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Okay, dan's last blog he's all hyped out about the WSOP being a circus and he implies that many other top tier pros feel the same way.If that's the case....I don't understand why someone doesn't create a "new" world series...Here's the thing, back in the day it just started with the very best and 10k was a good chunk of someone's bankroll. It now evolved into this 3 ring circus tourist event which is fine for someone like me. Now 6,700 donkeys are competing for 7.5 mil and it cost them 11 bucks. Still fun but it produces a paper champion because everybody claims its a lottery (I agree).Now all the smaller events are jopke HE events and the "main event" is still only 10k. I know the "raising the M.E. entry fee" has been discussed before but this is slightly different and big named people are already upset.So why not another casino like Wynn or whoever have their own world series (obviously with a different name) and make it like "the old days". The whole purpose of the world series was to determine who was the best poker player in the world...50 1.5k hold'em events and a 10k main event won't determine this at all.I say make a new world series with all the events and all the "smaller" events start out 20k or higher and the main event be something ridiculous like 100k. 100k main event will not have 6,700 internet donkeys playing around because they won a 35 dollar satellite.The only thing that would be missing is the "feel" of the world series at binions....but according to DN that's already gone. So why beat a dead horse? Let Harrah's have their Tourist World Series and let some other casino make a real, new and evolved world series?

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I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A TOURNAMENT LIKE THAT. ONE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE TOP 100 OR SO PLAYERS ALL PUTTING UP AN OBSCENE AMOUNT OF MONEY...AND HOPEFULLY THE WOULD TELEVISE THE WHOLE THNG, LIKE THE WORLD SERIES, NOT JUST THE FINAL TABLE!

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Probably the only people with the clout to create a "new" world series would be the other major poker entity, the WPT, but I seriously doubt that they are interested in anything but televising hold'em. There's been talk of some sort of poker players union, but all of these players have their own agendas and it seems that getting them to all agree on something is a difficult, if not impossible, task.But the World Series will still have that aura about it that makes the pros go back again and again. Unless something radical happens, the WSOP will not die, even if it goes to all holdem, all the time.

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I think it's totally possible to launch a massive buy-in poker event to compete/complement the WSOP. The biggest issue is not who "wants" to do it, but which group "gets" to do it. As various named players have gathered under various banners, each banner would probably like to run the thing, but then players from the other banners wouldn't go.It would probably take a namebrand that's above the current banners to pull it off (or a new one with lots of marketing dollars).I would suggest a format something like...- 64 players. 8 tables of 8. Each table plays down to a winner. That gives you 9 good "shows" on TV (10 if you split up the final table into a 2-parter). - $250K buy in. 1st round table winners get their buy in back, the rest goes out to the final table finishers. - Spots are limited, with first choice going to players based on past play (need to make a formula for that, but that's fairly easy). This would ensure that the best players get the first shot at seats. Maybe hold one spot at each table for a "lucky person with $250K" to represent joe public (part of the appeal of poker on TV for sure).Then, set the whole thing on an island run by an evil genious, and each time someone is eliminated, they are fed to volcano god.OK, not that last part, but you get the idea. Completely doable, and would certainly make for a better TV experience than the WSOP this year (which is terrible).

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I was at the RIo last year and I thought the atmosphere was pretty SHIT.... lots of rude people, tons of stupid sovenirs, the $4 waters, overcrowdingI didn't stay to watch because it wasn't fun.... If I was a pro I wwouldn't be into itPlus the cash games they had going where VERY unroganized..... like very unhelpful peo0ple running it

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how about the World Series of Donkey Poker?The worst 2000 players in the world are invited to play in a televised event and everyone gets to scream at their TVs when they make idiotic plays all the time!

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It would almost have to be an invitational tournament open only to players who have achieved certain goals during the previous year. Possibly only those who have made the final table at certain recognized tournaments. If online players are allowed to qualify at all make it only a certain number from each card room.Cen5

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Probably the only people with the clout to create a "new" world series would be the other major poker entity, the WPT, but I seriously doubt that they are interested in anything but televising hold'em.
For WPT, I think it would be interesting to see some different announcers. Mike and Vince have a selection of about a half-dozen phrases and it's like hearing a broken record.They seem to place a very high priority on making sure that everyone knows the "slang" term for each hand dealt, as if that's a major component of the game. "Oh, Ace King, he's got 'Big Slick' as we say" or "Looks like he has the Gabor sisters, the Hilton sisters, two queens" or "Oh, the Jack - Five, or 'Motown', as we like to call it" - that tired stuff gets old real quick.At least the WSOP has some funny and insightful commentary, as well as different angles on the game itself.
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At least the WSOP has some funny and insightful commentary' date=' as well as different angles on the game itself.[/quote']You must be kidding, half of the WSOP episodes involve Norman chad making idiotic comments about pointless things. The past two Episodes of the main event were nauseating to watch.
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You must be kidding, half of the WSOP episodes involve Norman chad making idiotic comments about pointless things.  The past two Episodes of the main event were nauseating to watch.
No, I am not kidding. Both have the same "format", like any typical announcer team - one guy is play-by-play, and the other guy is color. I will listen to Norman over Vince any day - at least there is some variety to the dialogue.
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how about the World Series of Donkey Poker?The worst 2000 players in the world are invited to play in a televised event and everyone gets to scream at their TVs when they make idiotic plays all the time!
So basically you want to film a Party Poker table :club:
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At least the WSOP has some funny and insightful commentary' date=' as well as different angles on the game itself.[/quote']You must be kidding' date=' half of the WSOP episodes involve Norman chad making idiotic comments about pointless things. The past two Episodes of the main event were nauseating to watch.[/quote']Crazy !! Norman Chad is hilarious. He's so damned quirky, especially his comment on Steve Dannenmen.I don't see Steve Dannenmen on the phone now saying "Hey! I just put all of my chips in the pot against Howard Lederer when I was a 6-1 dog" .....classic
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If you are a poker enthusiast, the play by play from announcers either on ESPN or on the Travel channel has become tiresome. If anyone listened to the live broadcast of the Main Event final table on Real Player this year, I am sure they enjoyed it as much as I did. Having pros come in to do commentary was entertaining and extremely informative. As much as I hate to admit it, Phil Hellmuth was excellent. I would like to see ( or hear) someone do this at most major events. Live audio stream of the final table. Most magazines have someone there to report the relevant hands at any rate. Someone step up and get some live audio going. I am sure there will be pros who enjoy the limelight a la Phil Hellmuth who would enjoy doing the commentating. Daniel if you read this, you spent some time there before heading off to the Wynn, how much interest would there be from some of the players who bust out early to commentate at the final table of the larger buyin events???OEJ

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OEJ, I have to agree. I listened to most of the live stream and have the entire thing downloaded on my PC. Phil was actually good (I should hang myself for admitting that). Yeah, he was his pompous self at times, but he was also being smart about the commentary he was giving. We'll have to find out how accurate some of their reads were come the final table showing on ESPN in a few days.

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i cant stand Hellmuth, but that was one hell of a read on that guys boat against Phil's AK. Either that or he just didnt wanna be embarrased if he lost a race on tv. We'll never know i guess

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"Honey! I was supposed to go broke on that hand! But they forgot one thing - I can dodge bullets, baby!"Shortly thereafter, he goes broke (I think it was the next hand that was televised, wasn't it?). He's a loudmouth, a crybaby, a very poor loser, but the guy does know how to play poker.What I wonder sometimes is - what is he listening to in those headphones?

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