I Called In Sick Today

[ajs510 122]

If I ever go to Rochester we're hitting up the Toad. Ok, I'm afraid of meeting anyone in person, so I'll hit up the Toad and write up a trip report.

If I find out that you were in Rochester and didn't give me a chance to buy you a beer, I'll be hurt and saddened.

[El Guapo 8]

If I find out that you were in Rochester and didn't give me a chance to buy you a beer, I'll be hurt and saddened.

And $5 richer, don't forget that.

[CindyLou 11]

LG, I can't believe you think there aren't any pubs in all of America.

[ajs510 122]

Good lord you are being obnoxious. Have you been to Kansas? Lawrence, KS? I am guessing not, so don't make definitive statements about it like that.There is a 'pub' here called the Red Lyon Tavern. It is British style, shows soccer etc. It's not a real pub.As I said before, I didn't mean to say there aren't ANY pubs here, but that there aren't enough. I can't judge your local place and tell you whether it is authentic or not, you have to really visit a pub to get a feel for it. I'm not arguing that there isn't a single genuine one. If yours is then lucky you.

You make a general statement about the fact that there are no UK-style bars in the US, then completely discount every piece of evidence to the contrary, and I'M being obnoxious?Just admit to yourself the fact that nothing is going to be "homey" enough for you unless it's physically located in the Queen's England, and move on.

[LadyGrey 6]

This is the issue. LG, if you ever go to Boston let me know, I'll send you to a number of places that are more pub than bar. There's also the fact that, you know, in America the pub patrons are American for the most part, so the cultural and social atmosphere obviously has to be somewhat different. That doesn't mean it's not a pub, it just means that you aren't as comfortable there. A homey feeling for us might be different than a homey feeling for you.If I ever go to Rochester we're hitting up the Toad. Ok, I'm afraid of meeting anyone in person, so I'll hit up the Toad and write up a trip report.

You guys are so arrogant. I am a very well travelled person (for my age at least). I have been to pubs all over Europe. Those pubs were full of Germans or Dutch etc but they were still pubs. And please don't tell me it's a "European" thing now. You have all assumed I am just looking for a place full of English people even though I never said anything about the type of clientele required to make it a 'real' pub. As I said in my last post, I am sure there are some great authentic places here.

[IQCrash 1]

LG, I can't believe you think there aren't any pubs in all of America.

Gold, as always. Gold.

[LadyGrey 6]

LG, I can't believe you think there aren't any pubs in all of America.

I know right, I'm the most close-minded, obnoxious girl in the whole world. Obviously I just don't understand that the only difference is the people here are American.

[speedz99 145]

I really miss Swinger Saturday. I live in California. Now we have Butt Sex Sundays, it's not as fun, especially if you draw the LONG straw.

I'd rather that than the girthy straw.

Good lord you are being obnoxious. Have you been to Kansas? Lawrence, KS? I am guessing not, so don't make definitive statements about it like that.

I have. And I've been to way more spots in the U.S. than you have, and I can tell you that we're more right about the differences than you are. I like Lawrence, it's a good college town, but that's all it is.

As I said before, I didn't mean to say there aren't ANY pubs here, but that there aren't enough. I can't judge your local place and tell you whether it is authentic or not, you have to really visit a pub to get a feel for it. I'm not arguing that there isn't a single genuine one. If yours is then lucky you.

What are you, homesick?

If I find out that you were in Rochester and didn't give me a chance to buy you a beer, I'll be hurt and saddened.

I'd rather hurt and saddened than homicidal and thinking-about-the-best-way-to-dispose-of-my-body after I say something offensive.How far is Rochester from Ithica?

[ajs510 122]

I'd rather hurt and saddened than homicidal and thinking-about-the-best-way-to-dispose-of-my-body after I say something offensive.How far is Rochester from Ithica?

90 miles, give or take. I'm a much more easygoing person in real life, and I've never actually killed, hidden or otherwise disappeared anyone.

[IQCrash 1]

I'm a much more easygoing person in real life, and I've never actually killed, hidden or otherwise disappeared anyone.

Exactly what a homicidal killer would say.

[ajs510 122]

Exactly what a homicidal killer would say.

Shh.

[speedz99 145]

You guys are so arrogant. I am a very well travelled person (for my age at least). I have been to pubs all over Europe. Those pubs were full of Germans or Dutch etc but they were still pubs. And please don't tell me it's a "European" thing now. You have all assumed I am just looking for a place full of English people even though I never said anything about the type of clientele required to make it a 'real' pub. As I said in my last post, I am sure there are some great authentic places here.

Of course it's a European thing. And I'm not disagreeing with you about the fact that most bars here aren't pubs. But you're drastically underestimating it based on your limited experience in this country. I'm happy that you're well travelled in Europe, but that really doesn't mean anything when we're talking about the fact that even if the one "pub" in Lawrence, KS doesn't pass your test, you might be a little more wrong than you think about the country as a whole. You're calling us obnoxious and arrogant, but that just makes you sound very, very young considering what you're currently trying to tell us.

[DOG 0]

What are you, on the rag?

fyp

[LadyGrey 6]

Of course it's a European thing. And I'm not disagreeing with you about the fact that most bars here aren't pubs. But you're drastically underestimating it based on your limited experience in this country. I'm happy that you're well travelled in Europe, but that really doesn't mean anything when we're talking about the fact that even if the one "pub" in Lawrence, KS doesn't pass your test, you might be a little more wrong than you think about the country as a whole. You're calling us obnoxious and arrogant, but that just makes you sound very, very young considering what you're currently trying to tell us.

I've been to Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Scottsdale AZ, Flagstaff (wherever that is), San Diego, New York, Kansas City, Lawrence obv., Omaha, and just recently was in Tennessee. Not saying I went out and did the bar scene everywhere I went, but it's not like I've only been to Kansas. I've seen many different cities in the US.You guys sure are arguing a lot about your local pubs being 'real' despite most of you never having been to the UK.

[mk 11]

as if my mancrush on robert downey jr. needed inflating, his comment after being nominated:"It's about time narcissistic, accolade-seeking, idiotic actors were formally recognized. It's been a long, hard road for us."

[Quacktastic 106]

I didn't mean to say that you don't have any pubs here in the U.S., there are plenty of fake pubs and also places like sports bars. Anyone who has spent time in England (and I don't mean just a week or two on holiday) will understand the difference. Also, IQ I have been living in the U.S. for over 6 months, I don't need strat to tell me what it's like here.

Pubs don't have pub stools either, just an open area at the bar to order your lukewarm bitter beer.Pubs are also great for getting locals to look at you like a traiter entering "their" pub.You don't need more than a couple nights in England to see the difference. A local hole in the wall is the american version of the english pub, or vice versa.

[Piddle Duck 0]

You guys sure are arguing a lot about your local pubs being 'real' despite most of you never having been to the UK.

That's a nice assumption...I have been to the UK/Scotland twice. For a total of 6 weeks.I lived in Denmark for 5 months.

[IQCrash 1]

The patriotism in this thread is awesome today.LG should hate America more often.

[Quacktastic 106]

That's a nice assumption...I have been to the UK/Scotland twice. For a total of 6 weeks.I lived in Denmark for 5 months.

Easy champ, most does not = allThey try to offer you chips again today?

[JubilantLankyLad 1,957]

I'd rather that than the girthy straw.

nice.LG, you may have to come up with some examples of what makes a pub a pub, rather than just saying that (most) american pubs just don't have 'it'. Also, you started this convo by stating that pubs are like strip clubs without the naked girls. That doesn't sound like fun to me at all - black lights, overpriced drinks, lots of curtains and hallways that go to little sorta semi-private alcoves, loud dance music, and a cover charge is not my idea of home away from home. But hey, I've never been to England, maybe I don't know what makes a good pub.

[ajs510 122]

I've been to Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Scottsdale AZ, Flagstaff (wherever that is), San Diego, New York, Kansas City, Lawrence obv., Omaha, and just recently was in Tennessee. Not saying I went out and did the bar scene everywhere I went, but it's not like I've only been to Kansas. I've seen many different cities in the US.You guys sure are arguing a lot about your local pubs being 'real' despite most of you never having been to the UK.

And exactly how old where you during these extensive travels around our fair country? It's tough to get a good sense of the local bar scene when they throw you out for being underage everywhere but college towns.

[Piddle Duck 0]

Easy champ, most does not = allThey try to offer you chips again today?

I have said nothing contrary to what the others have said and I have some experience going to that special land called Europe. No, I have a tooth ache.

[speedz99 145]

I've been to Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Scottsdale AZ, Flagstaff (wherever that is), San Diego, New York, Kansas City, Lawrence obv., Omaha, and just recently was in Tennessee. Not saying I went out and did the bar scene everywhere I went, but it's not like I've only been to Kansas. I've seen many different cities in the US.

That's cool...but kind of irrelevant since the bar scene is what we're talking about. I can totally agree that when walking into a random bar there's a MUCH lower chance in the US that it's a pub. But I still think you're underestimating it by a good chunk, because in most decent sized cities in this country I bet you could ask around for 2 minutes and find a few spots that you'd give the LG stamp of pubby approval.But in most small towns you won't be able to find one. Whatever, I don't think we disagree that much.

You guys sure are arguing a lot about your local pubs being 'real' despite most of you never having been to the UK.

I've been. Just saying...you might be making an assumption when you say "most". Maybe.But I think we're also saying that you don't get to decide which pubs are 'real'. No offense, but a light-drinking vegetarian isn't really a drinking establishment guru. If a pub to you is a quiet place that serves plenty of veg, we might all be barking up the wrong tree.

as if my mancrush on robert downey jr. needed inflating, his comment after being nominated:"It's about time narcissistic, accolade-seeking, idiotic actors were formally recognized. It's been a long, hard road for us."

That's awesome.

[CindyLou 11]

LG, I think it's time you started a new thread called "The Pub." You know, a place where you can spend the whole day posting in the pub with your your friends and it starts to feel like a second home. It's like the sick thread without all the creepy old perverts and argumentative Americans.

[speedz99 145]

LG, I think it's time you started a new thread called "The Pub." You know, a place where you can spend the whole day posting in the pub with your your friends and it starts to feel like a second home. It's like the sick thread without all the creepy old perverts and argumentative Americans.

To be fair, she's an argumentative Brit, which is what makes it a perfect match. The fact that she's female, younger than us, and has absolutely nobody to back her up is what makes it even better. Maybe we should all call a truce before LG goes the way of Miss Idaho and her copy room.