Lil_Hellmuth 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 What is your local poker room's rule regarding showing your cards. For example, I had K 6 (not sure on all the info) but final board read 2 3 4 5 K. A guy lead 25 and I raised him to 75 with my straight. He says "nice buy" and lays a hand down. I flip over my K and my K only and say "I had the best hand." He then starts throwing a fit on how he folded a wheel and he cant believe he folded. Then some guy says "show one show both." And I said "I dont have to." The dealer proceeds to grab my cards and before she mucks them flips over the 6 and shows it to the table. I cmae unglued and immediately called the floor." I had 8 guys yelling at me how I was wrong and that is not the rule. However floor comes over and indeed tells me that I do not have to show both cards unless I was called. "It really didnt matter much as my card was already shown." But I was curious to know what the rules are in your local casino. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Yeah... I think the floor is retarded too.If the hand is folded to you, you can do whatever you want with your cards. The only time you need to "show one show both" is when you want to claim a pot if it's a showdown.That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Link to post Share on other sites
Lil_Hellmuth 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 Yeah... I think the floor is retarded too.If the hand is folded to you, you can do whatever you want with your cards. The only time you need to "show one show both" is when you want to claim a pot if it's a showdown.That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.No the floor stated I was correct. It was the dealer who thought I was wrong and turned over my cards. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 What were you doing in there with K6 anyway? Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Yeah... I think the floor is retarded too.If the hand is folded to you, you can do whatever you want with your cards. The only time you need to "show one show both" is when you want to claim a pot if it's a showdown.That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.No the floor stated I was correct. It was the dealer who thought I was wrong and turned over my cards.Oh ok... good!I misread it then. Sounds fine then, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
PotDragon 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 The saying is, " Show one, show all". It is being missapplied by the dealer in this case as she is of the usual dealer intellect. It pretains to showing one player your cards...show everyone.There is no "Show one, show both" rule. Anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Lil_Hellmuth 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 What were you doing in there with K6 anyway?BB. Plus the flop was checked so I got a free turn card. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 The saying is, " Show one, show all". It is being missapplied by the dealer in this case as she is of the usual dealer intellect. It pretains to showing one player your cards...show everyone.There is no "Show one, show both" rule. Anywhere.Actually... If you showdown, and want to claim the pot, I have been told you need to show both cards to get the pot. Link to post Share on other sites
PotDragon 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Actually... If you showdown, and want to claim the pot, I have been told you need to show both cards to get the pot.Yes...you are right. If the bet has been called and a showdown occurrs, you must show both cards.As this is clearly not the case here ...your point is what ? Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Actually... If you showdown, and want to claim the pot, I have been told you need to show both cards to get the pot.Yes...you are right. If the bet has been called and a showdown occurrs, you must show both cards.As this is clearly not the case here ...your point is what ?My point is that you said there is no such rule of having to show both cards. But there is in the case I just gave you. Link to post Share on other sites
dbrent2 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 If everyone folded to you, you have the option of not showing, showing one, or showing all. If you show one person your card or cards, you must show the rest of the table...In a showdown, you have to flip over both cards...unless you know you are beat, and then you can throw them on the floor and burn them... Link to post Share on other sites
mobius481 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 The saying is, " Show one, show all". It is being missapplied by the dealer in this case as she is of the usual dealer intellect. It pretains to showing one player your cards...show everyone.There is no "Show one, show both" rule. Anywhere.Actually... If you showdown, and want to claim the pot, I have been told you need to show both cards to get the pot.This sums up the rules. "show one show all" always applies but "show one show both" only applies when you are dragging a pot after a showdown. Link to post Share on other sites
Pokerghost2 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 if uncalled of course u can do whatever u want. dealer was dead wrong exposing ur cards. Link to post Share on other sites
murmar 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I've used the phrase "show one, show all" at a home game trying to get the player to show both his hole cards after I folded. I'm an ass, but at least I knew I was wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I hope you didn't tip that "dealer". I also hope that you were able to drag a few more pots and still didn't tip that dealer. I hope you are a regular at this casino, win more than you lose, and you don't tip that dealer for 1 month or until they get a clue.My poker room won't let me pee on the table. They even got upset when I brought my own pee bottle. I called the floor and he said I still have to walk the 25 feet to the bathroom. bah Link to post Share on other sites
sholden 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Look on the bright side, you will save some money by never tipping that dealer ever again... Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I hope you didn't tip that "dealer". I also hope that you were able to drag a few more pots and still didn't tip that dealer. I hope you are a regular at this casino, win more than you lose, and you don't tip that dealer for 1 month or until they get a clue.My poker room won't let me pee on the table. They even got upset when I brought my own pee bottle. I called the floor and he said I still have to walk the 25 feet to the bathroom. bahI once heard a story about a guy playing a Canneberry (spelling?), in Minnesota...He was furious with the dealer for some reason because he got rivered a few times.All of a sudden the dealer feels a wet spray on his legs. The guy pissed on the dealer under the table.Maybe try that one next time.LOLZach Link to post Share on other sites
Al Smooth 0 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Actually, it's a rule that depends on the poker room.-At any WSOP event, if you show one card (even if the hand is folded to you) you are required to show both cards to the table if another player asks (as was the situation in your case). The rule was put into play at this years WSOP to prevent needlig by some of the more...well...rude players. It isn't a TDA rule yet, but according to Linda Johnson might become one in the next year or two.So basically, you were right in your case, but by showing the king you WERE trying to put your opponent on tilt and that's the reason people are pushing for the rule in tournaments, not just WSOP events. Link to post Share on other sites
Lil_Hellmuth 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Author Share Posted October 11, 2005 Actually, it's a rule that depends on the poker room.-At any WSOP event, if you show one card (even if the hand is folded to you) you are required to show both cards to the table if another player asks (as was the situation in your case). The rule was put into play at this years WSOP to prevent needlig by some of the more...well...rude players. It isn't a TDA rule yet, but according to Linda Johnson might become one in the next year or two.So basically, you were right in your case, but by showing the king you WERE trying to put your opponent on tilt and that's the reason people are pushing for the rule in tournaments, not just WSOP events.Interesting! Link to post Share on other sites
PFunk 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I think thats a little dumb...You should be able to show a single card, if thats your choice, when it is folded to you, but I agree that if you show your cards to any one person at the table, you have to show everyone should they request-P. Link to post Share on other sites
KingAustin 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 This was at Prairie Meadows, wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
Razor 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 You were definitely right to be pissed at that dealer. This post reminded me of a play that happened at a B&M I was playing at yesterday. A young guy playing at my table was frequently folding his cards on the river, when it was checked around to him if he had missed his draw, or whatever. In one instance, he was heads up, and his opponent checked the river to him. He exclaimed he "missed", and folded his hand. His opponent also apparently missed, and showed his hand, which happened to be worse than the A high that the young guy had just folded. When he saw this, he tried to retreive his cards (which hadn't hit the muck yet) so he could claim the pot. His opponent put up an argument that his hand was folded and the dealer agreed and gave him the pot. My question is, if your cards don't hit the muck, are they still considered dead. Link to post Share on other sites
Batch 0 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 What is your local poker room's rule regarding showing your cards. For example, I had K 6 (not sure on all the info) but final board read 2 3 4 5 K. A guy lead 25 and I raised him to 75 with my straight. He says "nice buy" and lays a hand down. I flip over my K and my K only and say "I had the best hand." He then starts throwing a fit on how he folded a wheel and he cant believe he folded. Then some guy says "show one show both." And I said "I dont have to." The dealer proceeds to grab my cards and before she mucks them flips over the 6 and shows it to the table. I cmae unglued and immediately called the floor." I had 8 guys yelling at me how I was wrong and that is not the rule. However floor comes over and indeed tells me that I do not have to show both cards unless I was called. "It really didnt matter much as my card was already shown." But I was curious to know what the rules are in your local casino.The one rule I hate is one they have at foxwoods.They may have it elsewhere as well.Betting back and forth throughout a hand.I check the river,the only remaining player bets and I call.He shows a hand that beats mine and then says he wants to see my cards as well.Then the dealer flips them up.I think this is BS.It is not illegal either,the floor told me it is in case someone thinks there is colluding but hell,now I am giving this ****ing idiot information that he shouldn't get.If someone keeps asking to see your cards then call the floor and they will put a stop to this.I have almost seen fights break out twice because of this. Link to post Share on other sites
Lil_Hellmuth 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 What is your local poker room's rule regarding showing your cards. For example, I had K 6 (not sure on all the info) but final board read 2 3 4 5 K. A guy lead 25 and I raised him to 75 with my straight. He says "nice buy" and lays a hand down. I flip over my K and my K only and say "I had the best hand." He then starts throwing a fit on how he folded a wheel and he cant believe he folded. Then some guy says "show one show both." And I said "I dont have to." The dealer proceeds to grab my cards and before she mucks them flips over the 6 and shows it to the table. I cmae unglued and immediately called the floor." I had 8 guys yelling at me how I was wrong and that is not the rule. However floor comes over and indeed tells me that I do not have to show both cards unless I was called. "It really didnt matter much as my card was already shown." But I was curious to know what the rules are in your local casino.The one rule I hate is one they have at foxwoods.They may have it elsewhere as well.Betting back and forth throughout a hand.I check the river,the only remaining player bets and I call.He shows a hand that beats mine and then says he wants to see my cards as well.Then the dealer flips them up.I think this is BS.It is not illegal either,the floor told me it is in case someone thinks there is colluding but hell,now I am giving this censored idiot information that he shouldn't get.If someone keeps asking to see your cards then call the floor and they will put a stop to this.I have almost seen fights break out twice because of this.I disagree with you here. If I call your bet I have the right to see your cards, as does anyone else at the table. I think you gain a lot of information from seeing the person's cards. Link to post Share on other sites
revengeful 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Just from what I've read, the last player to take aggressive action must show first. The calling player may elect to not show. I'm sure all casinos are different but every internet site I've played at this is how the software handles this situation.Oh, and hi, I'm new. Link to post Share on other sites
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