gus hansen is the king,

[hotdog da 2rd 0]

u know what they call .50/1 players in casinos?? railbirdsu know what they call them outside casinos?? panhandlersi'm just joking around...lol.....gus hasen sucks!! sell ur house and go take his money!!! remember to bring along a sleeping bag for the park.

[Awful 0]

So you clear 120K a year from cleaning up horses? Congrats. I'm glad you have a rich dad who could set up his worthless, poorly adjusted son with a job with his horse-racing buddy. Now, given those advantages and how nice it must be to be you, why are you here being such a retard, full of bile, spite and airs of superiority when none of it matters, and lashing out against positive contributors or actual answers to your questions?You can't buy class. Or brains. Or a sense of humor. Or credibility. I guess that means I win, regardless of my current or future earnings.(edited so I'm sounding less like you; I realized my initial attempt to parody your behavior would look hollow and hypocritical to the uninformed)

[jakoye 0]

kdawg, when did i ever say i was better than anyone on here, just commented that smash was giving advice and seeking to give advice to some people that wasnt needed and you and all the other groupies start whining. I am no better than anyone on here(except maybe wrto) and have never claimed to be just wanted to state an opinion about smash and has lead to all of this

Lay off the kid, man. He's made very valuable posts on here and seems to have a pretty good handle on how to play, something you haven't demonstrated at all. wrto is an asset to this board... you're just an a-s-s.

[jayistheman 0]

http://www.barrygreenstein.com/hlederer.htmthis discusses the lederer "tightness" issue

[KDawgCometh 2]

wrto is an asset to this board... you're just an a-s-s.

seriously I didn't start to get really annoyed untiol he started to go after Wrto ans Smash needlessly. Both have contributed in a positive way and this dude tries to hit below the belt by raggin on Wrto's blog. If you don't wanna read the blog, then don't read. If you rag on it then you actually took the time and intrest to read. I can see flaming someone if they send out the first barb, if not then why bother is what I say

[jakoye 0]

wrto is an asset to this board... you're just an a-s-s.

seriously I didn't start to get really annoyed untiol he started to go after Wrto ans Smash needlessly. Both have contributed in a positive way and this dude tries to hit below the belt by raggin on Wrto's blog. If you don't wanna read the blog, then don't read. If you rag on it then you actually took the time and intrest to read. I can see flaming someone if they send out the first barb, if not then why bother is what I say

Yeah. And why would somebody want to make fun of a kid who's trying to make a living off poker (not yet, but in the future)? Seems like any poker player w/o a stick up his a-s-s would be inspired by that and supportive of wrto's effort. Or pound on Smash, who's been very generous with his solid advice AND is guaranteed to submit posts full of mirth and humor (my favorite was "fold like France in 1940"!).Really, this dude is such a troglodyte and he commits what I think is the cardinal sin of posting: he's not funny.The fact that he's just a stable cleaner is somehow so fitting.

[faketree 0]

The way for the top guys to beat gus is to see more flops and then outplay get their money in when they have the best of it, much less chance of sucking out. yet the problem with that is gus like juanda and a few others rely HEAVILY on their preflop game and always try to take down pots without seeing flops, thats why a majority of gus' hands are all ins before the flop and thats where he makes a habit of outdrawing people. id say at least 6 out of the 8 at superstars are superior to hansen post flop thats why he plays them sooooo strong preflop as he knows thats where he has the advantage and also that they want to take flops against him. Thats why its easy to see why he is considered the fish in the big game because it is mainly post flop play which is why daniel knows he can beat the game since that is his specialty!!

this couldn't be further from the truth. if you've watched any of gus's appearances besides last night, you see that the majority of his play is post-flop. this guy loves taking flops and outplaying everyone else after the flop. that is his strength. just like daniel. in fact, the only difference i see between daniel and gus is that gus will call and all-in with a marginal hand. both daniel and gus will raise UTG with 46s but gus will call a huge all-in raise with it....sometimes! not all the time. just sometimes. there is clearly some method to his madness and a lot of that has to do with the image he is trying to project. i think gus is willing to pay lots of money in order to get the kind of image he needs at the table. and that is fine if he can make it work, which he does. but to say he relies heavily on his pre-flop play is just insane. if he cared so much about his hand preflop, he wouldn't play marginal hands. hes comfortable playing flops against anyone. and he will lay down. i remember specifically in one of the poker superstars episodes, he laid down a straight flush draw on the flop to howards all in bet. i mean, it just seemed lke an easy call for someone like gus but he laid it down. very surprising. he knows what he is doing.true, we haven't seen howard at a final table on tv in a while. but he is still making them, and plenty. you read news and blogs all over the internet about other tourneys and so many of them have the sentence, 'so i was at the table with this person, this person, howard lederer, this person, etc.' howard may not regularly play in the big game, but he is one of the people that was chosen by the corporation to play against andy beal in the $100k/$200k heads up limit hold'em game. he is just that good at limit. apparently him and jennifer harmon are the top ranked limit players around.basically, both of these guys are much better than anybody on here and thats is all there is to it.

[JFarrell20 1]

its actually in sports management if you ask and once again wasnt using it as a tool, just trying to justify another retards comments. Only went their for a year and am not even using the degree as i said am now an assistant horse trainer to doug o'neill.

Sports degree?! LOL. That sounds tough! Who the F is Doug O'Neill? Nobody cares. That is like the second time you've said his name. You use his name to "brag", yet you don't respect the dude enough to capitalize the first letters of his name? You are the first person I've met from USC, therefore, I have dubbed the school the "University of Stupid C0cksuckers."Good luck scoring with those So Cal Hookers. Please...stay away from that horse you work with. Not cool, man.

[JistTheFist 0]

no joke... I hope this thread dies real quickly.... I have not seen a single post by wrto or smash that I haven't agreed with for the most part.... there may be a few plays that I might do a little differently but I also have a pretty unconventional style.... I would compare my style of play more to the likes of gus and daniel then lederer or chan. every post I've read by wrto has been informative, constructive, and meant to give advice to a player who asks of it....every post I've seen by mr. no-nuts... has been $hit-talking, worthless, "I have to make fun of you to make myself feel better", 5th grade drama, "I clean horse $hit for 10K a month", "hey heres a list of how much money I make as if anybody here gives a $hit"how old are you mr. no-nuts? you sound like my 8 year old brother. what limits do you play? no you know what? don't answer that... cuz I don't give a $hit.... I still think wrto is probably a better player than you. who cares if he plays .5/1? not me... cuz I know the plays he decides on have been the best every post I've read by him.... I haven't even read apoker related post by you... just "I'm better than you guys, I'm smarter than you guys, I make more money than you guys.I'd rather be friends with a poor bastard than a rich p-r-i-c-k...... dude.... I really liked this forum (and I still do for the most part) because it was so constructive.,... we were all here to help people any way we could... and to better ourselves when we needed it... you're here to make yourself feel special....

[JFarrell20 1]

If Doug O'Neill has any brains whatsoever, he will fire you real soon. It sounds like you just started anyway...with all the bragging about pulling in 130K/year which is like 60K/year for those of us who live outside of LA. You'd better watch out or someone may copy your posts and email them to DOUG O'NEILL and he will see what kind of a d0uchebag you really are.There's nothing wrong with grinding out at .5/1 bro. Just because you don't have a non-poker bankroll to blow on coke and penis cream, doesn't mean you aren't good at poker.

[Chip_and_a_Chair 0]

hahaha graduated from usc' date=' and im arguing with someone who has is own blog about .50/1 hold em and thinks people actually care.[ quote']Do you mean to tell me that I -- with a 99th-percentile SAT score and top 5 class rank -- got wait-listed at USC so that they could fill my spot with a holier-than-thou schmuck who uses cutdowns to "support" his arguments? I weep for the university system. Maybe if I inflate my ego and throw grammar, manners and logic to the wind, I, too, can be a Trojan man. Unless you mean University of South Carolina, in which case you'd be a fighting c-o-c-k.

[joshrogo 0]

I can only imagine that this was the witty, thought provoking stuff daniel was hoping for when this forum began ..intelligent, lucid, poker discussion ...

[Chip_and_a_Chair 0]

I can only imagine that this was the witty, thought provoking stuff daniel was hoping for when this forum began ..intelligent, lucid, poker discussion ...

People who mess with Gus Hansen bring out the worst in me.

[KDawgCometh 2]

I'm gonna bring it back to where it should be, about gus. There is a lot of criticism on gus going in taking the worst of it. Well here's the thing, it's right out of Doyle's own playbook and who here is gonna be raggin on Doyle, exactly. Gus started with a good chip stack whereas Barry in the first case didn't have a big chip stack, so gus used his chips to move barry in. Doyle talks in the first SS about stealing blinds and antes to build up a stack and so when someone pushes in he can call with a dog hand because the money is "free". He will win enough of the time to where he then has a really big stack and can push around even more, and take another dog hand and see what happens. People used to say that Doyle was soooo lucky by hitting those dog hands, and they would see the dog hands and give him a lot of action when he had a monster and then he could do even more damage. See how this can turn into a very vicious cycle for those involved in the game with someone who is playiing this style successfully. On the Q10 hand that Gus callled Ivey's all-in with he had a mountain of chips, so the relative odds very much dictated that he call

[jogsxyz 0]

http://www.barrygreenstein.com/hlederer.htmthis discusses the lederer "tightness" issue

Greenstein doesn't have a category for getting action as an attribute. This is where Hansen is strong. He gets action and players make mistakes against him.Let's say you have 20XBB in chips in the big blind. UTG opens for 4XBB. You hold A5o. If the UTG were Lederer or Hellmuth, you would fold without thinking. Now if the UTG were Hansen. You have an irresistible urge to go all in.Hansen's style throws other players off their normal game. Even if Hansen's ability is only a 6, his opponents' ability drops many notches while playing against him. It's the relative difference that counts.

[generalkefka 0]

I watched it on t.v. last night also (prior to the SB) and was amazed that Chan didn't go all in and the smaller straight to Hansen's higher straight, what a good call even though he ended up losing. And Hansen catching the 10 on the river was quite discouraging, but Hansen is where he is not by luck, everyone gets lucky.

[faketree 0]

Wait. I missed yesterdays broadcast. Did Gus only win $1 million for a $400k buy in? Doesn't seem right.Anyone have more info or a weblink for payouts for this tourney?

[KDawgCometh 2]

yes, he won "only" a million, but bragging rights go along with this and that might count for more in this case. I loved this tourny, how can you not, eight of the best players out there playing a lot so that its not some one and done deal

[faketree 0]

yes, he won "only" a million, but bragging rights go along with this and that might count for more in this case. I loved this tourny, how can you not, eight of the best players out there playing a lot so that its not some one and done deal

LOL. I obviously meant 'only' a million with regards to the buy-in. I know this touney was run in multiple stages and only single tables but that just seems like a lot of time and effort just to double up (little more) the buy-in. God knows if I paid $20 for a tourney like this and played many tables and invested lots of time, I'd be pissed if I only got $50 for winning the whole thing.Maybe this has something to do with what Daniel said and why the players and the orgranizers couldn't come up with a deal. Apparently the second season of this tournament didn't get off the ground. Anyone know more about this?

[KDawgCometh 2]

I know that you were refrencing the original buy in. I think that they were paid out in spots in the previous rounds. Everyone got paid in some form. I was really happy with the final two as I thought that Johnny, Chip, and Gus played the best through out

[CoolHandLaw 0]

This thread is exactly what makes Gus such a great player...no one here has been able to put a solid finger on his playing style. You can call him lucky, you can call him a man of math, you can call him reckless, loose, hyper-aggressive, or what have you. The one thing you can't do is pin him to any hand at any time, and he'll make you pay for it. I respect his style of play, though I could never do that...the mans got balls

[Guest XXEddie]

ya he outplayed doyle in that one hand but calling with q10 and j10 is just recklass.

thats what makes gus.....gus....his reckless style which is very hard to adapt to for the regualr pro

[MrConceit 0]

hahaha graduated from usc, and im arguing with someone who has is own blog about .50/1 hold em and thinks people actually care. i guess that does make me stupid enough that i would argue with someone of your calibur and actually think you would understand but i know im definitely not the STUPIDEST in this conversation.

What did you graduat in? Probably not poker. Do you want to talk college and SAT or poker? Either one I feel comfortable talking about. Don't get so defensive...i'm not here to make you look stupid, it just happened.

This is my favorite diss (and one that was needed to be given) I've read in a few days. Yay WRTO!

[Guest Anonymous]

booooooooo. Good players give Gus alot of respect. Did you see the exit interviews the players gave in response to gus, if they gave him soo much respect why u think they come over top of him with a5, a9, etc. that is clearly not respect. Coming from someone who plays .50/1 wrto, i understand why you agree with his calling all in reraises with j10 off and q10 off.

GREAT COMMENT NUTS WRTO IS AN IDIOT .50-1.00 player typical response

[KDawgCometh 2]

GREAT COMMENT NUTS WRTO IS AN IDIOT .50-1.00 player typical response

Damn Dude, can't you do anything but rag on people. What is your party name, I'll look for you