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the topic is over the top, but I'm 100% serious.I don't mean just online poker, its obviously just in a lull with the recent happenings, but recently I've seen people returning from Vegas saying the poker rooms in places are pretty dead.Could the 'boom' be over now? I understand it couldn't have kept on growing at the rate it was, but has it hit its peak, and is it goign to start to dwindle back down.If thats the case, how low will it go?I am sure I'll get some witty responses in general forum, and I'd be mightly upset if I didn't, but it's a very serious question I have. I have recently started to invest in to a company that some of you might know of by the name PokerTek. I like the premise, and I am very optomistic about the direction etc the company is taking. That being said, I am worried about the numbers dwindling will cause rooms and casino's to not want to invest more money in to poker with the boom running out of steam.This is really the only negative I could find about this company, and I want to make sure that my worries are unfounded.If you are interested in the company etc, I would be more then happy to discuss everything I know about them, or please let me know anything you've heard, or your feelings about their tables.Post is getting too long, i'll reply as you ask questions or input your viewpoints.Thanks,Symbolic

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I am sure I'll get some witty responses in general forum, and I'd be mightly upset if I didn't, but it's a very serious question I have.
Yes, poker is dying. He has AIDS and will be passing away very soon now.
I didnt even know Poker was sick. :club:
Thank you for making his night.
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Thank you for making his night.
I hope we can all make this night Poker's night, I mean, its his last. Or at least, very close to his last. He deserves it. After he contracted the HIV virus, Wandio, SuitedAces and I didn't know what to do...
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100% sure I Lol'd after seeing the first 3 replies. Serious ones can start at anytime tho :club:.
Ok, *ahem* serious time...I think that poker has gotten about as big as it can as far as the Main Event entrants go, considering that online poker contributed to nearly half of it's entrants this year, and online poker is being "banned." But on the other hand, it still surprises me when I talk to a guy at a card room that has never heard of the WPT or ever played online poker to begin with. I always assumed everyone played online poker that was younger like me, or at least tried it out before, but when I talk to card room donks they usually say, "Nah man, never tried it yet." So it's tough.I wouldn't say that the "boom" is over just yet because there still are so many people that are completely clueless to the game. I just think it is going to slow down a bit. I don't think poker is anywhere near it's peak, it has many many many years to come before that happens. And even Doyle said, "Poker has so much more time to grow before it levels off and #'s start to slowly decline, but poker will never be less than what it is today."
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Thank you for the good response.On a sidebar, does anybody play in any other casinos other than aroudn vegas, and if so, how are they doing? I'd go investigate myself, but I live way up in Maine, and really only been to Foxwoods before.Is it just Vegas' poker rooms that are having a rough go right now, or is it more widespread?

well the new law certainly won't help the poker boom so I would have to say yes.
I think the new law is being overstated at the moment with the majority of sites saying nothing will change for them, but of course I'm taking a more pessemistic view when it comes to not getting my hopes up. Needless to say I was looking at playing the online poker rooms themselves.If the law does actually take hold and really hurt online sites, do more people start going to casinos, or do more card rooms start sprouting? Or will they just stop playing poker, because it's not longer easily accessible.I know the answer for me, but I'm trying to get a read on the average poker player. What would your friends do if all the online poker sites lost their fish?
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Thank you for the good response.On a sidebar, does anybody play in any other casinos other than aroudn vegas, and if so, how are they doing? I'd go investigate myself, but I live way up in Maine, and really only been to Foxwoods before.Is it just Vegas' poker rooms that are having a rough go right now, or is it more widespread?I think the new law is being overstated at the moment with the majority of sites saying nothing will change for them, but of course I'm taking a more pessemistic view when it comes to not getting my hopes up. Needless to say I was looking at playing the online poker rooms themselves.If the law does actually take hold and really hurt online sites, do more people start going to casinos, or do more card rooms start sprouting? Or will they just stop playing poker, because it's not longer easily accessible.I know the answer for me, but I'm trying to get a read on the average poker player. What would your friends do if all the online poker sites lost their fish?
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Thank you for the good response.On a sidebar, does anybody play in any other casinos other than aroudn vegas, and if so, how are they doing? I'd go investigate myself, but I live way up in Maine, and really only been to Foxwoods before.Is it just Vegas' poker rooms that are having a rough go right now, or is it more widespread?I think the new law is being overstated at the moment with the majority of sites saying nothing will change for them, but of course I'm taking a more pessemistic view when it comes to not getting my hopes up. Needless to say I was looking at playing the online poker rooms themselves.If the law does actually take hold and really hurt online sites, do more people start going to casinos, or do more card rooms start sprouting? Or will they just stop playing poker, because it's not longer easily accessible.I know the answer for me, but I'm trying to get a read on the average poker player. What would your friends do if all the online poker sites lost their fish?
yeah the law is being overstated at the moment, but how could the law help at all so that was why I said I think it's dying. I think more people will head to the casinos.. It's not like I'll notice because I'm not 21 yet though. I think there will always be the fish anywhere you go but the more serious players will be willing to travel more to get to a casino.
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OP if you are posting/creating a BS thread like this then you are a pessimistic F**K who has no true passion for poker. Please disappear into the abyss of broken dreams. You are pond scum to bring this kind of karma to our holy ground.

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Hey Ripptyde,I won't get in to it w/ you. I used to like ur posts on FTR. I'm being 100% serious with this thread. I'm asking for opinions, thats all.I've made money playing poker, and I love the game, and will continue to play it no matter what. That's not what I'm asking. I'm asking if the average player will continue to do so.

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Yea i was in vegas this week and all the rooms deffinately were quiet. The Bellagio room was still pretty full but all the rest like the mirage the wynn binions caesars were all at less than half capacity and sometimes only had 2 or 3 tables going. I think it has too do with the over saturation of new mega rooms in town and the declining intrest. Poker will never go back to the days of only 3 or 4 rooms in town but some of these rooms are bound to close because of all of the real estate they take up and the fact that poker rooms to begin with are less profitable than the house games and slots. If the law approved in the us does really stop online players in the us the game will decline even more.

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OP if you are posting/creating a BS thread like this then you are a pessimistic F**K who has no true passion for poker. Please disappear into the abyss of broken dreams. You are pond scum to bring this kind of karma to our holy ground.
How about he stays, and you leave?
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Yea i was in vegas this week and all the rooms deffinately were quiet. The Bellagio room was still pretty full but all the rest like the mirage the wynn binions caesars were all at less than half capacity and sometimes only had 2 or 3 tables going. I think it has too do with the over saturation of new mega rooms in town and the declining intrest. Poker will never go back to the days of only 3 or 4 rooms in town but some of these rooms are bound to close because of all of the real estate they take up and the fact that poker rooms to begin with are less profitable than the house games and slots. If the law approved in the us does really stop online players in the us the game will decline even more.
If anything I think that this might help out the live game. If you lived in an area around a casino but only played online, now you would have to go to the casino to play. I think live is still on its way up. Now that I think about it Las Vegas rooms could be down based on the time of year. I would think most players would make a point to go during the world series. The next couple of months could just be a little bit slower because of this.
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I guess my next question should be, was anybody around the casino's the last couple years that could comment on october, or the months following the WSOP, being perhaps a slower month(s) than most for them? Or is this a recent phenomenom?

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I guess my next question should be, was anybody around the casino's the last couple years that could comment on october, or the months following the WSOP, being perhaps a slower month(s) than most for them? Or is this a recent phenomenom?
The Casinos have been booming more now, then then a few years ago. At least where I play at it's like taht.
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no the poker boom is not deadnow we find out who the loyalists arethis new legislation will not be a deterrent to devout poker playersthe masses of donkified noob trash will diminish but that suits me just fineFull Tilt's traffic is off the hook since they announced their committment to basically shove it up Bill Frists *** and I expect Stars to follow.I think the 'boom' from a mainstream perspective.. has probably peaked, but I would still expect MORE players in next years WSOP main event...which is a pretty good thermometer for the pulse of pokers overall appeal in general.the question is... will all these sites still be sending hundreds of qualifiers to the main event ?? I dunno maybe we have 'peaked'We just crowned a new WSOP champ not even 6 weeks ago...poker is still RED HOT.. lets let things calm down and see what direction this industry is headedcertainly not 'dead' though...not even close

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