How Would You Play It

[Kevin Garceau 0]

I took this from our local "league" discussion board here in Wisconsin.Sorry I dont have all the info regarding position etc, but given the info what do you do? Of course we probably play the game a little different than most of these folks but just interested in opinions.This is a 1/2 cash game, live.

$22 dollar pot pre-flop. 4 players in the hand. holding 5-4 h. Flop: Ad - Jh - 3h. Ollie is first to act and goes all-in for 38 dollars. Call or not to call?

[runthemover 39]

well it's ollie. you know how he plays

[blazerp0410 0]

$38 to win $60....no...not unless you wanna gamble.

[simo_8ball 0]

well it's ollie. you know how he plays

LolTo OP - post this in strat if you actually want some good answers. Given the vague details offered, this is a call.

[AK33 0]

I took this from our local "league" discussion board here in Wisconsin.Sorry I dont have all the info regarding position etc, but given the info what do you do? Of course we probably play the game a little different than most of these folks but just interested in opinions.This is a 1/2 cash game, live.

Like it was already mentioned, you need to call 38 to win 60. You are getting about 1.5 to 1 and you have a hand that could be anywhere from a toss up to 2 to 1 so a call might not be a bad play. Against AK you're almost even money, against top two it's about 1.5 to 1, and agaist a set it's 2:1. This is a live game so it would really depend on how this guy plays, what kind of hands does he make this kind of move with? Also, I would consider where you are with relation to other players still left to act, if there are loose players behind you that would call this down with hearts then it's an automatic fold, if you are last to act then it comes down to your read.

[ckbandit 0]

Against AK you're almost even money, against top two it's about 1.5 to 1, and agaist a set it's 2:1.

You could easily be up against Ax hearts in which case you're drawing to your gutshot or runners. If you hit your flush, it still may not be best, so that must be taken into consideration when figuring outs.

[AK33 0]

You could easily be up against Ax hearts in which case you're drawing to your gutshot or runners. If you hit your flush, it still may not be best, so that must be taken into consideration when figuring outs.

Good point. I just think someone would be less likely to move all in with Ax of hearts in this case but again we don't know if he's first to act or what, all depends on the player. Moral = What is your read?

[dansheetz 0]

Yes, you're right... "someone" is very much more less likely to move in with Ax of hearts.Someone please kill this thread.

Good point. I just think someone would be less likely to move all in with Ax of hearts in this case but again we don't know if he's first to act or what, all depends on the player. Moral = What is your read?

[Dratj 0]

call. almost a coin flip. assuming nobody behind you reraises.

[KoRnholio 2]

assuming nobody behind you reraises.

Exactly. Two live players left to act behind us makes this a fold IMO.

[quadaces 0]

$38 to win $60....no...not unless you wanna gamble.

Could be drawing dead to runner runner or to a non heart 2

[CBass1724 1]

Let it go, wait for another opportunity.

[TheCorporation3 0]

Get a good read on Ollie, then call or fold. I always hate when Ollie goes all in, he's a crazy player.

[rwood 0]

this could definitely be a strat postship it

[Hawk 0]

5, 4 of hearts shouldnt even have been in there to begin with. Why, you ask? Because then your faced with questions like this thread.

[DB10-2 0]

or, more to the point, if you're going to play 5h4h, raise preflop and make sure ollie has a real hand if he's in the pot.

[simo_8ball 0]

I'll put it in Family Guy terms:DID YOU CHECK YOUR TCP/IP SETTINGS!?Yes Ollie.ENABLED COOKIES!?Yes I did Ollie.YOU WANT THIS DOG!?No thankyou Ollie.YOU GONNA FOLD YOUR 54 SUITED!?No Ollie.

[MychCumstien 0]

"How would you play it?"I wouldn't. I would have folded it preflop.I would also fold on the flop since I'm behind, and only getting 1.5 to one on my money, chasing a baby flush and gutshot straight draw. Even if I make my hand, I may be beat by a higher flush.Bottom line, I wouldn't have called the preflop raise that was necessary to generate a 22 dollar pot with 54s. It's a drawing hand. Draws are death in NL, save 54s for limit holdem, unless you can limp in late position with many callers.

[simo_8ball 0]

I wouldn't have called the preflop raise that was necessary to generate a 22 dollar pot with 54s. It's a drawing hand. Draws are death in NL, save 54s for limit holdem

What?

[ripptyde 0]

Draws are death in NL