Vatche 0 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 i know every1 on this forum has seen rounders a 100 times(including myself)....but, theres a collectors eddition out there that has commentering by chan, helmuth moneymaker, and ferguson...its not that new so im sure some of u already know about it, but thought i would put it out there for the rest who didnt know about it...they actually analyze the hands played and talk about other cool stuff like loaning money, you get a lot of good stories from them...its deffinitely worth checkn out. Link to post Share on other sites
Oziumrules 0 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I got it when it came out months ago, pretty cool. I am a sucker for Special Edition DVDs, even if I have the original DVD. Link to post Share on other sites
scottyno 0 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 its awesome, get it. however the only thing is that they are analyzing hands from an actual poker perspective, when the hands were designed to be exciting, for example, talking about pot odds when Mike pushed in with the KK and KGB folds. Its a movie, what fun would it have been if KGB called on the first hand and turned over aq or something, its designed to provide maximum excitement, not poker analysis.However, that being said, I do love the commentary that goes along with it, very good insight from 4 world champions Link to post Share on other sites
puma12 0 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 sounds like it would be interesting, as long as moneymaker doesn't say anything. Link to post Share on other sites
kent2233 0 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 it's definately a cool commentary, I really enjoyed hearing it. Link to post Share on other sites
Vatche 0 Posted November 3, 2005 Author Share Posted November 3, 2005 sounds like it would be interesting, as long as moneymaker doesn't say anything.helmuth dose most of the talking....suprise suprise! Link to post Share on other sites
Dangeramo 0 Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Phil Hellmuth does 90 percent of the talking :-) enjoy Link to post Share on other sites
Vatche 0 Posted November 3, 2005 Author Share Posted November 3, 2005 i think ferguson says about 6 words Link to post Share on other sites
quadaces 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 .. very good insight from 4 world championsYou mean 3 world champions and 1 chumpion! Link to post Share on other sites
Teph 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 .. very good insight from 4 world championsYou mean 3 world champions and 1 chumpion!OOOOOH BURN Link to post Share on other sites
Dead $ 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 The commentary was good, but I was pretty disappointed with their "poker strategy" in the special features. Not that I expected them "reveal all of their secrets," but I thought that it was pretty lame. Link to post Share on other sites
iveyfan30 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 .. very good insight from 4 world championsYou mean 3 world champions and 1 chumpion!i assume you are talking about moneymaker? why do ppl make fun of this guy so much? im sure all of you have won the world series and came within a bad beat of winning a wpt event .right? this is a guy that was once one of us, micro limt playing donkeys that came up to do good things for himself in poker...so you guys can sit on your asses and talk sh it about im all you want, this guy has accomplished something in poker that is amazing and nobody can take that away from him..so you guys stick to 3 tabling 1/2 and keep dreaming about winning the series in 2012<not gonna happen by the way> Link to post Share on other sites
Vatche 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Author Share Posted November 4, 2005 .. very good insight from 4 world championsYou mean 3 world champions and 1 chumpion![b]i assume you are talking about moneymaker? why do ppl make fun of this guy so much? im sure all of you have won the world series and came within a bad beat of winning a wpt event .right? this is a guy that was once one of us, micro limt playing donkeys that came up to do good things for himself in poker...so you guys can sit on your asses and talk sh it about im all you want, this guy has accomplished something in poker that is amazing and nobody can take that away from him..so you guys stick to 3 tabling 1/2 and keep dreaming about winning the series in 2012<not gonna happen by the way> [/bwell said...i aree with you a 100% Link to post Share on other sites
checkraise05 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 agree also... just because your jealous, you don't have to talk trash! Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 .. very good insight from 4 world championsYou mean 3 world champions and 1 chumpion!i assume you are talking about moneymaker? why do ppl make fun of this guy so much? im sure all of you have won the world series and came within a bad beat of winning a wpt event .right? this is a guy that was once one of us, micro limt playing donkeys that came up to do good things for himself in poker...so you guys can sit on your asses and talk sh it about im all you want, this guy has accomplished something in poker that is amazing and nobody can take that away from him..so you guys stick to 3 tabling 1/2 and keep dreaming about winning the series in 2012<not gonna happen by the way>I thought this was about a DVD.... Link to post Share on other sites
Aschlanser 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 sounds like it would be interesting, as long as moneymaker doesn't say anything.Sometimes ya just gotta get it in there with the worst of it.... Link to post Share on other sites
lordchadwick36 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 The way people rip on Moneymaker is the same thing that happens to Greg Raymer. They rip Raymer apart because of his size, but he is the one poker player who dominated the ME last year and made it way deeper in this year's ME than any of us could even dream of.Less hate, more respect! :-) Link to post Share on other sites
ToddFuller 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 i respect raymer alot more than money stealer...............i mean cmon the guy (money stealer) needs to learn how to be marketed right, raymer is more fan friendly, a nicerpersonality for the game as a whole. And it is weel known in the poker world Chris has not done much since his ME win. Just face it money maker is one of the majority ofthe posters here that happened to win a lottery, even when you look back at the hands he played and how he played them in the ME, cmon, are you serious. He played similiar to Cindy Williams in this year's tournament, he just happened to get luckier. When it comes down to it yes chris is a good poker player but whne i stumble in on a 5/10 room on stars and seehim sittin there, it does make me wonder. Link to post Share on other sites
Ganador 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Who the hell is Cindy Williams?OHHHH, you meant tiffany williamson, who played 100x worse than moneymaker. At least get the name right man, please, you are giving buffalo a bad name. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 .. very good insight from 4 world championsYou mean 3 world champions and 1 chumpion!i assume you are talking about moneymaker? why do ppl make fun of this guy so much? im sure all of you have won the world series and came within a bad beat of winning a wpt event .right? this is a guy that was once one of us, micro limt playing donkeys that came up to do good things for himself in poker...so you guys can sit on your asses and talk sh it about im all you want, this guy has accomplished something in poker that is amazing and nobody can take that away from him..so you guys stick to 3 tabling 1/2 and keep dreaming about winning the series in 2012<not gonna happen by the way>lot of haters on this forum.....well said iveyfan. Link to post Share on other sites
Vatche 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Author Share Posted November 4, 2005 i respect raymer alot more than money stealer...............i mean cmon the guy (money stealer) needs to learn how to be marketed right, raymer is more fan friendly, a nicerpersonality for the game as a whole. And it is weel known in the poker world Chris has not done much since his ME win. Just face it money maker is one of the majority ofthe posters here that happened to win a lottery, even when you look back at the hands he played and how he played them in the ME, cmon, are you serious. He played similiar to Cindy Williams in this year's tournament, he just happened to get luckier. When it comes down to it yes chris is a good poker player but whne i stumble in on a 5/10 room on stars and seehim sittin there, it does make me wonder.ur an idiot if ur comparing williamson to moneymaker Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Who the hell is Cindy Williams?OHHHH, you meant tiffany williamson, who played 100x worse than moneymaker. At least get the name right man, please, you are giving buffalo a bad name.Cindy Williams was Shirley on the Laverne & Shirley show. Link to post Share on other sites
crazykid13 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Now this is not a bash in anyways...but I saw him double up off a player...playing 3-6 PLO on PS...won 200 bucks...this was after he was down about 50 dollars...then what does he do...? Like a world class player...he leaves the table and log offs...I guess pro's hit and run too... Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 The way people rip on Moneymaker is the same thing that happens to Greg Raymer. They rip Raymer apart because of his size, but he is the one poker player who dominated the ME last year and made it way deeper in this year's ME than any of us could even dream of.Less hate, more respect! :-)I definitely dreamed of going farther in this year's ME than Raymer actually made. I got 6th!Seriously though, people might make fun of Raymer's size, but those are just fat jokes, with little to no poker relevance. Raymer was not a top-level pro, but he was a winning player at reasonably high limits at Foxwoods, as opposed to Moneymaker who was an online satellite player. I think there's a huge difference there. Link to post Share on other sites
iveyfan30 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 i respect raymer alot more than money stealer...............i mean cmon the guy (money stealer) needs to learn how to be marketed right, raymer is more fan friendly, a nicerpersonality for the game as a whole. And it is weel known in the poker world Chris has not done much since his ME win. Just face it money maker is one of the majority ofthe posters here that happened to win a lottery, even when you look back at the hands he played and how he played them in the ME, cmon, are you serious. He played similiar to Cindy Williams in this year's tournament, he just happened to get luckier. When it comes down to it yes chris is a good poker player but whne i stumble in on a 5/10 room on stars and seehim sittin there, it does make me wonder.cindy willams?? marketed right?? did you not see the wpt tourney that he almost won<came in 2nd> where phil gordon outdrew him on the river? not alot of 5/10 players win the main event then came in 2nd in a wpt....why does it matter what limits he plays ? he admitted to being an internet donk prior to his win? if anything this should motovate you , not make you spew bull sh it you know nothing about...you are an idiot and should drink chilled shots of bleach till the bills win a super bowl....laces out norwood Link to post Share on other sites
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