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[bmwmcoupe 0]

i wish you all the best honestly. I dont think you deserve the kinda heat you have received,

[zimmer4141 0]

This is a bullsh*t response, and as others before me have said, he is only sorry because he got caught. He is still young, but that is hardly an excuse. I'm younger than him, and I would never think of this. I think that this is an example of people my age viewing online poker more as a game rather than containing real money. We all played Monopoly and stuff as a kid, and you would always try everything you could to get an edge. He extended this out to something involving hundreds of thousands of dollars, and that is dispicable.

[Vatche 0]

lmao. remember our phil hellmuth inpersonator?- Jordan

no impersonator will ever top Matt Damon...speedz and i dont get along too well but i got to give him credit on that one.

[chester97 0]

i'm suprised pokerstars gave him any of his money back. the whole paragraph on "i don't think party handled it the right way" is completely bunk. the times when he did win money legitamately are completely meaningless because of the crap he pulled. party did the right thing, and pokerstars should've followed that lead.

[towerguy 0]

I said I was sorry but seriously, haven't I suffered enough? Party took $100,000 from me. Besides, you don't even know me.

Sorry for what you did or sorry for getting caught?There is a difference.

[zimmer4141 0]

I also think that he should be fortunate this type of thing happened online. If this happened in any casino, he would've had all his money confiscated, and probably gotten an ass_whuppin to go along with it.

[Wandigo 1]

Z, how come you never approved my myspace comments?

[srblan 0]

all PR...this is a effing joke"i didnt know it was unethical"????riiiiiiiiiiiiighti wish party would go public with any time that he was at the same table with himself.

Reminds me of a Dave Chapelle standup routine where Dave is with a guy who's driving drunk and gets pulled over for racing. He tells the cop "I didn't know that you weren't supposed to do that."If he didn't think it was unethical, why did he think it was that the only way he could do it was by exploiting a bug?

[krup24 0]

I said I was sorry but seriously, haven't I suffered enough? Party took $100,000 from me. Besides, you don't even know me.

You make yourself public and now ur paying the priceA lifetime ban would be and acceptable punishment

[crocd99 0]

This is a bullsh*t response, and as others before me have said, he is only sorry because he got caught. He is still young, but that is hardly an excuse. I'm younger than him, and I would never think of this. I think that this is an example of people my age viewing online poker more as a game rather than containing real money. We all played Monopoly and stuff as a kid, and you would always try everything you could to get an edge. He extended this out to something involving hundreds of thousands of dollars, and that is dispicable.

i am not gonna lie... i have cheated in monopoly before. only because i was two older brothers and i could never beat them. so one day they let me be that banker and i ******* ppppppwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn their asses.anyway back to the topic. i really think he thought it was ok. i really do. there is no way you would leave 100k in your party poker account if you knew you were doing something wrong with the money.eventhough he didnt know it was wrong, what he did was still wrong and he needs to be punished for it. and i like party's punishment. just take 100k cause that stings. the stars 3k and the sites banning doenst really hurt or make him learn because 3k probably isnt much to him and there are so many sites out there that a bann from one or two does nothing.

[Jeepster80125 0]

I said I was sorry but seriously, haven't I suffered enough? Party took $100,000 from me. Besides, you don't even know me.

I am assuming that you are the ZeeJustinYou need to realize that you are a cheater. This is something that you did on purpose, in order to make money for yourself. You can not sit here and try to make anyone believe that you had good intentions. I think that you tried to exploit a bug in the system that you found. Like someone already said, SNGs wouldn't allow the type of behavior that you displayed.Answer me this. If the amount was $100, then would you still be complaining? If you still had a hundred grand in the bank, would you still post this crap? We both know that the only reason you are upset is that you lost $100,000, which might not have been yours anyway. You sit and state that that money was earned honestly. Sorry son, but no one knows when you started cheating and how much money you made doing so. I am glad that i never lost money to you. Expensive lesson for you to learn little grass hopper.

[ColeSLaw 0]

Regardless of his guilt, I would fight tooth and nail if I were in his shoes to get the money back. I expect most people would.

[nell789 0]

I agree that he does seem to feel bad, but he also has little clues in there that makes me think, he feels this way just cuz he got caught and missing the money. Says how he didn't think this was wrong at first...come on...have a little common sense. You obviously couldn't do this live (without cloning) so obvously it's wrong to do it online. also later in his blog, he puts it out there on where the line is, saying that obviously SNG's are wrong but where do you draw that line...lolGuess he should of withdrawn a little more of that 100k

You aren't very good at reading are you?

[PokerMirate 0]

This just seems like a more eloquent version of the hastily made posts that he made in response to the incident a few months ago. However, I am glad that in getting caught he realized that cheating is unethical. But I am curious if he no longer believes that any advantage was negated if he opened up more tables if he ended up at the same table as one of his other identities in a tourney. If he no longer does than why did he say it in the first place?Also, found it interesting that he doesn't actually apologize for cheating, just for letting people down. Unless I missed it somewhere in the middle, boy can he get longwinded, I only saw an apology in the first paragraph for letting people down.

I said I was sorry but seriously, haven't I suffered enough? Party took $100,000 from me. Besides, you don't even know me.

Humility isn't a strong aspect of your character is it?

[pocket3s 0]

WTF?? Come on seriously guys, if you cheat and get caught you pay the price. But you guys are acting like he did something unbelievably sinister. So he played in a tourney as 4-6 people, I agree this is wrong, but what kind of edge is this? You go from having a 1 percent chance to a 4 percent chance in a 100 man tourney, wow. If there was no risk of getting caught, I think 80 percent of people would do this(please don't chime in if you wouldn't, I really don't give a $hit). It's wrong, he paid MORE than he deserved, so get off your freaking high horses. This guy didn't steal from you, this incident doesn't hurt the game, so stfu and move on.

[zimmer4141 0]

WTF?? Come on seriously guys, if you cheat and get caught you pay the price. But you guys are acting like he did something unbelievably sinister. So he played in a tourney as 4-6 people, I agree this is wrong, but what kind of edge is this? You go from having a 1 percent chance to a 4 percent chance in a 100 man tourney, wow. If there was no risk of getting caught, I think 80 percent of people would do this(please don't chime in if you wouldn't, I really don't give a $hit). It's wrong, he paid MORE than he deserved, so get off your freaking high horses. This guy didn't steal from you, this incident doesn't hurt the game, so stfu and move on.

This incident does hurt the game. This was more of a message sent from Party to all other players that this is unacceptable. ZeeJustin happened to be the person who they made an example of, but it had to be somebody. If they gave him back all his money, then why would anyone stop? There will always be other sites to play on.

[ZeeJustin 0]

WTF?? Come on seriously guys, if you cheat and get caught you pay the price. But you guys are acting like he did something unbelievably sinister. So he played in a tourney as 4-6 people, I agree this is wrong, but what kind of edge is this? You go from having a 1 percent chance to a 4 percent chance in a 100 man tourney, wow. If there was no risk of getting caught, I think 80 percent of people would do this(please don't chime in if you wouldn't, I really don't give a $hit). It's wrong, he paid MORE than he deserved, so get off your freaking high horses. This guy didn't steal from you, this incident doesn't hurt the game, so stfu and move on.

Yes, thank you. The last month has been extremely hard for me and I feel that I've grown as a person. I've invested a lot of time into poker and I feel I became very good. I need to play poker and that is why I finally decided to come forward on my website and offer an apology.

[chester97 0]

WTF?? Come on seriously guys, if you cheat and get caught you pay the price. But you guys are acting like he did something unbelievably sinister. So he played in a tourney as 4-6 people, I agree this is wrong, but what kind of edge is this? You go from having a 1 percent chance to a 4 percent chance in a 100 man tourney, wow. If there was no risk of getting caught, I think 80 percent of people would do this(please don't chime in if you wouldn't, I really don't give a $hit). It's wrong, he paid MORE than he deserved, so get off your freaking high horses. This guy didn't steal from you, this incident doesn't hurt the game, so stfu and move on.

in no way does playin as 4 accounts in a tourney only raise your chances that much. he is obviously a very good player from his legitamate results, and having 4 accounts in one tournament is a huge edge. can you imagine if ivey (and no, i'm not comparing him to ivey), got 4 entries into basically any tournament? the entry fee is nothing and his chances are drastically increased.

[mb5322 0]

Yes, thank you. The last month has been extremely hard for me and I feel that I've grown as a person. I've invested a lot of time into poker and I feel I became very good. I need to play poker and that is why I finally decided to come forward on my website and offer an apology.

I don't know why people still care, they took over 100,000 from you, good you cheated. Get on with life, and oh good luck w/ finding another poker room online that will let you play there.

[pocket3s 0]

This incident does hurt the game. This was more of a message sent from Party to all other players that this is unacceptable. ZeeJustin happened to be the person who they made an example of, but it had to be somebody. If they gave him back all his money, then why would anyone stop? There will always be other sites to play on.

Give me one way that it changes anything in a negative way. If anything, it's caused those who might think about cheating to give it a second thought. This game doesn't have any integrity to the general public anyway. If you think it does, tell anybody you know that doesn't play that you're going to do it for a living and watch the response you get. Nobody cares about this except the "Online Poker Community" and all it does is gives us something to rant about.

in no way does playin as 4 accounts in a tourney only raise your chances that much. he is obviously a very good player from his legitamate results, and having 4 accounts in one tournament is a huge edge. can you imagine if ivey (and no, i'm not comparing him to ivey), got 4 entries into basically any tournament? the entry fee is nothing and his chances are drastically increased.

You can't judge and say one player has a better chance to win than another, it might be true, but not something you can calculate. The odds of a player winning a 100 man tourney is 1/100, the odds of one of 4 players winning is 4/100. That's it, that's all. No, "but he's better than most so it improves his odds", his odds are the same as everybody elses.

[chester97 0]

Give me one way that it changes anything in a negative way. If anything, it's caused those who might think about cheating to give it a second thought. This game doesn't have any integrity to the general public anyway. If you think it does, tell anybody you know that doesn't play that you're going to do it for a living and watch the response you get. Nobody cares about this except the "Online Poker Community" and all it does is gives us something to rant about.

yeah, the game never had a great image in the public eye, but something like this just makes it moreso. there were articles written about this and prodigy in non-poker publications. if you want to make this better in the public eye, then crap like this can't happen. poker's rep has gotten much better in the last couple of years with nicer casinos and more regulated tournaments. this is a definite negative.

[PokerMirate 0]

If there was no risk of getting caught, I think 80 percent of people would do this(please don't chime in if you wouldn't, I really don't give a $hit).

It is very nice that you couch your outrageous claim with a statement demanding others to not respond to it so you can't be proven wrong, which there is no doubt you are. Also, your argument is pretty pathetic as it does not matter how many other people would or wouldn't do it, as either way it is wrong, the amount of people participating in the action does not change whether it is against the rules. What ir does bring up is an nice insight into peoples true morals and ethics. the idea of whether someone would commit the perfect murder.The man broke the TOS, what they did was within their rights, case closed. However your statement brings up another interesting point, did ZeeJustin think he would not be caught and therefore began to behave in such a manner or did he truly not think he was cheating/breaking the rules? He seems to claim the latter, but unless he has been extremely sheltered or has the mental maturity of a three year old I find it very hard to believe what he claims.

[FIREonICE 0]

everyone is just hating on Zeejustin because they are jealous. Stop the hate, it's all about faith!

[chester97 0]

Give me one way that it changes anything in a negative way. If anything, it's caused those who might think about cheating to give it a second thought. This game doesn't have any integrity to the general public anyway. If you think it does, tell anybody you know that doesn't play that you're going to do it for a living and watch the response you get. Nobody cares about this except the "Online Poker Community" and all it does is gives us something to rant about.You can't judge and say one player has a better chance to win than another, it might be true, but not something you can calculate. The odds of a player winning a 100 man tourney is 1/100, the odds of one of 4 players winning is 4/100. That's it, that's all. No, "but he's better than most so it improves his odds", his odds are the same as everybody elses.

that shows you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[pocket3s 0]

yeah, the game never had a great image in the public eye, but something like this just makes it moreso. there were articles written about this and prodigy in non-poker publications. if you want to make this better in the public eye, then crap like this can't happen. poker's rep has gotten much better in the last couple of years with nicer casinos and more regulated tournaments. this is a definite negative.

Okay, I'll try to put this in a way you'll understand.To the layman:Poker = Gambling, Gambling = bad, bad = Negative outlookWe know this isn't entirely true, but to the people you are trying to sway, this is all they will ever believe.