Keep Players In?

[grgimpy 0]

Full Tilt PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $3/$68 playersConverterPre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG with k :icon_suit_heart: t :icon_suit_heart: Hero calls, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.Flop: 6 :icon_suit_heart: t :icon_suit_spade: j :icon_suit_heart: (10SB, 5 players)SB bets, BB callsShould I just call here and keep the rest of the gang in to build a big pot, or raise and try to hit or maybe even steal the pot if i don't.

[Actuary 3]

RaiseAINEC.I'll battle Screech or any of you other suckers on this.- big pot (raised preflop 5 handed)- huge equity (2nd NFD, MP+K kicker, bdsd)- two already in, enough to raise for valueIt's win/win. Good if they fold, good if they call.

[AlphaOmega 0]

Yea, Actuary got it.The pot is already big enough (others may come along even if we raise) and we already have an equity edge versus two other players in the pot.Raise that mother.

[cu in 4years Dan 1]

im raising in this spot

[screech 0]

RaiseAINEC.I'll battle Screech or any of you other suckers on this.- big pot (raised preflop 5 handed)- huge equity (2nd NFD, MP+K kicker, bdsd)- two already in, enough to raise for valueIt's win/win. Good if they fold, good if they call.

You can't battle me. I agree.

[bobonic 0]

and reraise if they let you

[CobaltBlue 662]

Full Tilt PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $3/$68 playersConverterPre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG with k :icon_suit_heart: t :icon_suit_heart: Hero calls, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.Flop: 6 :icon_suit_heart: t :icon_suit_spade: j :icon_suit_heart: (10SB, 5 players)SB bets, BB calls

Fold pre-flop.

[grgimpy 0]

Fold pre-flop.

I don't think so. This is small stakes hold'em we are talking about.

[Actuary 3]

Fold pre-flop.

only if game is tight aggressive.So you always play this for 2-3 bets preflop and usually <4 people.imo.

[CobaltBlue 662]

only if game is tight aggressive.

trap hands super-OOP = suckageIf we're in MP, I really don't mind it as much. Also, no table read was given. From what I understand, Full Tilt tables are relatively TAG. If I'm wrong and everyone's playing LAP pre-flop...I guess it's not as bad, but I still don't like it.

[Actuary 3]

trap hands super-OOP = suckageIf we're in MP, I really don't mind it as much. Also, no table read was given. From what I understand, Full Tilt tables are relatively TAG. If I'm wrong and everyone's playing LAP pre-flop...I guess it's not as bad, but I still don't like it.

trap hands and Suited Broadway in a 4+ person pot is an oxymoron.hey, just go win another tourney and leave me alone! I'm trying to build a reputation here.

[CobaltBlue 662]

trap hands and Suited Broadway in a 4+ person pot is an oxymoron.

But we don't have any indication of how this pot is going to develop UTG. That's the point.After the flop...fine...I'm with y'all. Raise it up. I just don't like this hand in this spot.

[Actuary 3]

nm

[Zach6668 513]

Man, I might raise this UTG. I have no problem with limping it either, though.- Zach

[Bobby Bring-in 0]

I guess i'm the only one with cobalt here. I definately toss this hand preflop UTG. The raise behind me after i limped with that would make me sick. It stacks up horribly to a raising hand, no idea how many people will see this flop and we are out of position throughout.

[rog 0]

I'd fold this preflop too. If it's likley to be 5 handed playing it for 2 bets, I like the limp. Even though that's what we got here, I dont think it was even close to the most likely outcome at 3/6. Yeah, raise the flop.

[doubleatrain 0]

Playing this hand is definitely table dependent, but theoretically I'd say the OP has more of an idea of how the table was playing when he decided to limp with this hand than any of us. Just because it's 3/6 doesn't necessarily mean that the table conditions weren't right for it. (Don't get me wrong, I don't play 3/6, so this may be a standard fold, but I also think it's gotta still be possible to find loose/passive tables at 3/6 on up).After that, though, definitely raise the flop (though I don't know how much that's being questioned anymore).

[MasterLJ 0]

Raise.Your chance to make your flush is set: 36%36% of the time you can win $XOr 36% of the time you can win $2X(oversimplified, but you get the point)Dunno about you, but I'm going with $2X. Not to mention you build both fold equity and the right to call bets on the turn due to larger pot odds.

[spikymarv99 0]

Full Tilt PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $3/$68 playersConverterPre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG with k :icon_suit_heart: t :icon_suit_heart: Hero calls, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.Flop: 6 :icon_suit_heart: t :icon_suit_spade: j :icon_suit_heart: (10SB, 5 players)SB bets, BB callsShould I just call here and keep the rest of the gang in to build a big pot, or raise and try to hit or maybe even steal the pot if i don't.

I face this situation all the time and like always it depends. You have a VERY strong draw right now. A part of you wants to build the pot with alot of callers, but then your not taking the lead in the hand. You want action with this hand, but based on the texture of the flop I would call. The reason is simple: the pre-flop raiser might 3 bet it and then you can cap it and bloat the pot with your hand. If he just calls you built your pot anyway. You want as many players in the pot as possible right now. You get the best of both worlds.

[Pancake407 0]

I face this situation all the time and like always it depends. You have a VERY strong draw right now. A part of you wants to build the pot with alot of callers, but then your not taking the lead in the hand. You want action with this hand, but based on the texture of the flop I would call. The reason is simple: the pre-flop raiser might 3 bet it and then you can cap it and bloat the pot with your hand. If he just calls you built your pot anyway. You want as many players in the pot as possible right now. You get the best of both worlds.

You meant to say youd raise right?

[spikymarv99 0]

You meant to say youd raise right?

I would call. Hopefully the pre-flop raiser will re-raise and I can cap. If everyone calls through, the pot has been built anyway. I just don't want people folding right now. If you think the players will cold-call a threebet, then by all means raise. I'm advocating whichever line will get the most money in the pot on the flop. Anyone disagree that you want as much money as possible in on the flop?

[Actuary 3]

this is bad, imo.We want to try to win the pot now, by protecting our hand and raisingIf all fold thats great.

[Pancake407 0]

its a big pot, one worth fighting for. with a hand like this, middle pair/fd, you really should raise. It's a win-win situation, if they call, awesome, it builds the pot, if they fold, thats cool too because it increases your winning chances.clear cut easy raise.