sounds like a nice guy.EDIT: if i were "owed" 1k and guy didn't pay, and I knew he had it on him. I wouldn't be sitting at a ****ing table saying "what if..." Link to post Share on other sites
esprito 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Mate something similar happened to me on Saturday night playing Roulette. I had $20 on red, and another player took their chips off red along with mine before final bets had been called. The result was red, and I should have had $40 total on the table ($20 + the $20 win). I spoke to the pitboss who said they would only pay me the $20 I would have won and not the $20 that was stolen. I found this completely unreasonable, as pretty much the only way I would get that money back is if they found the guy (no doubt he was long gone). They said if the bet was $10k it would have been the same story Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 If it landed on black, you'd have got your $20 back too (most likely).They treat it as if the bet was not made.Them catching the theif probably doesnt mean you'd get more. It just means that they'd get their money back. Link to post Share on other sites
TylerSalzman 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I thought Casinos broke arms and legs if people did **** like that. It's crazy to think that the money was right there in his pockets too, and they wouldn't make him pay up. You figured him out and waited to hit the hand you needed to bust his ***.... then get robbed... that's so terrible.. I hope you get your money Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I hate to be the ******* here, but in all honesty.. your hastiness in making the call was probably the downfall here.There's no way that the cameras can record audio, and without a unanimous vote from the table - essentially it's your (collectively) words against his. All the security cameras show are you acting out of turn, him folding and seat 9 folding.What do the security cameras show if he acted in turn?He had several impartial eye-witnesses. That's better than tape. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I hope to see this video on the next "Vegas: Cheaters Exposed!" Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 shoulda pissed on the table.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 0 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Told this to a few guys at our home game tonight... figured I'd check for any resolution...Any updates? Link to post Share on other sites
Naslund44 0 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Told this to a few guys at our home game tonight... figured I'd check for any resolution...Any updates?He Was Last Seen: 16 Nov 2006 So I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites
fitzinabox 0 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 haha i remember this thread Link to post Share on other sites
GetSprung 0 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Great bump, I just told this story to a Caesar's floorman, completely forgetting this actually happened there. He must not have known, or it happens too often to recount. Link to post Share on other sites
HermanKahn 0 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 He ought to take that $1,200, divide it by all the hours he spent thinking about trying to get it back, get his "hourly wage" (probably negative) and then ask himself it was worth it. I've let bigger slights and injuries go just so I could move on and get back to living my life. Of course he's right and the other guy should pay, but such a small amount of money and some random loser isn't worth wasting your life over, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 He ought to take that $1,200, divide it by all the hours he spent thinking about trying to get it back, get his "hourly wage" (probably negative) and then ask himself it was worth it.Just so you know, no matter how many hours he put into it his "hourly wage" cannot be negative. Link to post Share on other sites
HermanKahn 0 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Just so you know, no matter how many hours he put into it his "hourly wage" cannot be negative.Good point, mybad--but if it works out to some tiny fraction of a cent, it might as well be. Link to post Share on other sites
Fluffdog87 2 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Good point, mybad--but if it works out to some tiny fraction of a cent, it might as well be. Thats hilarious and makes no sense.Get robbed. Response, Move on pretend $1,200 never exsisted. Link to post Share on other sites
HermanKahn 0 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Thats hilarious and makes no sense.Get robbed. Response, Move on pretend $1,200 never exsisted.Not at all--of course he should try to get it back; if it's not a huge ordeal, go for it. But at some point you have to ask yourself how important is it? How many hours of your time (i.e. life) are you prepared to sacrifice for absolute b*llshit? I've been in situations where I knew if I tried to "get justice" through the legal system, the odds were slim I'd collect and it would absolutely ruin every single aspect of my life in the meantime. (Not to mention the fact that I had no idea whether they'd try to get vengeance on me for taking them to court at all!) So I weighed the options and made the decision to let it go. To hell with them, life is short.I also walked out on a job and didn't collect money owed me for the sheer pleasure of telling the people involved to go f*ck themselves and never having to see, hear, speak to, or think about them again in my entire life. And MAN was it worth it! YMMV. Link to post Share on other sites
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